Why do you want a relationship with a racist, homophobic, murdering, bully who condones rape and torture whilst swinging violently between love and hate, aggression and mercy?

Ha, I think they wrote about her in the Bible, Oval.

The problem i see is this,, the commentators or spokesmen of the bible not only profess to know of the `creator of life` the architect of everything, but they know him so well that they know his inner thoughts....yet when prophecies do not pan out as planned,,the prophecies have been misinterperated by todays believers.

If Adam and Eve created Cane and Able,,,then how did Cane and Able have children,,are we saying it was incest? the bible is nonsense in more ways than you believe Tony.

So basically Adam and Eve were at it like rabbits.

Oh yes. It was definitely incest.

But hey! As the French say, un trou est un trou.

Is there any mention in Genesis as to what colour skin Adam and Eve had? Don't think so. Maybe you should be wondering where white people came from.

Sunset and Tony, why did you both leave the "Indisputable Evidence for God" thread so bare if there is so much evidence that you keep referring to?

Ivor, I entirely try and wind up Sunset, it's a chit chat duty I feel obiged to make. I've given up reading what he says as it's usually gibberish but usually contains the words "Prove it" in some part of his C/P.

Weather forecasters are false prophets? Classic!

I like to give other peoples beliefs and opinions every chance, every benefit-of-the-doubt possible - but Sunset, you really let yourself down with this :  ".marrying your brother +sister is not a good idea because of genetic , but we don't know that this applied at this time".
    We do know it, we really do.
I can believe in things for which there is no evidence
I can believe in things which my fellow man calls crazy
But I can't believe in laws of nature - genetic ones, in this case - which suspend themselves just for long enough to allow people who believe as you do to say "we don't know that this applied at this time"  : we do Sunset, we really do.

I like to give other peoples beliefs and opinions every chance, every benefit-of-the-doubt possible - but Sunset, you really let yourself down with this :  ".marrying your brother +sister is not a good idea because of genetic , but we don't know that this applied at this time".
    We do know it, we really do.
I can believe in things for which there is no evidence
I can believe in things which my fellow man calls crazy
But I can't believe in laws of nature - genetic ones, in this case - which suspend themselves just for long enough to allow people who believe as you do to say "we don't know that this applied at this time"  : we do Sunset, we really do.


Please present your evidence then?

Christo wrote

Depends on your definition of human being. We are **** sapiens sapiens.[b]possibly there was other kinds of humans before us....[/b]holy shiit,,

i find lots of problems regarding the ot and yet i am convinced that the prophecies relating to jesus have indeed, been proven true, i can study christ's life, all he said, i cant believe some people at the time had other motives regarding all he said about himself and God.
He preached love, forgiveness, a new relationship with the father through beleiving in him, he never ever told people to go to war, kill others, rape etc or indeed take money...its people all along the line who have misinterpreted and disobeyed the teachings, if people did what he said, the world would be a much better place.
I have problems with prayer, and loving my neighbour, i cant really live the way he meant me to, but this doesnt make the message any less real.
I cant accept jesus was a liar, or mad, and certainly he showed no evidence of harming anyone.
I therefore have to decide what i do think of him, and i believe he is who he says he is...if man had just conjured the sayings and miracles up, i believe the world is in an even worse state than it already is...a world without hope where the only thing u have to look forward to is death...and you will never see your family again, this has to be the most futile thing about life itself, 75 yrs is a joke, a lifetime seemingly without purpose other than to have children you will never see again.
The evidence for God's handiwork is everywhere,my spirit acknowledges this every time i look at nature.
I am intensely interested in what life means, ad what God is like,  I believe Ive found the answer to the latter; as far as the former is concerned im afraid well never know, or at least, if all i believe is true, not this side of eternity.

IF he existed as you believe - he would be called a vicar or deacon or bishop today - no more than that.

of course they did  if God made them!

He preached love, forgiveness, a new relationship with the father through beleiving in him, he never ever told people to go to war, kill others, rape etc or indeed take money...its people all along the line who have misinterpreted and disobeyed the teachings, if people did what he said, the world would be a much better place.



But his father preached hate, punishment, war, murder, rape, looting... no one can misunderstand God in this respect.

well, you already heard this before d m:
of course it 'appears' that the human race started out with a little bit of incest.
The world at that time very good, God hadn't declared sex with relatives as sinful until moses' time, as time has progressed, it would appear the degeneration of both humankind and the world itself would require some needed changes to prevent certain unfortunate scenarios..I feel a lot of God's laws weren't necessarily put into place to spoil our fun, but to actually forewarn us about consequences to actions..ie. God wouldve known that, given time, inbreeding couldve resulted in deformity ..im sure you know the rest.

which is it to be then, slime or monkeys?