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Snooker discussion : What do you think causes a kick?
Snooker discussion : What do you think causes a kick?
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Aren't kicks just a ready made excuse for missing a ball? When we play snooker we miss hundreds each game. I wonder how many are due to kicks and not jsut shyte shots as is ordinarily the case?
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Personally, I find watching snooker about as exciting as watching paint dry
But, if you want a laugh, turme off the sound and put the subtitles on The best one being 'The Crucible', that becomes the crystal ball  |
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It's strange how one's memory plays tricks. I could have sworn that I started this thread, but it was actually Father Maguire.
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when someone doubles the black in to win a match.
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The cueballs are always airborne during a game in the places I go to play snooker. Although that's usually because they're being swung around somebodies head in a sock.
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Gadzooks frasier, where have you been?
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Around and about Slippy, and still posting on the dark side. Unfortunately I lost confidence in betfair when after 8 years of trying i finally won a bet. So i thought it best to leave for a while and reassess my punting strategy.
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they happen from the crumbs stephen lee leaves behind on table from his sandwiches
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and the grains of coke snorted from michaelas naked butt cheeks.
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Old trick on a pool table was to put a bit of grit under your finger nail, then tap down on the table in front of a pocket and to say slam the black in here. Astonishment abound when the black bounced on the table deposited grit, and flew off the table over the pocket.
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I think it's caused by grease on the cloth transferred there from the players' hands.
Players should have to wear a glove on their bridge hand. |
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Although not the only factor, chalk dust between white and object ball most definitely is a common cause of kicks.
The remedy to this problem, of course, is to eliminate the need for billiard chalk as an anti-slip agent. To my mind, the very fact that we require chalk to prevent a cuetip from miscueing indicates a poorly designed cuetip. There has to be a better material for the job than leather in my opinion. Some form of rubber, perhaps? |
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Ball being off the table if the only logical theory. Can a bit of chalk or dust logically cause a kick to happen? Of course not..that's a myth
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Chalk does cause kicks, sir, and such an effect is easily provable. Indeed, a few trickshots (my speciality) rely on the fact.
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Also humid room as more chalk gets stuck to the cueball.
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Just bumping a few threads I wanted to save from the upgrade. My apologies for cluttering the forum.
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I've always assumed they're caused by chalk dust. Most of the players and ex-players seem to think the same although Stephen Hendry said most are caused by bad cueing.
Btw, anyone else think that Ricky Walden looks like the actor Neil Dudgeon? |
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I think they're caused by grease from the players' hands when they place the cue ball in baulk or smooth the nap with their hands.
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The club I play in most often, the cloth is fairly slow and rarely cleaned, the balls are old, and it's often underheated. Kicks are rare.
Sometimes, though not enough these days sadly, I play on a tournament table which is well looked after, newish balls, thin cloth, and kicks are much more prevalent. The notion that imperceptible downward or upward motion on the cueball causes most kicks is a relatively new idea among the BBC's motley crew of commentators, but one I have favoured for a few years. It seems to me that the addition of an absolute master of the game, Stephen Hendry, to the commentary team has seen this idea gather favour, as he is pretty adamant that bad striking is the cause of most kicks. The guy I play with most often on the bad tables in my club gets many more kicks than me. He thinks it's luck, but I keep telling him it's because he cues like a p*sshead with parkinson's, whereas I cue like a God. |
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Just found this thread from Father Maguire in the archives. I remember sending an email to the BBC about this back in 2010 when I mentioned an airborne cueball as a major cause of kicks. They never had the decency to reply, but I notice that the theory is now widely accepted in commentary.
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Thought Shaun Murphy and his scientists had cracked this? oils from the cloth.
Murphy and his team then created a lacquer which the balls are cleaned prior to a match. It seemed to negate the kicks. |
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Did it actually work, AG. I'd be most surprised indeed, as video footage of airborne cueballs causing kicks is conclusive in my view.
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It was the Lisbon event last year PM. They used a polish by Aramith, obviously Murphy praised it, even Mark Williams and a few others. They had no kicks but ball control was well, it was used by players an excuse as to why they could control the ball.
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How interesting.
When I had a cue factory we sometimes used to polish the balls with silicon spray for a laugh. It made them almost unplayable, but you couldn't half make the cueball do some weird and wonderful things. |
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Another typo, attempting to concentrate on far too many things at once.
*it was used by players an excuse as to why they could not control the ball. I wonder if the players can tell the difference between a bouncing ball kick effect to that of a separate entity kick which the polish negates. |
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Probably not, AG.
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Matthew Stevens just had a massive kick on the black, caused by poor cueing I believe on that occasion.
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