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no brobie its about cheap oil, ever since man stoo on 2 feet he has traded for his needs.
britain does not want to trade and enrich other nations, so working class lads die as a cost of theiving what britian wants, and each and everyone of us is complicit in the theft and murder by OUR silence. thats why the english are despised by so many. |
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Of course we will be disliked. If we act like a bunch of waiters and everyone loves us do you think our standard of living will be maintained?
Shall we become a hippydom? |
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man has traded when there is plenty. tend to get a bit tetchy when there's a worry about supply
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manxy without the English doing their job around the world the IOM would be similar to Sudan in living standards, in fact, it would not exist.
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so what do you think gives you the god given right to kill thousands of foriegners in their own lands so as to maintain your standard of living, you had north sea oil and gas, and you squandered it.
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survival of the fittest manxy. we would be dishonouring our ancestors who gave their lives for our standard and way of living if we withered and died
do you think a starving lion looks at a gazelle a wonders if he has a right to eat it? |
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don't believe in god btw
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Brodie Joined: 20 Oct 08
Replies: 10008 21 Feb 11 23:48 survival of the fittest manxy. we would be dishonouring our ancestors who gave their lives for our standard and way of living if we withered and died do you think a starving lion looks at a gazelle a wonders if he has a right to eat it? look in the mirror and you will be looking at the very reason the english are despised most of the world over. |
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just for you muttley, some uneducated Welsh inbreds:
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do you feel no allegiance to you ancestors?
what about the lion q? you are the angriest bloke on this forum but you seem to be espousing calm, man. ww3 starts tomorrow and you'll be begging the country you hate to let you in. hatred is the problem of the hater btw. ![]() |
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Hate poisons the mind
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i like the welsh. my dad's best mate was called taffy. really nice fella,used to pop round before they went out darting.
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Josie D'Arby ......listed twice.
has to be the worst list ever to try and make a point. |
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actually ,i'll rephrase that. i liked the welsh bloke who came round our house.
to see him as the embodiment of all Welshmen is of course, moronic |
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if you say so
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you disagree?
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No Brodie mate, I like the Welsh, in fact I like everybody. Good and bad in all nations.
the reply was to brngtwt who posted before u. |
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ditto, well said.
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That's a hell of a list on first viewing, but for every Tommy Cooper there's a Max Boyce, and every Sir Anthony Hopkins there's a Ruth Madoc, every Manic Street Preachers there's a Shaking Stevens and a pair of Scott-Lees, so its not as impressive as it first appears
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I agree too mightymac,there are only two types of people.
people who are alright and people that aren't. but lets face it that list was pretty sparse in terms of what you were trying to achieve. |
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Harry, it did come from Wiki mate, what u expect?
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Youve missed out Lewis Jones the record breaking Welsh Rugby League player, and Gorkys Zygotic Mynci one of the best Welsh bands, thats really poor form mac, and as for Imogen Thomas but no Dylan Thomas, oh dear.
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This is why
An English man was living in Wales and he used to come back to england and go out with his friends.When his friends asked him how was he liking wales he said 'i just don't like the Welsh people.' His friends advised him to try talking some of the lingo and learn a bit of welsh here and there and he might enjoy the people more.He thought ok i will give it a go. He returned back to Wales and on his way back his car broke down.A Welsh man stopped to help him and said 'Oh boyo can i give you a hand there' The English guy said 'get lost you Welsh git ' ![]() ![]() ![]() |
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Also the listed the one dimensional Tom Jones.....
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RACIST THREAD
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Mighty Mac does have a point, I had never realised there were so many top class Welsh men and ladies.
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Jealousy.
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Its a dull part of the UK, mostly impoverished, whose mainly miserable/stroppy inhabitants think they have been plundered by the English.
The fact that the comprehensive list of famous(?) Welsh people starts wityh Keith Allen says a lot. Of course if you take any population of 3 million and look for ANYONE who's done something over the last 1000 years you'll come up with a list like that. I suspect the list for Scotland would be proportionately longer, and for England about 50 times longer. That said, no-one likes the English much either, and who can blame them, but this doesn't make Wales or the Welsh any nicer. There seems to be a disproportionate level of Welsh people to non-Welsh on the Jeremy Kyle show too, from what I've seen. I'd only ever been to Wales once (about 20 years ago - Gower peninsula, where others [Welsh people] on the same caravan/camping site wouldn't even pass the time of day), until I moved to the north. I've had a few trips into north Wales in the last few years. Snowdon - Not very pretty at all for a mountain. The tea shops in the area seem to close bang on time and are staffed by the ubiquitous miserable gits. Caenarfon (I think - Carnarvon anyway) A dump of the higest order. We were shocked when we visited here. Rhyl - Blackpool without anything. The road system for travelling throughout Wales is crap, which is just as well as there aren't too many places worth seeing. |
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Personally always found the welsh hated each other far far more than they hated the English.
Cardiff have a hatred of Swansea and both have a real hatred of North Wales who in turn seem to hate the English and are obsessed with speaking welsh.The welsh also seem to hate the irish. Oddly i've always found Germans very friendly indeed towards the english,they dont seemt o retain the "comedy" hatred that we seem to retain for them. Can't say i've found the jocks over friendly to the english though.Theyre fine sober in the daytime but after a few gallons they seem to generally spit out the word english.Depends which town you're in of course. |
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Went to watch Cardiff v Colchester with a welsh mate once.
They fkin hated the English. What a rabble though, wouldn't use 'em as fkin doormats. glad they were all on the train back and not staying here. Had a minutes silence for the queen mum and they were singing "you can stick your queen mum up your @rse" all the way through. Was kind of funny looking back, but fk me just what a pile of dogsh1t people they were. The announcer stopped it short with a partridgesque "Unbelievable" |
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By: BonVivvy
10:57 Personally always found the welsh hated each other far far more than they hated the English. Cardiff have a hatred of Swansea and both have a real hatred of North Wales who in turn seem to hate the English and are obsessed with speaking welsh.The welsh also seem to hate the irish. True, however you could take out cardiff, swansea, irish and replace with manchester, liverpool (or any two english cities) and scotland and you easily sum up the english. Oddly i've always found Germans very friendly indeed towards the english,they dont seemt o retain the "comedy" hatred that we seem to retain for them. exceptionally good natured and havent met one I didnt like fully agree. well done bon vivvy, by far the decent post in a pretty rubbish, generic, full of cod philosy that passes for a chit chat thread these days. |
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I love the Welsh, especeially the black and asian ones.
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I've found germans ok, as europeans go. A little too pleased with themselves, but friendly enough.
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I love Germans, especially the black and asian ones.
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I am English and my best friend is Welsh and he hates me. Cant fault him.
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Never mind the Welsh Assembly, give Wales total independence with no financial subsidies. No one else to blame then if they don't live happily ever after.
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