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Gotta be close to 1.01 imo.
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David Icke does
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is SETI still going or has been scrapped?
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I had SETI and after I had one of those that was looking for a cure for cancer.
Why don't these people set their sites a bit lower? |
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Just noticed Paddy Poopers are running scared on this topic.
10 years ago you'd have got 1000/1 A few months ago I reported they were offering 50/1. Now after the reports from yesterday about a Planet found in the hospitable zone around another planet they have cut the odds to.... wait for it.... 10/1 and quote: "Singles Only. Settled on the sitting President of the USA making a statement confirming without doubt the existence of alternative life beings from another planet." lol |
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Will probably limit you to £5 too
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Has the market got a settlement date?
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2020
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Market is:
Will extraterrestrial life be proven before 2020 No : 1/50 Yes 10/1 |
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Poor value, but 'yes' is a cert, assuming that fossilized bacteria can count. Theres some satelite heading for europa in 2019. Bank job imo.
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Crafty gits, sh!t odds but they'll pay out for nothing:
"Proposed for a launch in 2020, the Europa Jupiter System Mission (EJSM) is a joint NASA/ESA proposal for exploration of Jupiter's moons." And it will take a spacecraft a min of 2 years to get there. |
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im offering 14/1 aliens exist ,any takers :)
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I'll have 100 Zonks at 14/1 please
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I can confirm they exist. Seen em missen.
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There must have been countless thousands of intelligent life forms in the universe. And the vast majority will end/have ended the way we will. A few must have escaped their crippling inheritance though. Knowing what life holds they must be masturbating furiously while watching porn and drinking themselves senseless.
Oh, wait... |
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I would suspect the universe is teeming with life but I also suspect the very vast majority won't have got past the swamp stage.
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youve been to Manchester I see
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Biggest certainty since sliced bread.
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Aliens elsewhere = 1.00000000000000000000001
Aliens on Earth = 1,000,000,000,000,000,000 A false alien incident (ie thought alien but really human) = 500 |
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is SETI still going or has been scrapped?
Yes in a fashion. In 1979 the University of California, Berkeley launched a SETI project named "Search for Extraterrestrial Radio Emissions from Nearby Developed Intelligent Populations (SERENDIP)".[12] In 1986, UC Berkeley initiated their second SETI effort, SERENDIP II, and has continued with four more SERENDIP efforts to the present day. The latest incarnation of the SERENDIP project is SERENDIP V.v, a commensal all-sky survey using the Arecibo radio telescope began in June 2009 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SETI They might well have had one contact, but then it disappeared. Aliens taking the piss. The OSU SETI program gained fame on August 15, 1977 when Jerry Ehman, a project volunteer, witnessed a startlingly strong signal received by the telescope. He quickly circled the indication on a printout and scribbled the phrase “Wow!” in the margin. This signal, dubbed the Wow! signal, is considered by some[who?] to be the most likely candidate from an artificial, extraterrestrial source ever discovered, but it has not been detected again in several additional searches http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SETI |
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in all fairness only a complete fkwit would begin to believe there isnt other forms lving + habiting other planets somewhere or other.
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course theres no other life forms in the vastness of space....indeed that makes the rest of space a complete waste of space
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drake_equation |
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seti@home is still going
http://setiathome.ssl.berkeley.edu/ |
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The chances of anything coming from Mars are a million to one.
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Marzipan.
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Fair chance there's life elsewhere in our solar system, but with a common ancestry to life on earth.
As close to zero chance as makes no difference that there is life anywhere else in the universe. The extraordinary sequence of precisely positioned events required for chemicals to form a reproducing cell is orders of magnitude more improbable than the number of atoms in the observable universe. Obviously it's happened once, within our solar system, but if you believe it could have happened twice, then you're going to have to start believing in an intelligent Creator. |
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As Enrico Fermi said, "If the galaxy is teeming with life, where is everyone?"
SFBTW - I've seen you post this theory before. Why don't we hear this from scientists? |
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Our propulsion systems, and our knowledge and understanding of the universe, are primitive.
SBTW's view is incorrect in my view, I make it a close to zero chance that there isn't intelligent life elsewhere in the universe. That doesn't mean that we will ever find it, or that it will ever find us. Fascinating subject imo - impossible to be bullish one way or the other I would say. |
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I liked this. Maybe a bit slow and cheap budget but I enjoyed it.
Without Warning [Full] (1994) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f9xMTA7qhZM |
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I married 1..............so I fink they exist............
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The Drake Equation doesn't really mean anything as some of the variables are pure guesses. First of all, would the powers that be want the populous of earth to know if there were aliens if they were contacted? With the exponential speed of technological advancement to see and hear messages from space(as well as to send them)it's hard to believe that there hasn't been contact already if there was ever going to be some.
When you think of the technological advancement in just the last 100 years wouldn't it seem that any other civilizations out there which have developed even 100 years (a miniscule amount of time) ahead of us would have found a way to spread tentacles of lasers or radio signals throughout the galaxy for others to pick up? |
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yes looking like we might be lonely
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When you think of the technological advancement in just the last 100 years wouldn't it seem that any other civilizations out there which have developed even 100 years (a miniscule amount of time) ahead of us would have found a way to spread tentacles of lasers or radio signals throughout the galaxy for others to pick up?
Fermi's view is similar although he said someone would have colonised the galaxy. SFBTW is saying that there is no alien life whatsoever. Intelligent or otherwise. |
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im fascinated by this and have to say they have to exist
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i_agree_with_nick 02 Oct 14 18:35 Joined: 21 May 10 | Topic/replies: 5,716 | Blogger: i_agree_with_nick's blog
As Enrico Fermi said, "If the galaxy is teeming with life, where is everyone?" SFBTW - I've seen you post this theory before. Why don't we hear this from scientists? Hawking discussed this in a lecture a few years ago: We do not know how DNA molecules first appeared. The chances against a DNA molecule arising by random fluctuations are very small. Some people have therefore suggested that life came to Earth from elsewhere, and that there are seeds of life floating round in the galaxy. However, it seems unlikely that DNA could survive for long in the radiation in space. And even if it could, it would not really help explain the origin of life, because the time available since the formation of carbon is only just over double the age of the Earth. ... What is the explanation of why we have not been visited? One possibility is that the argument, about the appearance of life on Earth, is wrong. Maybe the probability of life spontaneously appearing is so low, that Earth is the only planet in the galaxy, or in the observable universe, in which it happened. http://www.hawking.org.uk/life-in-the-universe.html More specifically Paul Davies, the prominent physicist and chairman of the SETI: Post-Detection Science and Technology Taskgroup, believes the odds against life arising anywhere are so astronomically large that the scientist in him has to admit we must be alone. His book The Eerie Silence discusses this problem. When he appeared on The Sky At Night a few years ago, he described the notion that since there are so many stars in the observable universe then life must also have arisen elsewhere as "silly". There are a million different types of protein in the human body. To form an average one requires 200 amino-acid molecules to self-assemble in the correct order. The number of possible combinations is 10^260 (1 followed by 260 zeroes), which is a number so vast that it is more than the number of atoms in the observable universe. The human body contains a million different proteins. Collagen requires 1,055 amino acid molecules to assemble in the correct sequence. It could only happen once. But there's more ... protein is useless without DNA to reproduce it. But DNA has no other purpose other than to reproduce protein. Yet, incredibly, the two substances arose simultaneously, side-by-side. The Nobel-prize-wining biologist Jacques Monod put it well. From http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jacques_Monod He was also a proponent of the view that life on earth arose by freak chemical accident and was unlikely to be duplicated even in the vast universe. "Man at last knows he is alone in the unfeeling immensity of the universe, out of which he has emerged only by chance. His destiny is nowhere spelled out, nor is his duty. The kingdom above or the darkness below; it is for him to choose", he wrote in 1971.[10] He used the bleak assessment that forms the earlier part of the quote as a springboard to argue for atheism. As I said, if you believe life began more than once, you're effectively believing in God. |
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walofs. There is no answer, we dont know. why bring god into it
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I think i pumped one once in Cork..
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I think Paul Davies's point would stand if human life had arisen spontaneously. Since human life is the result of evolution and selection from more basic life-forms however, I don't believe it does.
There is little doubt, to take his basic premise, that human life would not arise and has not arisen elsewhere given the exact sequence of events and ingredients necessary to create it. To extrapolate from that premise that no intelligent life can exist elsewhere is a massive leap of faith imo. We have no idea, for instance, whether life can exist without the presence of carbon. Our own creation and existence depends on carbon - again it would be foolish in the extreme to conclude, with no evidence other than conditions on our own planet, that life based on other chemicals and depending on different conditions is impossible. And I would argue with your God hypothesis - it is the basis of Christian belief that we are alone in the universe because God created human life on this planet only. It runs counter to that hypothesis to suggest that it, or something resembling it, also exists in other worlds. As for Monod, his is more a philosophical argument, based on his own guess. The fact is, we don't know. It wasn't very long ago that SETI were telling everyone that they were confident intelligent life would be detected within the next twenty years. And in the last couple of weeks we have detected the presence, several light years away, of exactly the type of complex carbon molecules required to initiate and sustain life. |