100 billion Suns in 100 billion galaxies, I think it's statistically very likely there is another planet out there with intelligent life forms on it and even more likely that primitive life is abundant in the Universe.

I would also reckon it is 50/50 that there is microbial life elsewhere in our own Solar System, signs are looking good for Moons of Jupiter, Saturn and even Mars. Of course the bashers will squirm but they would move the goalposts again to feed their delusions.

Is this a God conspiracy thread.

DNA exists because it exists, just like a piece of rock, just like all the stars in all the galaxies, it's only a mixture of four different bases that can be easily formed by passing an electrical current in a chemical "soup". It's not alchemy, and its not a deity, it's just pure fluke that these particular four bases form lovely ester hydrogen bonds.

As for where everything came from, I'm a chemist not a physicst but I do know there was a point singularity that had virtually infinite density and energy, with special relativity involved. You might want to read up on it, I don't life is too short.

Science >>>>>>> God

it's only a mixture of four different bases that can be easily formed by passing an electrical current in a chemical "soup". It's not alchemy

by the way merlin if its that simple then it will exist all thru the cosmos.

and if its that simple how come they cannot create it in a lab.

It must be streaming with life out there, that is my guess. Unless we are special in the eyes of God. Some believe that what we perceive is just an illusion created by our minds through our consciousnssness. For example the colour red does not exist. It is just the way we perceive it due to to the energy given out by the vibrations format. So maybe we have created each other and everything thing else only through perception of concousness through energy vibrations. After death i hope this becomes clear. hth

I don't hold with this many worlds idea. I think the universe behaves more like a flowing river, taking the path of least resistance.

I think that we could be alone in the universe, or there could be many planets or places that hold intelligent life. It all depends on the probability that a particular point in space contains (intelligent) life.

I would define intelligence as an organism capable of thought processes outside of it's needs for survival.

I didn't come from nothing, it came from a virtually infinite mass of everything, according to some theorists it may well contract back to that singularity.

All a bit heavy for chit chat this

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I didn't come from nothing, it came from a virtually infinite mass of everything, according to some theorists it may well contract back to that singularity.


boll0cks to this merlin, i am off back to the ketchup on fish and chips thread.

There is no scientific evidence that God does not exist, if there is then please present it now.

Yeah, lets prove a negative, noble prize for anyone, there


Exactly you can't prove a negative. it has to be taken on faith. I don't have enough faith to be a atheist.

lordy lordy

Is this a God conspiracy thread.

DNA exists because it exists, just like a piece of rock, just like all the stars in all the galaxies, it's only a mixture of four different bases that can be easily formed by passing an electrical current in a chemical "soup".

So why haven't they made it then if its easy?


It's not alchemy, and its not a deity, it's just pure fluke that these particular four bases form lovely ester hydrogen bonds.


So you say.Prove it? You seem to believe in the goddess of Chance.

As for where everything came from, I'm a chemist not a physicst but I do know there was a point singularity that had virtually infinite density and energy, with special relativity involved. You might want to read up on it, I don't life is too short.

Science >>>>>>> God

It’s possible that we are on our own, if the Many-Worlds quantum-mechanical description of the universe is correct. All possible outcomes must co-exist;

if there are infinite multiple universes then anything that can happen will happen ,so one of these multiple universes will have God in it.Again proving the atheists wrong.


including at least one in which by chance other intelligent life failed to evolve. If that’s the case, then it is as likely to be this universe as any of the alternatives that has just us in it

I wonder how many intelligent races have come and gone?  We could be the last one, the universal order may have given up on intelligence as a 'bad idea' and we may vanish not ever knowing we were the last throw of the dice for self conciousness.

I didn't come from nothing, it came from a virtually infinite mass of everything, according to some theorists it may well contract back to that singularity


This begs the question though where did this virtually infinite mass of everything come from?science says that time had a beginning, so it can't have always existed.As for it contracting back to that singularity,
this goes against the scientific evidence .the universe is speeding up, which is the opposite of the big crunch.

DNA exists because it exists, just like a piece of rock, just like all the stars in all the galaxies, it's only a mixture of four different bases that can be easily formed by passing an electrical current in a chemical "soup". It's not alchemy, and its not a deity, it's just pure fluke that these particular four bases form lovely ester hydrogen bonds.


This just isnt true at all.

As pointed out, we cannot create the very simplist form of life in any lab with any electrical current, we cannot even create the very simplist dna in any lab. As i pointed out scientists have no explanation. And as for electrical energy from rocks, well never heard that 1.

Another major problem is that there seems to be just 1 basic strand of DNA in which all life have and obv more complex life then form more complex DNA. If DNA randomly came into being then there should be more than 1 basic strand of DNA. This is another problem to overcome.

DNA has been described as a manual a set of instructions on how life forms and develops, how can a so called random event have a programming set of instructions, which is another major issue that needs addressing.


This is one of the reasons that Anthony Flow a famous atheist recently changed his mind and is now a deist.The evidence of DNA changed his mind.There are a few honest atheist that will follow the evidence where ever it goes.

if peddlers cross wins the ch, i will offer up a prayer of thanks to whoever may or may not be in charge of the primordial? soup.

personally even

want me to find you some UV photos of critters in our atmosphere angel.

they are big buggers.

and invisible to the naked eye.

waiting for quarantine ...

RNA disassembled quickly . Dna is reliant on five attributes being present at same time. Extremely unlikely. Designed. Micro machiNES build DNA. Biological subset. Repairs DNA. Information storage. Requires a sender and receiver. Watched many youtube vids on this. The bring up Urey expt  from fifties? Seventy yrs ago. Amino acIDs manufactured in flasks with gases never present on earth. Electricity generating acids. But electricity also destroys in long run. If it was correct. More scientists would have built on it. It's bad sscience. Many PhD scientists now think evolution is bunk. We adapt. Dogs change into poodles. Men are tiny and huge. But we don't grow wings.  Many species appear abruptly in the fossil record. No intermediate stages? Bats are very complicated. Sonar. Bone chambers in head precise. Hollow structures. Membranes. Blood and heart rate sky high. Totally complex. Just appears. Many animals same thing. Overy eight million types or species at low end possibly a billion , only 1.7 million described. University of Hawaii.  We can fossilized an object in a few yrs. Tools and even jeans left by miners have been fossilized. Carbon dating is recent. A seventies procedures. When dating a sample you fill in a form. They ask you how old do you think your sample is? Loaded question? You tell me. Point of carbon dating. Helium lasts a short time? Why is helium on earth. Salinity of oceans. Moon proximity. Hundreds of indications of earth being younger.  What scientist is right? What flavour of ice cream do you prefer?  They discover reality . The dnot make it.  Einstein over turned them all. It repeats. What we believed is overturned eventually. Therefore science is a place holder for the truth. Rolf Harris used to draw on screen. Can you tell what it is yet?? This is science . Filling in blank spaces . They know s little about a little.