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By:
pumphol.
When: 12 Jan 11 18:36
Bonvivvy

Please do wait to be arrested, a lower sentence guaranteed if you hand yourself in to the police station.
By:
GT
When: 12 Jan 11 22:09
Shocked
By:
Sunset Cristo
When: 13 Jan 11 00:11
Bonvivvy killed another thread.
By:
mr winkle
When: 13 Jan 11 00:46
BonVivvy  12 Jan 11 18:20 
Surely the police could do worse than arresting 50% of the cranks,creeps and utter crackpots who are on this this thread? while it might not lead them directly to this murder surely many other crimes would be solved if this lot came under questioning....


be nobody left except me and my 27 aliases.
By:
mr winkle
When: 13 Jan 11 00:46
BonVivvy  12 Jan 11 18:20 
Surely the police could do worse than arresting 50% of the cranks,creeps and utter crackpots who are on this this thread? while it might not lead them directly to this murder surely many other crimes would be solved if this lot came under questioning....


be nobody left except me and my 27 aliases.
By:
Sunset Cristo
When: 13 Jan 11 00:50
Thats it keep repeating the same thing, that will keep the thread going.Laugh
By:
mr winkle
When: 13 Jan 11 00:56
BonVivvy  12 Jan 11 18:20
Surely the police could do worse than arresting 50% of the cranks,creeps and utter crackpots who are on this this thread? while it might not lead them directly to this murder surely many other crimes would be solved if this lot came under questioning....


be nobody left except me and my 27 aliases.
By:
newcastle1969
When: 13 Jan 11 17:33
no updates or new thought's?
By:
Easter 1916
When: 13 Jan 11 17:37
IW WAS MR WINKLE.
By:
Easter 1916
When: 13 Jan 11 17:38
I fecked that up!
By:
in hell
When: 13 Jan 11 17:52
THE best friend of Joanna Yeates last night ruled out her murderer being a secret lover - because she would never cheat on her boyfriend.

Rebecca Scott battled her grief to slam cruel gossip, insisting Jo was "besotted" with Greg Reardon.

Rebecca was the last person to speak to Jo, in a phone call, before she vanished.

The 25-year-old Bristol landscape architect's body was found three miles from her flat.

Happy memories ... Jo, left, and Rebecca chat in shadow of Clifton Suspension Bridge
Happy memories ... Jo, left, and Rebecca chat in
the shadow of the Clifton Suspension Bridge in Bristol

Rebecca, 25, said Greg, 27, was a "lovely guy" who was also besotted. She added: "Anyone close to her could see how happy they were."

She spoke hours after The Sun revealed police had found DNA in saliva on Jo's body.
By:
1st time poster
When: 13 Jan 11 18:06
did reporters ask her what she thought of jo texting a male friend for a drink while her boyfriend was only an hour up the road on his way to a weekend away,dont think this was the luvy dovey relationship people would have us believe
By:
A_T
When: 13 Jan 11 19:25
When BF got home to find Jo gone surely phoning her was the first thing he'd do - but this action does not form any part of the story we've been given. In any case perhaps the phone was off or battery flat? Nope - definitely not because Rebecca Scott says after she heard from police she phoned Jo's phone and Greg answered!
By:
naydam
When: 13 Jan 11 19:45
I thought the phone was 'at home'. She didn't have it with her. He could see that.
By:
Clouseau
When: 13 Jan 11 20:02
Is this supposed to be some sort of "exclusive" from The Sun because I can't see any words attributed to Rebecca Scott that she didn't make in her video statement. I don't recall her "slamming" anything. It's just the Sun putting nuances where there aren't any and twisting things around.

Oh and as for the phone is it beyongd the realms of possibility that the phone battery was dead when BF got back and he, or Plod, put it on charge?

How else would the police find out who the last phone calls were too?
By:
Ramruma
When: 13 Jan 11 20:38
^^ Police would ask her provider for call details, and where the phone had been.

And it is quite possible for women to text and even meet male friends without shagging.

Earlier threads were full of puzzlement at how anyone could leave a pub before chucking out time. Now people seem to want her in a burka.
By:
sparkmaster.
When: 13 Jan 11 20:41
Don't forget the astonishment that someone would buy only two small bottles of cider.
By:
Clouseau
When: 13 Jan 11 20:43
"^^ Police would ask her provider for call details, and where the phone had been."

They wouldn't do that when she had only just been reported missing! Far easier to plug phone in and turn it on!
By:
brendanuk1
When: 13 Jan 11 20:44
They would do it for missing people is common practice
By:
Clouseau
When: 13 Jan 11 20:57
ffs I was replying to someone who said that the phone couldn't have been dead because when Rebecca Scott rang it BF answered..... i.e. that the phone could have been put on charge between him arriving back and reporting Joanna missing and Rebecca calling.

I am sure it is standard to check with phone companies what the call records are of missing people but as it was only a matter of hours after Jo had been reported missing and Plod turning up at the flat I bet they got the last call she made from the phone itself.

Would take a while until they started to consider it a s serious that they would get around to contacting phone companies etc.
By:
squares
When: 14 Jan 11 09:54
Joanna Yeates's body could have been stashed somewhere inside her own house before disposing of it.

Police have requisitioned blueprints for the Victorian house in Clifton, Bristol, to search for potential areas where the landscape architects body could have been stored.

'The documents have been seized and are part of the investigation,' said a spokesman for Bristol City Council.

Joanna's flat was in the basement of the house, which was split into smaller properties in 1988.

A staircase links the flats but it is understood the basement flat was self-contained with only one way in or out.

There are two large sheds in the garden, which also could have been used by the killer.

Meanwhile, detectives have ruled out a mass DNA trawl of the city where she lived, it emerged yesterday.

The decision will come as a blow to many who supported a call for ­widespread testing across Bristol in the quest to match a DNA sample from saliva found on the landscape architect’s dead body.

The move will also be seen as controversial – especially as the Daily Mail understands that the sample has already been run through the national DNA database without finding a match.
By:
Golfboy
When: 14 Jan 11 09:55
Daily Mirror 14/1/11

Former Scotland Yard detective chief inspector Peter Kirkham - also a SIO in murder investigations - conducts his own review of the hunt and the key areas police need to check.


The investigation can get tunnel vision and change from a search for the truth - which it should be - into an exercise in gathering evidence to convict a particular person.
Where you have one suspect this is a danger. You can miss valid alternatives.

The above reminded me of the Jill Dando murder inquiry.
By:
squares
When: 14 Jan 11 09:56
Among those who have already voiced support for mass testing among male residents of the affluent area of Clifton and beyond are a local MP, and Miss Yeates’s best friend, as well as residents who live close to the street where the ­victim lived with her boyfriend.

Instead, the investigation is understood to be focusing its attention on testing people known to Miss Yeates, 25, whose body was found dumped beside a country lane on Christmas Day after she went missing on December 17.

This includes testing a large section of the 200 Facebook ‘friends’, a process which has already begun, as detectives become increasingly convinced that ­whoever strangled her was known to her.


Police have also confirmed that tests are not being carried out on Miss Yeates’s work colleagues unless they were also connected to her via the social networking site or had other contact such as emails or texts outside of work.
By:
squares
When: 14 Jan 11 10:01
From the Mirror:

Former Scotland Yard detective chief inspector Peter Kirkham - also a SIO in murder investigations - conducts his own review of the hunt and the key areas police need to check.

Public appeals:

The police appeals for information have gone quiet this week which tends to suggest they are not desperate to get more stuff coming in.

The appeal to find Jo’s missing ski sock is a good example of a specific question where detectives needed help.

But there has been nothing since and it could indicate detectives have significant lines of inquiry they are already pursuing that don’t require public input or a further public appeal.

What they won't be doing is releasing information just so the public have a running commentary of what’s going on - if they release stuff there will be an operational reason.

Periodically, detectives will be asking what do we know and conversely - what don’t we know. Where is the missing information and how can we best get it.

It may well be the principle missing pieces are just taking time to pursue.
By:
squares
When: 14 Jan 11 10:08
And The Star:

JOANNA Yeates’s killer took “a massive gamble” in moving her body after she was murdered, police said last night.

Detectives are convinced the 25-year-old was killed in her flat but cannot fathom why the strangler went to the trouble of dumping her body three miles away.


And they believe the killer’s decision to move her holds the key to cracking the case.


Last night a senior detective told the Daily Star: “This is a crucial factor in the investigation.


“Assuming the culprit was undetected carrying out the killing, why on earth did he or she just not leave the flat as quickly and quietly as possible?


“There would only have been a relatively slim chance someone had seen them either entering or leaving the property and they would not have attracted any undue suspicion.


“Jo’s body would have been found when either her boyfriend, a mate or a relative turned up, by which time the culprit would have been long gone.


“Instead the killer chose to take the risk of carrying the body outside, presumably placing it in a vehicle, and dumping it.


“The risks involved in such a move are nothing short of extraordinary.


“Their journey could have been caught on CCTV cameras. And they risked leaving damning forensic evidence on the body and in the vehicle.


“Quite frankly, the murderer took a massive gamble which could well be their undoing.” What makes the killer’s decision even more remarkable is that the building that houses Jo’s flat has no rear entrance.


That means the murderer would have had to carry her body out of the front in full view of residents of flats in her block, as well as other neighbours.


Jo went missing from the Bristol flat as boyfriend Greg Reardon, 27, was visiting his newborn twin nieces in Sheffield.


Two neighbours reported hearing a scream coming from her home at 9pm on December 17, the night she vanished.
By:
squares
When: 14 Jan 11 10:08
first mention of newborn twin nieces in Sheffield??
By:
wur
When: 14 Jan 11 10:10
[i]the investigation is understood to be focusing its attention on testing people known to Miss Yeates, 25, whose body was found dumped beside a country lane on Christmas Day after she went missing on December 17.

This includes testing a large section of the 200 Facebook ‘friends’, a process which has already begun, as detectives become increasingly convinced that ­whoever strangled her was known to her.


Police have also confirmed that tests are not being carried out on Miss Yeates’s work colleagues unless they were also connected to her via the social networking site or had other contact such as emails or texts outside of work.
[/i[


I cannot believe this. They think her 200 Facebook contacts are worth testing, while her workmates aren't?
By:
kkkatt
When: 14 Jan 11 11:01
its probably a small saliva sample ,taken from the victims face or hands which a workmate could explain.contact at work or in the pub on a cup or a glass. speaking close to her face in a noisey pub.however dna from someone she knew but wasn`t known to have been in physical contact with would be significant.
By:
Stretch Armstrong
When: 14 Jan 11 11:19
Yeah maybe she had been talking to somebody in the pub with a heavy lisp who has been showering her with small spots of saliva.Next line of enquiry who has a lisp?Would be a nightmare if that person was wrongly accused when all they were doing was having a friendly chat with bits of saliva spray
By:
mr winkle
When: 14 Jan 11 11:25
thothageth
By:
brendanuk1
When: 14 Jan 11 11:28
plenty of kisses on cheeks at these christmas parties.

Newborn twins is interesting explains why he went when mum & dad didnt and in bad weather. Cant see why this wasnt released earier Confused
By:
1st time poster
When: 14 Jan 11 16:12
there must be alot of single and unatatched people on this thread,for those in denial i,ll set you a little test ;

next time your wife,girlfriend ,boyfriend,husband  etc goes away for the weekend and leaves you alone,when she returns tell her or him that you got a little tipsy or bored and phoned an old friend  you hadnt seen for 18 months and invited them for a drink on mad friday the week before xmas, i look forward to you showing us the photographs of you wearing a frying pan,anyone thinking this is usual behaviour is clearly one thing and one thing only SINGLE
By:
harcon
When: 14 Jan 11 16:15
LaughLaugh Good post
By:
The Magic Flea
When: 14 Jan 11 16:16
my missus visits her ex-boyfriend and first love on a regular basis, sometimes even staying a his place.
Only one thing you can be, either over-bearing, untrusting or SINGLE
By:
Sunset Cristo
When: 14 Jan 11 16:20
Or gullible. Your post was a false dichotomy.
By:
1st time poster
When: 14 Jan 11 16:31
well heres a tip magic tell the wife you are staying over at an ex girlfriends house and having a few drinks,grow some magic she,s taking the piff
By:
The Magic Flea
When: 14 Jan 11 16:34
I have known my wife for 13 years, and fully trust her as she trusts me. Unfortunately I am not in touch with my exes any more, but I don't believe she would have a problem. I am rather envious that she managed to stay good friends with her exes, but she is a much bigger person than my former girlfriends
By:
bigH
When: 14 Jan 11 16:39
Jo went missing from the Bristol flat as boyfriend Greg Reardon, 27, was visiting his newborn twin nieces in Sheffield.

Initially I found it very strange that she did not go with the boyfriend on the xmas visit to see his half brother and parents

I find it even stranger now that he was visiting Sheffield to get a first view of his newborn twin nieces.

Why would she not want to be there with him for that?

I can't imagine that the b/f would be happy for her not to attend.
By:
Aceme
When: 14 Jan 11 19:36
Not that strange really.They were preparing for their first Xmas in the flat and having a party on the Tuesday. No doubt they would like to impress new friends and colleagues. Had both gone to Sheffield and returned Sunday evening they would have then gone to work Monday and Tuesday thus leaving no time to prepare. Jo stayed at home to bake mince pies and do shopping in preparation for the party.No doubt she would catch up with the nieces later.
By:
curious-cat
When: 14 Jan 11 20:26
I'm sure the 'newborn twin nieces ' has been known for some time.

I think the boyfriend posted that info on a social networking site.
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