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JackCole
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It must have been a drinkers paradise when the docks were being built 


These are still open for what business remains 

The Abbey Arms E13. Plaistow.  One of Newham's oldest pubsThe Albert House E15. Stratford
The Albion E7. Forest Gate
The Angel Inn E15. Stratford
The Angel E15. Stratford. Broadway
The Army & Navy E13. Plaistow. my last Sunday local
The Barge E16. Custom House. AKA 'The Freemason's Tavern'.
The Bay Tree E15. Stratford.   
The Beckton Arms E16. Canning Town. - scene of a murder before it was rebuilt - in the new one there was a murder and an attempted murder.
The Black Bull E15. Stratford
The Black Lion E13. Plaistow - One of the best known and oldest pubs in Plaistow
The Blakesley Arms E12. Manor Park lesbians pub apparently
The Boleyn Tavern E6 - Home of the Hammers supporters
The Britannia E15. Stratford. 
The British Lion E15. Stratford.
The Builders Arms E15. Stratford
The California Arms E16. Nth Woolwich.  probably closed by now as I knew the new guv'nor too well.
The Carpenter's Arms E15. Stratford
The Cart & Horses E15. Stratford
The Castle E13. Plaistow. 
The Central Hotel E6. East Ham
The Chatsworth Arms E15. Stratford.   .
The Chevy Chase E15. Stratford
The Chobham Arms E15. Stratford.   
Churchill's E16. Silvertown. 
The Coach & Horses E13. Plaistow. 

The **** Hotel E6. East Ham. 
Public bar full of pi$$heads. A bloke in a white coat walked into the public bar  one Saturday afternoon while the guv'nor was in the saloon bar with his mates.
He unplugged the fruit machine, put it on a barrow he borrowed from the greengrocer outside, and walked out with it. Nobody knows who he was Laugh

It may have even been Pumphol [smiley:crazy]

The Connaught Tavern E16. Custom House. Connaught Road.- Formerly a typical docker's pub sited outside the Victoria Dock gates. this listed building was refurbished in 2003 and renamed 'The Fox@Connaught' and is a bar/restaurant.

Just before the docks closed for good it became a pub for the pikey community, whose last mob fight involved the crew of a Dutch cargo ship moored in the docks. 

There were some big fackers on that vessel !!

The funny story about that night...

My mates brother was 'clearing house' with a pool cue when this little bloke named Ronnie caled him :

'Ted, Ted, get this coont off me, he's breaking me ****g ribs.'

This dutch bloke, about 6-4,  had Ronnie (about 5-6) against the wall, and was doing his best to punch his ribs out. Ronnie had his hands on the blokes head to try and take the leverage away from the punches.

Teddy hit the dutch bloke across the back with the pool cue, but he didn't budge. Shocked

Not giving up on his quest to break all Ronnies ribs, he carried on.  So Teddy took the lid from the piano and whacked the dutch bloke round the head with it.

It was a job well done as Teddy dragged the big facker outside the door and left him there. 

When he came back in Ronnie was screaming in pain. Teddy had hit the bloke round the head before Ronnie had time to move his fingers out of the way  LaughLaugh

Ronnie, now nicknamed ' Fingers',  was in the pub the next day with dressings on his hands and had to keep asking others to roll his ciggies for him [:laugh:

The Custom House Hotel E16. Custom House . Originally c. 1852 rebuilt as an hotel/restaurant etc late 1990s to complement the nearby ExCel Centre. AKA The Figurehead.
The Dartmouth Arms E16. Canning Town
The Denmark Arms E6. East Ham. 
The Dew Drop E15. Stratford. 
The Drum E15. Stratford
The Duke Of Cumberland E13. Plaistow - once had the best darts team in the borough The guv'nor was an ex-copper and this was just along the road from Plaistow nick, so we never any trouble in the 5 years I played darts in there


The Duke Of Edinburgh E6. East Ham.   
The Duke Of Edinburgh E13. Plaistow. 
The Duke Of Fife E7. Forest Gate - poofs pub back in the 1970s.
The Duke's Head E6. East Ham. - the last pub before entering Barking
The Durham Arms E16. Canning Town.
The Eagle & Child E7. Forest Gate
The Earl Derby E13. Plaistow where the Stallions bookies manager was generally found - while racing was on
The Earl Of Derby E7. Forest Gate. 
The Earl Of Essex E12. Manor Park
The Earl Of Wakefield E6. East Ham.
The Essex Arms E16. Canning Town - Renamed 'The Peacock' 2005.
The Essex Arms E15. Stratford.
The Forest Glen E7. Forest Gate.
The Foresters E13. Plaistow. 
The Fox & Hounds E7. Forest Gate
The Gallion's Hotel E16. Nth Woolwich. Gallion's Reach.- Built 1881 to serve those boarding liners at Royal Docks. currently under restoration orders as a listed building..
The Greengate E13. 
The Golden Fleece E12. Manor Park. 
The Golden Grove E15. Stratford. 
The Golden Lion E13. Plaistow
The Greengate E13. Plaistow. 
The Green Man E6. East Ham. 
The Greyhound E13. Plaistow - One of the oldest Inns in Newham, formerly the Greyhound And Hare. renamed ? - The Greyhound, renamed 1970s - The Sportsman, reverted back to 'The Greyhound and Hare' 1990s. Rebuilt 1773 and parts, though altered, may still exist.

The Greyhound  E15. Stratford. .
The Ground Rent Tavern E16. Custom House (the last time I passed by, it had been renamed Un Deux Trois)
The Hammers E6. East Ham - the pub seen in the Alf Garnett film - a good half a mile from the ground
The Henley Arms E16. Nth Woolwich
The Holly Tree E7. Forest Gate
The Hudson Bay E7. Forest Gate
It's A Scream E15. Stratford
Jimmy Deans E16. Nth Woolwich
Kate's Place E16. Nth Woolwich- Built 1980s? on site of the old 'Kent Arms'..
The King Arthur E16. Canning Town.- Renamed 'Streetie's' 1990s.
The King Edward VII E15. Stratford. see, 'The King of Prussia'.
The King Of Prussia E15 and in 1881 Census as 'King of Russia'... Renamed 'The King Edward VII. during WWI, for obvious patriotic reasons..
The King's Head E15. Stratford
The Lamb E13. Plaistow. (It was boarded up the last time I saw it)
The Latin Quarter E15. Stratford. see, 'The Two Puddings'.
The Libra Arms E13. Plaistow.
The Live & Let Live E7. Forest Gate. 
The Lord Stanley E13. Plaistow.
The Manby Arms E15. Stratford. 

The Miller's Well E6. East Ham. 419 Barking Rd.-  WETHERSPOONS !!!

Mooro's E15. Stratford. - Named after West Ham's Bobby Moore who had financial interest in the pub
The Northumberland Arms E13. Plaistow renamed to its nickname - The Red House in the 1980s.
The Old Spotted Dog E7. Forest Gate. see 'The Spotted Dog'
The Orange Kipper E16. Canning Town. see 'The Ordnance Arms'
The Ordnance Arms E16. Canning Town - renamed 'The Orange Kipper' for a period -1990s, reverted back to The Ordnance Arms 
The Overdraft Tavern E6. East Ham. High St North.- Opened @ 1997, former Nat West bank branch.
The Pavilion E16. Nth Woolwich. see - 'The Royal Pavilion.
The Perseverance E6. East Ham 
The Pickled Newt E6. East Ham. see - The White Horse' - East Ham.
The Pigeons E15. Stratford. see - The Three Pigeons.
The Pitt's Head E16. Custom House
The Prince Albert E13. Plaistow
The Prince Of Wales E13. Plaistow
The Princess Alexandra E16. Canning Town.
The Princess Alice E7. Forest Gate.   
The Princess Amelia E15. Stratford.
The Princess Of Wales E15. Stratford. 
The Queen Vic E15. Stratford. 
The Queens E13. Plaistow. 
The Queen's Head E15. Stratford.
The Railway Tavern E13. Plaistow. 
The Railway Tavern E16. Silvertown. 
The Railway Tavern E7. Forest Gate.   
The Railway Tavern E15. Stratford. 
The Railway Tavern E16. Custom House.
The Ram Tavern E16. Canning Town. Not enough room to swing a cat in there.
The Rising Sun E7. Forest Gate. 
The Roding Hotel E6. East Ham. 
The Royal Oak E15. Stratford
The Royal Oak E16. Nth Woolwich.   
The Royal Standard E16. North Woolwich. 
The Ruskin Arms E12. Manor Park (closed I think)
Simpson's E7. Forest Gate.
The Spanish Steps  E16. Custom House. 
The Spread Eagle E15. Stratford. 
The Spread Eagle E15. Stratford. *(different pub to above)
The Swan  E13. Plaistow.(always busy - next door to the Jobcentre)
The Three Pigeons E15. Stratford. renamed 'The Pigeons'. 
The Three Rabbits E12. Manor Park (north newhams villains pub)
The Toby Tavern E15. Stratford. 
The Tollgate Tavern E6. Beckton. 
The Traveller's Rest Tavern E7. Forest Gate.
The Trowel & Telegraph E15. Stratford. 
The Two Puddings E15. Stratford. 27 The Broadway.- known as - 'The Puddings' but current name is 'The Latin Quarter'.
Ventura Tavern (Ltd) E6. East Ham. 
The Victoria Cross E12. Manor Park. 
The Victoria Tavern E13. Plaistow. 
The Wagon & Horses E7. Forest Gate. 
Wheeler's E15. Stratford. 
The White Hart E7. Forest Gate. 
The White Horse E6. East Ham. 
The White House E16. Canning Town.
The William The Conquerer E12. Manor Park.
The Windmill Inn E15. Stratford
The Woodman E15. Stratford. 1
Yates's Wine Lodge E15. Stratford. 
The Yorkshire Grey E15. Stratford.

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CLOSED BUT NOT DEMOLISHED YET
The Anchor E16. Canning Town
The Burnell Arms E6. East Ham.
The Canteen E15. Stratford
The Ferndale E6. Beckton. 40 Cyprus Place
The Green Man E15. Stratford
The Hallsville Tavern E16. Canning Town. 57 Hallsville Rd
The Graving Dock Tavern E16. Silvertown
The New Gog E16. Custom House. 38 Freemasons Rd. 
The Spotted Dog E7. Forest Gate. Upton Lane.- Old Inn, rumoured to have originally been Henry VIII's hunting dog kennels. 
The Three Crowns E16. North Woolwich. Pier Road -  Poofs pub
The British Flag E16. Canning Town

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TURNED INTO FLATS
The Marquis Of Salisbury E13. Plaistow
The Trossachs E13. Plaistow.  Also known as Valentinos, Raffles and  The Memory Lane.
The Earl Of Beaconsfield E13. Plaistow. 
The Flying Scud E16. Canning Town.
The Paul's Head E16. Custom House. Billy Morgan had this pub for yonks but it's closed down now.
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OTHER USES
The Royal Oak E16. Canning Town. Closed June 2001- The boxing gym where Terry Lawless trained was above it. It's a Bairstow and Eves estate agents now.

The Shakespeare's Head E16. Canning Town - offices
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ALL THESE HAVE BEEN DEMOLISHED
SOME AS FAR BACK AS THE MID-19TH CENTURY


The Adam And Eve E15. Stratford
The Adam And Eve E16. Canning Town
The American Flag E16. Canning Town
The Albert Victoria E16. Canning Town
The Albion E6. East Ham
The Albion E15. Stratford.
The Balmoral Castle E16. Canning Town.
The Bell & Anchor E16. Canning Town
The Bird in Hand E15. Stratford
The Black Lion E6. East Ham
The Blue Boar E15. Stratford
The Boilermaker's Arms E16. Canning Town
The Brassey Arms E16. Canning Town
The Bricklayer's Arms E16. Canning Town
The Bridge House Hotel E16. Canning Town
The Britannia E13. Plaistow
The Britannia E16. Canning Town
The Caledonian Tavern E16. Canning Town
The Camden Arms E7. Forest Gate
The British Volunteer E16. Canning Town
The Engineer's Arms E15. Stratford
The Castle E15. Stratford. 
The Coronet E15. Stratford. 
The Dock House Tavern E16. Canning Town.
The Dog And Gun E16. Canning Town. 
The Dog's Head E13. Plaistow
The Dorset Arms E15. Stratford.
The Central Hotel E16. Canning Town. 
The Chandelier E16. Canning Town.  - The last watering hole of Custom House pikeys when the Connaught became a restaurant
The City Arms E16. Canning Town.
The Clarendon Hotel E16. Canning Town. 
The Coach & Horses E15. Stratford. 
The Coach & Horses E12. Manor Park. 
The Dug-Out E16. Canning Town. see - 'The Tidal Basin Tavern'.
The Duke Of Cambridge E16. Canning Town.   
The Duke Of Clarence E16. Canning Town. 
The Duke Of Connaught E16. Canning Town. 
The Duke Of Edinburgh E16. Canning Town.
The Excavators Arms E16. Canning Town. 
The Falmouth Arms E15. Stratford. 
The Fox & Hounds E15. Stratford. 
The Fireman's Arms E16. Canning Town. 
The Forester's Arms E16. Canning Town.   
The Freemasons' Hotel E15. Stratford. 
The Freemasons' Tavern E16. Custom House. 
The George E15. Stratford. 
The George Canning E16. Canning Town. 
The Gibraltar Tavern E16. Canning Town. 
The Golden Horse E15. Stratford. 
The Golfer E6. Beckton. Woolwich Manor Way.- 4 facking portacabins  built on the golf driving range - the guv'nor was a smackhead. [smiley:crazy]
The Grant E16. Canning Town. 
The Halfway House Inn Plaistow 
The Commercial Hotel E15. Stratford. 
The Greengate E15. Stratford. 
The Harrow Inn E15. Stratford. Demolished
The Hit or Miss E16. Canning Town. 
The Hop Pole E13. Plaistow. Demolished
The Huntingdon Arms E16. Canning Town. 
The Ireland Arms E13. Plaistow.
The Joiner's Arms E15. Stratford. 
The Jubilee Tavern E16. Silvertown. 
The King Harry E6. East Ham. 
The King's Head E15. Stratford. 
The Lilliput Arms E16. Canning Town.
The Lion Tavern E15. Stratford. 
The Lion and Lamb E15. Stratford. 
The Liverpool Arms E16. Canning Town. 
The Lord Gough E15. Stratford. ? 
The Lord Henniker E15. Stratford.   
The Lord Napier E15. Stratford.   
The Lord Napier E16. Canning Town. 
The Lord Nelson E13. Plaistow. 
The Lord Nelson E16. Canning Town. 
The Lord Raglan E13. Plaistow. 
The Manor Tavern E12. Manor Park.   
The Manor House E12. Manor Park. 
The Marine Hotel E16. Canning Town. 
The Marsh Gate E15. Stratford. 
The Mechanic's Arms E16. Canning Town. 
The Nottingham Arms E16. Custom House.(south newham villains pub)
The Odessa Arms E7. Forest Gate. 
Old Friends E15. Stratford. 
The Old Ship E16. Canning Town. 
The Peacock E16. Canning Town. 
The Peacock E16. Custom House. 
The Pig and Whistle E15. Stratford.  ...
The Parliament House E7. Forest Gate. 
The Plough E7. Forest Gate? 
The Prince Albert Victor E16. Canning Town. 
The Prince Alfred E16. Canning Town. 
The Prince Arthur E16. Canning Town.
The Prince Of Wales E16. Custom House - my grandads local before my nan died
The Princess Alice E16. 
The Railway Hotel E16. Silvertown. 
The Railway Tavern E15. Stratford. 
The Rathbone Arms E16. Canning Town. 
The Red Lion E13. Plaistow. 
The Red Lion E16. Canning Town. 
The Red Lion E6. East Ham. 
The Red Tape Tavern E16. Canning Town. 
The Rising Sun E13. Plaistow. 
The Rising Sun E15. Stratford. D
The Robert Stevenson E16. Canning Town.
The Robin Hood and Little John E16. Canning Town
The Rose E15. Stratford. 
The Rose And Crown E16. Canning Town. 
The Rose Of Denmark E16. Canning Town.
The Royal Albert E16. Canning Town.
The Royal Albert E16. Silvertown. 
The Royal Arms E16. Silvertown. Destroyed in an air raid in  1940.
The Royal George E16. Canning Town.
The Royal E16. Nth Woolwich. 
The Royal (Hotel) E15. Stratford. 
The Royal Oak E15. Stratford. 
The Royal Pavilion E16. North Woolwich. 
The Royal Sovereign E16. Canning Town. 
The Salway Arms E15. Stratford. Demolished - Information was that "The Salway Arms was at 31 Angel Lane on the east side at the junction with Pleasant Row. This was all demolished to make way for the hideous Stratford Centre ca. 1970."
The Ship E13. Plaistow. 
The Ship E16. Canning Town. 
The Shipwright's Arms E16. Canning Town. 
The Shipwright & Moulders Arms E16. Canning Town.
The Sidney Arms E16. Canning Town. 
The Sir Colin Campbell E15. Stratford. 
The Sir John Lawrence E16. Canning Town.   
The Sportsman E16. Canning Town.
The Steam Hammer E16. Custom House. 
The Steam Ship E15. Stratford. 
The Sultan E13. Plaistow. Demolished 2000s. The best pub in Plaistow in its day.
The Telegraph E15. Stratford.
The Swan Hotel E15. Stratford.
The Spotted Cow E16. Canning Town. 
The Tidal Basin Tavern E16. Canning Town.
The Tower Hamlets Arms E7. Forest Gate (not in facking Tower Hamlets)
The Two Brewers E15. Stratford.
The Town Of Ayr E16. Canning Town.
The Trafalgar E16. Canning Town. 
The Unicorn E15. Stratford. 
The Upton Manor Tavern E13. Plaistow. D
The Victoria Dock Tavern E16. Canning Town. North Woolwich Road / Victoria Dock Rd. known as 'The Chandelier' from 1870 onwards 
The Victory E16. Canning Town. 
The Vincent E16. Canning Town. 
The Waddington Arms E15. Stratford. D
The Walmer Castle E16. Canning Town. 
The Wellington E16. Canning Town. 
West Ham Brewery E7. Forest Gate (not a pub - but a related item)
The White Swan E15. Stratford.

The Windsor Castle E16. Canning Town. 
Looked after a pub in west London after the ex-manager of the Windsor Castle had been there, but was sacked.
Dirty coont rang up £50 on the till and took that part of the roll out before we got there,  that caused a row that night as closing time


The Woodstock Arms E16. Canning Town. 
The Winning Horse E16. Canning Town. 
The Yorkshire Grey E16. Canning Town. 
The Yorkshire Grey E15. Stratford. 

Fancy gong on  pub crawl on a Friday night, you wouldn't get home for a month Laugh

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Report Make my hay September 5, 2011 2:29 PM BST
Small potatoes, at one time Norwich had as many as 600 public houses and even as late at 1900 there were some 561.
Report BonVivvy September 5, 2011 2:46 PM BST
Are there still that many boozers open around that area Winkle? in Manchester and it's suburbs i'd conservativly estimate that about 70% of all the old boozers are now closed often 90%+ in some areas and not just in immigrant areas.

Used to drink nr London Bridge (sarf so not your patch)The Grapes was a decent boozer as was the Shipwrights and also in southwark,The George etc and few v old boozers but went back there few months back and mainly empty or closed.Kings head nr borough market was ok too,give or take the odd confused tiddly wink tourist asking for a "lard of British oldie ale beer"

The London brisge area has changed that much on the front though(literally opposite the south bank side tower bridge)went into what we thought was a proper old town boozer called somat like "the mug arms" (good betfair name!) yet it was all mockerney,olde wordle fake job full of benders and people sipping chablis..i ask ya finks aint what they used to be!
Report JackCole September 5, 2011 3:11 PM BST
Somebody posted a photo of the Mug Tavern on here the other day. I think it was under London Bridge.

The top half of my post is the pubs that were still open 6 years ago when I moved out. 

The closure of the docks killed a lot off and the influx of non-drinkimg asians has killed off a lot more.

Pubs with dart teams tend to do better than others, if the dart leagues still exists in Newham. I played on Wednesdays on a standard board and Thursday on a 5 board. 

At least 6 of the pubs I played in from 1987 to 1996 are no longer trading. A lot of the team players were in their late 30s and older. So, by 2007, the young'uns were in their 50s, and there were no youngsters taking any interest in darts, it was all pool with them.

A lot of players were self employed, and if business died off they never came out to play their matches. I stopped playing the 5 board 3 years before I stopped playing the standard board as I found it boring.

Some doughnuts on here will tell you how wonderful Newham is (like James Beckton) but they drink in pubs in places like Camden.
Report BonVivvy September 5, 2011 3:24 PM BST
That's it "The Mug Tavern" yeah it's right under the actual bridge,the bit nr there is actually full of some serious old fascinating titbits of old London.Never fairls to amaze me that bog eyed tourists wander up and down Tower Bridge seemignly oblivious of the Tower of London only yards from their feckin noses! Then again on the exact opposite side of the rd to Londons ancient site is a huge advertising hoarding saying (in graffiti)"you are entering Sharia law"!! Cry I wonder if Tower Hamlets has any boozers left at all?
Report JackCole September 5, 2011 3:34 PM BST
There are more muzzies in Newham than in Tower Hamlets.

23% of the population in 2002, (2nd highest concentration of muzzies in the UK) along with 36 mosques.

Did you know that mosques don't pay council tax, I don't know if churches do.
Report HH Sultan Vinegar September 5, 2011 3:46 PM BST
The Sultan E13. Plaistow. Demolished 2000s. The best pub in Plaistow in its day.

Didn't that used to be run by Joe Brown's old man?
Report HH Sultan Vinegar September 5, 2011 3:58 PM BST
My gf's aunty lives in Corporation Street in Stratford and we'll probably stay there for a few days when the Olympics are there.
This Mr W's Handy Pub Guide should be quite helpful in finding a decent boozer while I'm there. [:(]
Report lapsy pa September 5, 2011 4:32 PM BST
JackCole,thats a true story in regard the fruit machine in the C0ck,East ham high street,was in around 1989. In there the day it happened with two Scots(Billy and John)Know who took the machine for the life of me can,t remember his name but his face is clear.
Suppose i was a bit of a pis$head back then.
Report JackCole September 5, 2011 4:46 PM BST
Yes HRH it was run by Joes dad.
Report JackCole September 5, 2011 4:48 PM BST
One of the Scots was probably Johnny Burns, who was part of the furniture in the C0ck.
Report Munchen_fadge_back September 5, 2011 4:50 PM BST
Makes a change of been in the C0ck, instead of the c0ck been in you.
Report JackCole September 5, 2011 4:56 PM BST
Look everybody - the forum troll has arrrived

The thick coont has been told for a month that he's blocked, and that I CAN'T READ WHAT HE POSTS, but he posts nonetheless

1.01 it's a moronic remark
Report Munchen_fadge_back September 5, 2011 5:01 PM BST
Can you believe this guy is 59 years old, heart attack victim soon.
Report lapsy pa September 5, 2011 5:03 PM BST
No it wasn,t Burns,billy or billy jock also frequented the alice and very well known. Peoples surnames weren,t usually mentioned.
Good thread.
Report JackCole September 5, 2011 11:13 PM BST
and STILL the troll posts, what a mug.
Report JackCole September 6, 2011 12:15 AM BST
I only went in the Alice at Forest Gate once, it was many many years ago. They used to have a card school upstairs on Friday nights. I drove a mate there and stayed for about half an hour until I got bored sh1tless.
Report SqueezeFirmly July 9, 2013 2:53 AM BST
Sparky, here you go, pick a Newham pub.
Report HH Sultan Vinegar December 22, 2015 12:07 PM GMT
slags
Report rob_dylan December 22, 2015 12:19 PM GMT
alun reminds me of BonVivvy.
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