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Todays strong travellers
back and lay off in running 6-20 Wetherby Cool Baranca (well odds-on to be placed) 6-30 Sandown Fantasy Explorer (about 2.5 for a place) Two front runners in here will ensure a fast pace. FE should come from off the pace, but will cave in quickly when pressure is applied. 7-05 Sandown Great Acclaim Wind and Place prices both on the drift. The offputting thing is Fanshawes appalling record in this race, not one place from 20 runners. But, a traveller is a traveller, got to be worth a bet to trade on. HOSSES FOR COSSES  6-00 Southwell Gracies Gift, has run here 18 times gaining 5 wins and 5 places. May not win again, but shouldn't be the price it is at the moment (20 on here, 10s in the shops) A LAY ON FIBRESAND the post below was made 3 weeks ago. mr winkle 10 May 11 17:48 Whippers progeny have had 39 races on Fibresand at Southwell That was his first winner (dodgy race imo)  Look what price it went to in running as it got miles behind in a really slow run race. 11 seconds below average iirc, and the pacemaker that went off like an express train was unplaced. http://i53.tinypic.com/2h5nr46.jpg I shall be laying Three White Sox again today to get my money back that I lost last time. |
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would have posted about the first at Lingfield but didn't find time.
( they finished 1st and 3rd ) -------------------------------------- should betfair have taken commission on this ? 2011-06-01 17:54 15002957525 2011-06-01 16:06 Quarter Final Matches A Murray v Chela / Match Odds Comm Charged 9.09% On Net winnings of GBP0.11 - - - (0.01) |
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the winner of the Ling 2.20 was a Cumani - Fallon combination
from the race description they went a little fast as the first two were closers. |
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4.00 Southwell
6th 10-1 Gracie's Gift 8-9 v G Gibbons R C Guest outpaced, stayed on from 2f out, never near leaders opened 16/1 touched 9/1 hope the bf price went lower than 20 for you |
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Cool Baranca 1st 5-2
Fantasy Explorer btn a neck must have been ok for you |
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6-20 Wetherby
Cool Baranca (well odds-on to be placed) In the frame 6-30 Sandown Fantasy Explorer (about 2.5 for a place) In the frame 7-05 Sandown Great Acclaim Wind and Place prices both on the drift. The offputting thing is Fanshawes appalling record in this race, not one place from 20 runners. But, a traveller is a traveller, got to be worth a bet to trade on. Switched right at start, never in the race. HOSSES FOR COSSES 6-00 Southwell (should have beeb 4-00 not 6-00) [smiley:crazy] Gracies Gift, has run here 18 times gaining 5 wins and 5 places. May not win again, but shouldn't be the price it is at the moment (20 on here, 10s in the shops) It hit 30 about 20 minutes before the off, and 5.9 for a place, then some punters forced it back down to 15 and 3.95, I took my stake back before the off. It finished 6th after being outpaced and running on at the end A LAY ON FIBRESAND Whippers progeny have had 39 races on Fibresand at Southwell It won by half the facking track, and the horse that was 2nd, I'm Spartacus, had not run for 4 years. It did go to 2.5 in running when it was at the back, but I left it as I didn't think it would win.  Now 41 races by Whippers progeny - two wins by the same horse. |
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DETTORI REPORTED
 Finished 4th on Majestic Dream, beaten a neck for 3rd. Has probably cost me the placepot as I got all the other 4 races, and have 5 picks in the last race. 1 7 2 11 - 13 1 - 13 2 - 5 - 13 - 14 - 16 £68,000 in the pool after deductions 242 tickets left That makes it worth £280 with one race to go. |
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Two lines correct if not for Dettori
It paid £505 ffs |
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Statistically six out of seven Dwarfs are not happy.
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Strong travellers (Friday)
Only 3, a quiet day considering the amount of racing today. 1-40 Epsom - Timepiece 6-15 Goodwood - Commerce 8-55 Goodwood - Desert Poppy |
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Number of vierws is creeping up.
People are slowly getting RICH from this thread.  |
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a f/c for me and mrs c-c in the 2nd race
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1-40 Epsom - Timepiece
Best place price before the off was a 1.3 - traded as low as 1.01 but never made the frame 6-15 Goodwood - Commerce Missed the race It was 2.56 earlier on, but finished 7th after nebeing ridden 3 out, so probably no chance to trade out. 8-55 Goodwood - Desert Poppy Best place price was 2.24 last night for abouyt £2, then 2.12 after that It was second. In the same race was Poppy Seed Going senile - got my Poppies mixed up. [smiley:crazy][smiley:crazy][smiley:crazy][smiley:crazy] I backed this at 1.86 for a place after missing 1.91 It won |
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Saturdays strong travellers
2-10 Epsom - On The Dark Side 3-40 Musselburgh - Secret Millionnaire 7-15 Lingfield - Gala Spirit |
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What about strong travellers in running JB ?
downhill course like Epsom - yesterday Dancing Rain 1st 20-1 [ Oaks ] |
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These are hosses to back before the off, but lay in running, as you can see, the majority shorten in price whether they get placed or not.
As stated previously, I don't back Nicholls, Johnston or Channon horses, but I am tempted to have a nibble on Indian Trail for a place in the 3-15. It won this race in 2009, has not won since, but is still on the same handicap mark after 20 more races, where all it has achieved is 4 places. There must be a reason why Nicholls perseveres with a 10 year old who was once rated 102, (now 82) but doesn't give him any low class targets to pick up a win. There is bundles of early pace in the race, and this may suit a hold up hoss to come late. He was 10/3 for a place last night. I've not yet looked this morning. The only problem with backing a hold up horse in a big field is that you have to get a trouble free run for the price to drop in running. A double handful is no good with a wall of horses in front of you at the furlong pole. |
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backing a leading horse is an important part of my armory ...
but I tend to do it when they are a big price .... depends how brave I'm feeling as to when I lay off. ( sometimes they are going so well I put more on  |
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was busy on south hemisphere rugby this morning
something of a struggle to claw back losses Rugby Union: £1.94 Total P&L: £1.94 Rugby Union Showing 1 - 3 of 3 markets Market Start time Settled date Profit/loss (£) Rugby Union / Reds v Brumbies : Match Odds 04-Jun-11 10:40 04-Jun-11 12:38 14.04 Rugby Union / Blues v Chiefs : Match Odds 04-Jun-11 08:35 04-Jun-11 10:15 25.91 Rugby Union / Hurricanes v Lions : Match Odds 04-Jun-11 06:30 04-Jun-11 08:05 -38.01 |
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I have just checked my account and found that I never tipped a strong traveller on Thursday.
Apache Chant 8-25 at Uttoxeter tracked leaders - lost place after 5th - pulled up before 7th - dismounted - no trade available |
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they were showing a timeform race evaluation on ATR the other day
I think m meant races prominently s slow start h hold up a couple had thye olde faymus timeform squiggle from memory |
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today's winning distances at Epsom
sht head 1 length 1/2 length neck hd 3/4 length 1/2 length |
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As stated previously, I don't back Nicholls, Johnston or Channon horses, but I am tempted to have a nibble on Indian Trail for a place in the 3-15.
Beaten a nose and a nose for a place Best place price before the off was 4.8 - it traded as low as 2.12 I bet layers were crapping themselves at the line as it was a bunch finish. Last price matched was 4.00 !!! |
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Saturdays strong travellers
2-10 Epsom - On The Dark Side Placed 3-40 Musselburgh - Secret Millionnaire Ran like a donkey 7-15 Lingfield - Gala Spirit Non-runner |
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Can't find any strong travellers for Sunday.
A speculative place bet on Lizzie Bennett in the 4-40 at Listowel will be my lot for the day. This race is a lot easier than last years races. |
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yesterday at Worcester
1.55 1st 10 Chit Chat 10-1 2nd 11 Grovemere 10-1 3rd 6 Only Witness 7-1 Winning Trainer Jonjo O'Neill Winning Jockey R P McLernon |
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Inner Circle members were on.
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GO TO BED !!!
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A speculative place bet on Lizzie Bennett in the 4-40 at Listowel will be my lot for the day.
Best pre-race place price was 5.0 it traded as low as 2.72 (unplaced) |
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Go To Bed !!
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gotobedists
REPORTED ! |
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gotobedists
REPORTED ! |
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gotobedreportist !!!
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reporting myself as a nervous twitchist
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rain was so bad we didn't go to the quiz .... scrabble in the dry instead.
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That horse won I mentioned yesterday.
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Graham Lee up for ride of the week on your horse pumphol.
I tried to get on ir but I had left the pc for a few minutes and when I got back to it and tried to navigate to it .. betfair wouldn't let me in. incidentally I don't know if this is the reason but firefox 4.0 ( which I upgraded to a couple of weeks ago ) has something called plugin-container.exe which slows your pc down. you can delete it using task mananger but it pops back up again. |
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3.15 NA
Verdict The free-going Gunship will make this a thorough test but has never suggested he is capable of winning off this kind of mark. Fakenham second Isle Of Inishmore may also be in the handicapper's grip now so this may rest between MARIGOLDS WAY and Simply Strong. Charlie Mann's seven-year-old got the better of the former when runner-up to Life Of A Luso over C&D three weeks ago but Anthony Honeyball's charge may have gone for home too soon that day and is 6lb better off now. With the stronger handling of Sam Thomas also in his favour, he is taken to come out on top today. |
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hacked up
brilliant write up wd for yesterday pumphol |
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1st Marigolds Way 11-3 b S Thomas A J Honeyball 9 4/1
held up in 3rd, went 2nd before 10th, challenged 2 out, led when not fluent last, asserted towards finish opened 5/1 touched 11/2 2nd 3¾ Gunship (IRE) 11-7 b M J Quinlan (5) Mrs C M Hamilton 10 11/2 led, ridden and joined when not fluent 2 out, headed last, stayed on same pace, held towards finish touched 5/1 (6) Simply Strong (IRE) withdrawn - deduction of 30p in the pound for All Bets |
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playing up winnings on Indian Valley and One Hit Wonder in 8.15 Wdsr.
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