Trying to lose weight is really demoralising

why are they mistakes?

exercise + diet = weightloss?

Isn't it more the type of food rather than quantity?

what do u weigh??
what height are u ?
wha age are u ?

EAT LESS MOVE MORE BUT IF U GOT FAT IN THE 1ST PLACE YOU PROBABLY STILL EATING WRONG FOODS BUT JUST LESS.

rather not post my weight tbh, dont wanna be called porker etc :D
im 5'11 and 28

my most successful diet came when I ate the MOST.

i ate almost constantly, snacking and big meals, did 2 hours exercise a day.

when i ate less I found I put on weight as well :0

must be the metabolism, goes against everything you read pretty much.

you called claim the g flux diet supports eating more, but it coincides with doing more exercise, the truth is, i did the same amount of exercise, ate 3 times more, and dropped weight more with the latter.

go figure.

could* not called

I've lost over 3 stone since June last year, all I've done is walk more (alot more - up to 2 hours a day) reduce sugar in coffee/tea, eat MORE veg, drink flavoured water instead of fizzy juice, and reduced the crap (choc, biscuits etc).
Still have 3 meals a day, I still snack but the weight dropped off.

get one thing straight,
DIETS DO NOT WORK, FACT!!
when u understand that u may have a chance..

Eat 1,200 calories a day. You'll lose 1-2lbs a week. Sorted.

Try doing it without calorie counting and you'll probably fail.

your the 2nd person i have heard say something like that angela, that you should eat all throughout the day.

true. diets don't exist. eat what you want, when you want. thats what i do. just make sure you exercise.

there is always an early door plateua so the fact youve not dropped weight over the first month isn't a massive concern. keep going. u must feel healthier?

burn more calories than you consume hard work is not easy

walking is no fkn good either,
unless ur down on your knees gasping for air after a session ur wasting ur time..imvho
about 3/4 days of that a week, keep them small walks for ur 'days off'

You're meant to eat something every 2-3 hours even if it's just a snack to increase metabolism.

1,200 calories a day! honestly not the way forward.

i trebled that to around 3,000 a day, sometimes more, and lost more weight doing the same exercise.

limiting yourself to 1,200 calories a day just isnt possible (okay it is, i did it for a period of 3 months) but it just isnt worth it.

food is a very important part of my life, i love it, and was estatic to find on a 3,000+ (more than RDA) I lost more weight doing the same amount of exercise.

i think its to do with metabolism and bowel movements.

my body works better with constant nourishment, and as such i lost more weight that way. i think your body type may be similar.

yeah there must be something to that diet, ive been a 32 inch waist all my adult life and i eat about 4-5000 calories a day (so the other half loves to remind me).

makes a difference if you dont eat rubbish, dont think ive had a bag of crips in the past 15 years, only really eat chocolate about christmas, not because i want to lose weight but because they taste like boiled baby**s and make me feel tired

i dont normally walk, the only exercise i normally get is playing football with a few mates on a sunday(and work)
so i thought an extra 5 hours worth of walking a week, over 3 weeks would have at least a small result..

i am really enjoying walking(its only cos car has broken) I did think i felt better until i stepped on the scales for the first time today since i started :(

eat healthy and often
try and cut down on wheat, cut out gravys(forever,bye bye)...
train hard and often but get to love it, cause it never ends.. its a life choice

The eating regular thing is ideal but you have to be really anal about it. A pro bodybuilder, for example, will eat may 8-12 meals a day. Seriously, every hour they'd have some food. It keeps your metabolism high and so you burn more overall. It's also why doing exercise first thing in the morning helps as it fires up your metabolism and then it stays higher for the next 3-4 hours so you burn more while doing fa.

muzza, dont be downbeat, keep doing it, it will drop off. we've long discussed and studied this. i'm a big believer that mass will often be put on in the early stages as certain body types will often bring stored dangerous body fats to the exterior of your body, i cant remember what this process is called. often this will lead to the body type gaining weight and feeling fatter. but thats just the top of the hill. keep up the work and this dangerous fat will fall off your body. i implore you to carry on.

if i went for a run i'd probably have a heart attack after half a mile

take up ??
football
squash
racketball
yoga
pilates
circuts
anything that gets u out of the house in the evenings to keep u fit and active
meet new people, get new ideas ect ect..

i lost weight eating half a loaf a day and several potatoes and nuts. keep walking. trust me.

i dont have gravy, makes me feel sick anyway


an aussie friend of mine said she is doing a protein free diet and she is losing loads of weight, dont think i would want to do that though reading what protein does for your body etc

i will carry on with this for a while(dont have a car so no choice )

angela once again your talking sh*t eating more will not make him lose weight you crazy guy

Andy Murray 05 Feb 15:16


if i went for a run i'd probably have a heart attack after half a mile

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we all did,
nobody can run big distances at the begining..
today1k
tomorrow1.5k
ect
ect

if there was a fatties football team i'd sign up, but i'd just be a liability to any other team :D

wrong p4p.

please explain how you can possibly lose weight by eating more please

hundreds of case studies, myself being one of them (if youd bothered reading)

so no proof or reasoning yet again.


'stats can be created to prove anything'

Andy Murray 05 Feb 15:19


i dont have gravy, makes me feel sick anyway


an aussie friend of mine said she is doing a protein free diet and she is losing loads of weight, dont think i would want to do that though reading what protein does for your body etc

i will carry on with this for a while(dont have a car so no choice )
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1.01 u fail andy, sorry m8
i can read lads like a book :(

andy you should join a sports club or a gym. or even go for a run everyday for a week and then see how good you feel

Andy Murray 05 Feb 15:16
if i went for a run i'd probably have a heart attack after half a mile

GO FOR A RUN !

:)

its ok, story of my life :(
I dont think i could do running outside, worried people would laugh at me

WORKED for me

there are no stats to suggest a calorie intake exceeding calories burnt should lead to weight loss

so go figure (imbecile)

I guess you should say that to all the morbidly obese people in america who cant keave there houses 'its ok you will lose weight just keep eating and you will have that 6 pack in no time' dont talk on subjects you know nothing about.

find a 'course' that you can measure in your car so you know how far you are running / walking.

I found one that was roughly 4 miles in distance and formed a square ........... even if you run and then walk you'll be surprised how your time will improve

go running at a time when no people are around.

Andy Murray 05 Feb 15:29


its ok, story of my life
I dont think i could do running outside, worried people would laugh at me

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go and talk to a councellor,

p4p, you clearly know nothing. different body types, different solutions. it worked for me and others, so your clearly crying as you've been disproven. what a prat.

your useless you clearly a fat guy who claims its due to his metabolism and lack of exercise and bad diet have nothing to do with it. enjoy heart diseases at 45.

it's amusing how, no matter how innocuous the thread, people on the forums end up arguing :D

Did you actually eat more calories Angela or just more food? There's a huge difference.

You could eat somethings 24/7 and not put on a pound, likewise you could eat other things once a week and become an American.

i literally wouldnt last 2 minutes worth of running(jogging?)

i'll see how long i last in the morning though. When im totally out of breath should i just stop? or rest and then carry on? or just revert to walking :D

I thought walking was good for you

walking is pointless really unless your huge. go for a 2.5 mile run and when you cant go no longer walk until you get your breath back and go again but always try to complete it so the next time you go again you will notice the improvements and you'll run it easier.

All diets are rubbish.

The only way to lose weight is to burn more calories than you consume on a consistent basis

Just run for a minute, walk for a minute. Repeat for 20 mins.

Do it again a few days later. It'll be easier. After a few times try doing 25 minutes. Then maybe 30. Then jog for 2 minutes and walk for 1 minute.

walking is fkn usless, do u listen??
run till u can run any more, then walk till ur breathing is back then run again, till u feel sick

thankyou bigH

GranpaChook.
is spot on...

Walking actually burns more fat than running due to the lower intensity of it so you can supply the energy from fat rather than glucose.

Walking to lose weight is less effective though as your overall calorie usage will be far greater with running.

i was listening, i just made a comment that i thought walking was meant to be good for you

i do appreciate all the advice given, i'll give the jog/walk combo a go

have u money?
hire a personal trainer, go with a buddy, there getting cheaper, a good one will save ur life, it did mine

i find it really easy to lose weight, if i put the effort in, it's keeping it off thats the hard part. getting your heart rate up is the key, so sprinting in short burts is great for burning fat. my weight has been like a yo yo the last two years, with 22 stone been the most and 14 being the lease

grandpa you have got to be kidding me. walking does not burn more fat than running! I can not believe what I am reading on this website.

you need to be properly counting calories, including alcohol, you don't get that for free, what is your alcohol consumption? you're not really burning many calories with the walking, fair enough if you're enjoying it, but you'd be better off with 10 minutes higher intensity exercise, would "energise" you for the day, esp if you have a generally sedentary lifestyle.

i wish i could afford one, unfortunately im just a peasant

i dont drink any alcohol, maybe have a smirnoff ice or 2 at christmas, dont like beer and getting drunk doesnt really interest me

Fatly veiled something or other thread.

try turning the central heating down too.

post yer weight andy??

It does. Notice I said it doesn't burn more calories overall. But the more intense the exercise the greater the need for quicker energy, hence sugar and glucose. The less intense exercise still requires energy but at a much reduced rate so the body can save the sugar and use fat instead.

I'm not saying to walk instead of run to lose weight quicker. That's madness as you say. Was just pointing it out, bored is all sorry :p

i agree, i wouldd't be embarresed

sorry, agreeing with oddbean there

i'd really rather not say

caffeine's a reasonable appetite suppresant, if you're not fancying forking out for pills, keep some of that coke zero in the fridge, stop eating when your no longer hungry, ie before your're full, and don't eat stuff juct cos it's on your plate.

fair enough andy, i remember weighing myself and i thought it would be around 17 or so, and it was 21.9, jesus, that was a muck feeling

each pound of fat you put on =3500 calories....try protein diet for couple of weeks.....

what pills are you talking about? pro plus caffeine pills?

funny u should say that, i really dont feel like im the weight i am, i see people on tv who weigh less and they are like hobbling because they are so fat(look like they weigh more than me)..

3500calories per lb, that sounds awful :(

a lot of what you say andy, is dictated by you not wanting to get outside your comfort zone. when you say things like 'id have a heart attack after 2 mins' and 'people will laugh at me', you are just making excuses for yourself, so you dont have to go through with anything.

proper, decent exercise has to hurt, walking for an hour a day is something most people do without thinking. the problem is, your brain is adverse to hurt - you need to somehow twist it in your mind so that you crave the exercise, that every run/weight session/whatever is a hugely positive thing, thats getting your body to where you want it to be. otherwise, you will just have a mantra through your head - 'must stop, this hurts' - every 2 secs, which is almost impossible to overcome.

qandy , if u cannot post ur weight(to a room full of dudes ull never meet)
u have bigger problem than just that, imvho...

doctor might perscribe you some appetite suppresants or you can buy Alli if the guy in the chemist thinks you're a fat ** (1.01 by the sound of it ;) )

if i do manage to lose weight i'll happily post what my weight was before :)

you are probably right with most of what you said bacon, i always hear people say when they start getting into exercise they cant get enough of it, would be good if they had those running tracks round here like they have in america

i was 14 stone 7lb 18 months ago.....and i still do weights couple times a week....now 15-12lb....could be stopped smoking ..or my love of wine...we all seem to be drinking more .

I don't see how doing weights a couple of times a week is gonna make you lose any weights?

Andy.are you a fat fcker...

Eat less.No sh1t (Processed food etc) Keep up the exercise.

Angela Rebecchi 05 Feb 15:33
p4p, you clearly know nothing. different body types, different solutions. it worked for me and others, so your clearly crying as you've been disproven. what a prat.

Angela, are you related to that Toadfish off Neighbours?

punter; weights burn calories.....old chap.

creditor, doing weights does not burn very many calories old chap

builds muscle right enough, but doesn't burn very many calories

The more muscle you have, the easier it is to burn calories off mate

what if you have far too much muscle, like me, what are we supposed to do?

undie101 05 Feb 19:59
The more muscle you have, the easier it is to burn calories off mate

He doesn't want to be a muscle man, he wants to lose weight and that is not by doing weight-lifting

You don't have to be a muscle man

undie101

crediter 05 Feb 16:24
i was 14 stone 7lb 18 months ago.....and i still do weights couple times a week....now 15-12lb....could be stopped smoking ..or my love of wine...we all seem to be drinking more .

what's written in bold seems that he is implying that doing weights make you lose weight.......

what I am saying is, doing weights does not make you lose weight, and it does not burn fat on the same scale as say...running

Six hours of running a week.

No excuses.

End of.

i was impying drinking wine and stopping smoking ..put on MY weight...really ...so doing weights will cause a weight loss combined with some aerobic workout...nap dunnit ...many times.

isn't the latest school of thought that short very intensive excercies are the best way for losing weight? So work very hard for a min, then relax for 30sec-1min then go again. As you get fitter try and work for longer, but 20-25min of very intensive work 2-3 times a week is a good start.

Wouldnt want to put anyone off any type of excercise though if they are overweight going for a walk every day will make a difference to your general well being.

isn't the latest school of thought that short very intensive excercies are the best way for losing weight? So work very hard for a min, then relax for 30sec-1min then go again. As you get fitter try and work for longer, but 20-25min of very intensive work 2-3 times a week is a good start.

Wouldnt want to put anyone off any type of excercise though if they are overweight going for a walk every day will make a difference to your general well being.

my two penneth andy is that you should bite the bullet and go running one day this week and fek what people think.. As hard as you can for just 5-7 minutes. You manage to play football and you're only 28 so you should be able to manage it. Check it out on google map or something and you will probably have covered 1km. You will feel better after it and hopefully it will burn some kind of competitive instinct inside you so that next time you will want to run 1.5k or 2k and maybe do it even quicker. If you persevere (and it is easier to persevere if you enjoy it) then you will soon be doing 5k and 10k and, if you really want to, half marathons and full marathons.

I realise this is just one more piece of advice amongst loads of people giving advice, but like i say, that's my theory. Good luck.

Dylan is right. I've just come back from a week at a boot camp and the army PTI's said that just walking/jogging/running at the same pace doesn't do half as much as if you mix it up a bit. Walk for 10 seconds, then sprint for 10 seconds, then jog for 10 seconds. The basterds almost killed me I tell ya!

Andy,

I've taken up this jog/walk/jog training and lost a stone since xmas.
Jogging raises the heart rate, and as long as the walking stretch isn't too long, it doesn't get time to lower before you are off jogging again.

I also cut out the booze (except at if going down pub to watch sport) and cheese and limited the amount of bread I eat - surprisingly calorific stuff.

As long as you keep to under 2500kcal a day and exercise an hour every other day the weight will drop off.

fatty :D

only teasing, i'm fat as well ;\

ah but walter mitty can be slim tomorrow!

too right punter, exercice little and often is the key

dont over do it as you'll more than likely stop doing it

don't worry about it too much

speaking of weight loss, anyone seen peter jackson lately, he lost 70 pounds.
good luck andy, i know what it's like to be over weight, i had to lose 7 stone to get down to a decent weight, but it was the best thing i've ever done,