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By:
Big Charlie
When: 06 Feb 10 16:34
Go back to the politics forum.
By:
flushgordon
When: 06 Feb 10 16:38
although you are being ironic bara ,the anomaly is in someways true you are affected and have your views influenced by your surroundings and what happens to you.
you cannot sweep under the carpet what people feel and use the racsist card at will,
By:
flushgordon
When: 06 Feb 10 16:39
or the racist card for that matter
By:
baracouda30
When: 06 Feb 10 16:43
I will go to the Newham forum as soon as you have set one up Big C.

Only a matter of time surely?
By:
Big Charlie
When: 06 Feb 10 22:22
There is a Newham forum.

I went on it two years ago.

They're all over 60 years of age and none of them live there any more.

50% of the natives in Newham haven't grasped proper English yet, never mind computers.
By:
Big Charlie
When: 06 Feb 10 23:15
Jellied eel shop in the old Rathbone market.

http://i45.tinypic.com/2eulnwx.jpg

This was taken in the 60s I should think, and the business had been established for 40 years already.

Can't stand 'em myself. :(


A homage to Pie and Mash in photos.

http://www.pie-and-mash.com/gall-p.shtml


Shops still going

http://www.pie-and-mash.com/shops.php

Some of these may be owned by forumites.

BC's
Berts
Clarks
Frasiers
Roys
Ucowson

among the names. :)
By:
Big Charlie
When: 07 Feb 10 23:41
FIRST WORLD WAR EXPLOSION - MUNITIONS FACTORY IN SILVERTOWN

http://i47.tinypic.com/2055il1.jpg

On 19 January 1917 the biggest explosion ever in the metropolis destroyed a large part of Silvertown in East London.

Silvertown is an industrial area fronting the River Thames directly to the south of the Royal Victoria Dock. It developed in the 1850s and was named after Samuel Winkworth Silver, who established a factory there. Silver's business prospered and became know as the India-Rubber, Gutta-Percha, and Telegraph Works Company Limited. The factory made some of the first Bell's patent telephones in the 1880s.

Silvertown was beyond the part of London governed by the Metropolitan Building Act (1843), which controlled the setting up of noxious industries. As a result, many factories were established in Silvertown.

Dangerous and unpleasant products were handled and made, such as caustic soda, sulphuric acid, manure, creosote and petroleum. Between the docks, railway lines and industrial premises, workers lived in rows of small densely packed terrace houses.

During the First World War in 1915, a Silvertown chemical plant owned by Brunner, Mond & Co was adapted for the production of trinitrotoluene (T.N.T.), a highly explosive substance. This was ordered by government since explosives were in great demand on the Western Front. The company resisted this development as the surrounding area was densely populated. Even handling T.N.T. was hazardous: many munitions workers found that it turned their skin yellow, caused nausea and chest pains.

Just before 7am on 19 January 1917, a fire started at the works resulting in the detonation of 50 tons of high explosives. A large part of the factory was instantly destroyed together with several nearby buildings and streets. The flour mills and silos on the south side of the Royal Victoria Dock were badly damaged. Across the river on the Greenwich Peninsula, now the site of the Millennium Dome, one of the gas holders exploded.

Although there was a strong response from local communities, the geographical isolation of the area hindered rescue work. In Silvertown 73 people died and 300 were injured. Between 60,000 and 70,000 properties were damaged to some degree. The cost of the damage was estimated at a quarter of a million pounds, an enormous sum at that time.

The day after the explosion, the local authorities set up the Explosion Emergency Committee to oversee rescue and rebuilding work. By mid-February 1917, more than 1,700 men were employed in repairing houses. By August most of the work was complete. The government eventually paid about three million pounds in compensation to the people affected by the disaster.

An inquiry into the incident judged that Silvertown was a totally unsuitable place for a T.N.T. plant and castigated Brunner, Mond & Co for negligence in the running of their works. The report remained secret until the 1950s.

The Silvertown explosion was not the only First World War munition disaster. An explosion on 1 July 1918 at the Chilwell ammunition factory in Nottingham killed 134 workers and injured 250.
By:
Stevie Strikes
When: 08 Feb 10 00:00
I remember gagging on the smell from the lard factory everytime I went over the flyover.
By:
Big Charlie
When: 08 Feb 10 00:05
Lard ???

That was probably coming from Pura Foods, which is on the bend of the river but is actually in Poplar E14, part of Tower Hamlets.

Knights were the soap manufacturers in Silvertown, remember knights Castille ? All made from animal fat, but about 600 yards from the flyover.
By:
Big Charlie
When: 08 Feb 10 00:08
And as for smart arse LF. there are only 15 threads in total in 'gubbed' on Newham.
By:
Stevie Strikes
When: 08 Feb 10 00:08
That was it, Pura. It's on a bend in the river lee. It felt like you were eating mouthfuls of whatever they were making on a bad day.

Now driving past the Mars factory in Slough was something else again...
By:
Tommy Toes
When: 08 Feb 10 00:10
Hello Stevie.
Paul TadHunter was about tonight - see Clarky's 'Spring Fair at NEC' thread.
By:
Stevie Strikes
When: 08 Feb 10 00:11
A'right TT. Yep I'll take a quick look, but I should be in bed.
By:
Tommy Toes
When: 08 Feb 10 00:13
I haven't seen him for over 18 months or more. It would be good if we could get him back - note Clarky's suggestion of you playing a gig in his pub!
By:
Big Charlie
When: 08 Feb 10 00:14
I worked at Pura for 2 months 3 weeks and 2 days, when on a 3 month probationary period. Had a disagreement with a mouthy leading hand. Lost my rag and punched him, which was instant dismissal.

I remember it well as I got a tax free months wages in lieu of notice, and the followiing day I had a yankee up (only had two up in my life) in Sadcrooks in Plaistow. And the day after that I had one bet only based on Dick Whitfords ratings in the Sporting Life. It won at 33/1.

Happy days.
By:
ManorBlade
When: 08 Feb 10 05:58
newham generals
By:
Big Charlie
When: 08 Feb 10 11:25
Facking noise they make - bad enough on their own, but teaming up with Dizzee Rascal was worse.
By:
Big Charlie
When: 08 Feb 10 12:53
RONAN POINT COLLAPSE

http://i45.tinypic.com/14wf28p.jpg

Ronan Point was a 23-storey tower block in Newham, East London, which suffered a partial collapse when a gas explosion demolished a load bearing wall, causing the collapse of one entire corner of the building. Four people were killed in the incident, and seventeen were injured.

Ronan Point, named after Harry Louis Ronan (a former Chairman of the Housing Committee of the London Borough of Newham), was part of the wave of tower blocks built in the 1960s as cheap, affordable prefabricated housing for inhabitants of the West Ham region of London. The tower was built by Taylor Woodrow Anglian, using a technique known as Large Panel System building or LPS. This involved casting large concrete prefabricated sections off-site, then bolting them together to construct the building.

Building started in 1966, and construction was completed on 11 March 1968.

At approximately 5:45am on 16 May, 1968, 56-year-old cake decorator Ivy Hodge went into her kitchen in flat 90, a corner flat on the 18th floor of the building, and lit a match to light the stove for her early morning cup of tea. This sparked a gas explosion, which blew out the load bearing flank walls, removing the structural supports to the four flats above. It is believed that the weakness was in the joints connecting the vertical walls to the floor slabs. The flank walls fell away, leaving the floors above unsupported. This caused the progressive collapse of the whole south-east corner of the building.

Because the building had just opened, three of the four flats immediately above Miss Hodge's were unoccupied. Out of the 260 residents of the building, four people were immediately killed in the collapse, and seventeen were injured, including a young mother who was stranded on a narrow ledge when the rest of her living room disappeared. Miss Hodge survived, despite being blown across the room by the explosion - as did her gas stove, which she took to her new address after the explosion.

Although Ronan Point was repaired using strengthened joints, public confidence in the safety of residential tower blocks had been irreparably shaken. Within a couple of decades, this lack of confidence, plus the mounting social problems manifesting themselves within such developments, led to many tower blocks being demolished. Despite the extent of the damage, Ronan Point was partly rebuilt after the explosion but was demolished in 1986 to make way for a new development of low-rise housing.
By:
Big Charlie
When: 08 Feb 10 17:32
Anybody reading al this pukka stuff ?
By:
orioles
When: 08 Feb 10 17:36
Not really, BC.

Perhaps time to light the pyre and push the longboat out onto the Newham fjord?
By:
Big Charlie
When: 08 Feb 10 17:44
I post hintersting harticles and fotograrfs, and nobody comments :(

If I post my usual stuff the thread will fill up with wishy washy liberals.

I'm sure that some people are only here for the sake of arguments.
By:
orioles
When: 08 Feb 10 17:46
No they're not.












I'll get me coat.
By:
Veck
When: 08 Feb 10 17:47
I could probably find interesting highlights of Newham too. The bleaknesss of the place is far more interesting!
By:
Big Charlie
When: 08 Feb 10 17:51
If you all behave I'll post a photo of my grandad in 1915, just before he went off to fight for King and Country.

If he hadn't come back I wouldn't be here typing this. :)
By:
orioles
When: 08 Feb 10 17:53
Well, if that doesn't speed up time travel research, then nothing will!
By:
Big Charlie
When: 08 Feb 10 17:54
HGWELLSIST
REPORTED
By:
orioles
When: 08 Feb 10 18:01
Has someone been reading to you again?
By:
Big Charlie
When: 08 Feb 10 18:11
I'm not George Bernard
By:
Big Charlie
When: 08 Feb 10 21:21
Neither are we.
By:
Big Charlie
When: 08 Feb 10 23:14
In view of a certain thread tonight, I would just like to confirm that the damage in the photograph of the 13-53 post was caused by a gas leak, not a plane. :)
By:
boxingthefox
When: 09 Feb 10 19:42
Mate of mine says it was an Exocet, but he also thinks he can win on Betfair, what can I say.
By:
wit-ham
When: 09 Feb 10 20:14
http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/standard/article-23803627-eight-behind-bars-for-tube-and-bus-attacks.do


we get a lot of problems with lads from the stratford area on our line into london
had 3 attacks in the last 2 weeks on trains between stratford and shenfield alone
By:
Big Charlie
When: 09 Feb 10 20:42
8 s(umbags, all black.

Who'd have have thought it.

6 from Newham, what a surprise.
By:
boxingthefox
When: 09 Feb 10 20:54
BC, I was attacked by 6 brave black bastids years ago, got stabbed but survived, the only people I hate more than these**bags are the bleedin heart Liberals. those f-u-c-k-e-r-s seem to escape the real world.
By:
Big Charlie
When: 09 Feb 10 21:08
I've never been picked on since I left school.

I must have a lucky face :)
By:
boxingthefox
When: 09 Feb 10 21:14
It was just bad luck on my part, I was leaving a gig, where these c-u-n-t-s had just been thrown out of for dealing, one of me, 6 of them, no contest.
By:
boxingthefox
When: 09 Feb 10 21:24
Lol BC, ...one of me, 6 of them, it wasn't even Pimms O clock. ...........Got to laugh.................wasn't funny at the time though.
By:
Big Charlie
When: 09 Feb 10 21:28
Yobs prey on the those that they think are weak, or too old to retaliate.

Sometimes, they get it wrong. :)

This is a photo taken of my grandad in 1915, just before he went to war.

http://i47.tinypic.com/2zqwq6f.jpg

He was 19 then.

Around about 1963/4, after my gran died, he left east London and moved to Westham, near Eastbourne, to live with my aunt (his daughter) We had no room at our house in London, so it was either off to aunt Dollys, or live by himself.

He was barged into by two yobs in Woolies in Eastbourne in about 1972. He called after them asking if they were going to apologise. One of them got 'lippy' and shouted what for grandad ?'

Grandad beckoned him closer 'Come 'ere and I'll show ya.'

Underestimating my grandad, he got too close, was grabbed and rendered useless with one punch, then thrown over a counter. His mate ran for it.

The police were called, and by now my aunt was there. Apparently they asked him what he had to say for himseff.

He quietly replied ' The other cowson got lucky.'

He wasn't arrested.
By:
boxingthefox
When: 09 Feb 10 21:40
Lol, nice one BC,GN mate.
By:
Big Charlie
When: 09 Feb 10 21:46
'night Foxy.
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