Does anyone make money on here, lets share our info?

if you can turn #2 into #4 you can turn 20 grand into 40 grand its the same formula the same maths its just that people get nervious and confused when the place a 20 grand bet,and guess what?The horse or the football team do not care  weather you have 2 quid or 20 grand on them.

It would take a long time brassneck, as I said, getting on is the hard part.

I get involved on the horses almost 7 days a week c-c. I have to supplement my meagre pensions.

For horses go to the meeting,most of the bookies will take a 50 grand bet provided you give it to him early,bookies have an unwritten rule with each other that they share the big bets if there is ten on the line you  can be sure it will be divided,but the guy you give it to will back it back with the others at a bigger price and make money for himself weather the horse wins or loses.if you are placing 50 grand on betfair on a horse and you are sure it will win it is cheaper to charter a private plane or heli to go to the meeting that to pay the commission on the bet.

Thanks for the tip but I'm mainly an arber. As my mate Mitch said above I don't know one end of the form book from another. Slippy may knock it but it's made me 200k roughly in 12 years. Not a fortune but as I said above, I have to supplement my pensions.

cats cost a fortune.

Kenny do you get info or is your success based on value betting?
Brassneck bookies must have changed since I used to do a book.
Admittedly it was at the Scottish gaffes but knowing a few of the English boys not many would take £50k

In reply to kennyman - the horses.

when you are in the big league you don't worry about expences(and I am not trying to be brash,or boasting,its just once apon a time I worked for someone who happened to be in such a league)

Was typing whilst you posted that Kenny. Must be really difficult to get anything on surely given the bookies thoughts on arbers.

That's why I tell you that pp will take a serious bet because it is given to david p straight away.

Cheers dewey. akabula, I've been with loads of tipsters over the years, mainly to test if they're any good as a trading tool. Currently I'm only with Timeform Jury. Very unlucky today. My mate got me £200 on at 6/1, went off about 3/1 (10p r4 only), made about £105 on the trade and the bookie's bet. A s it happened it won the race (3-10) which didn't really matter, but the race was voided because of a false start.

Why not put your knowlege (?) up on here then Kennyman - then we might believe you......................

Surprisingly the £200 was with Corals in the shops who are usually pretty dire at accepting a decent wager (2 shops £100 each)

Oh yeah....of course!

Why would I be bothered if anyone on here believes me, dewey? What's the point of lying?

I wrote to one of you friends the other day,jamie st,he has not replied to me yet but I give him some good advice to take on board,he is a good tipstar in my opinion ,and is on his way to the top.

Didn't say you were kenny - I'm not bothered either but where's the evidence that you're not just the usual b**ls*i**er.  It's o.k. saying so - how do we know?

why do you not lay a few bets on here and give them to your bookie to keep the account in arrears,its dosent cost that much and most times you can wangle football prices to your advantage,make a few quid while keeping your bookie happy with a losing account that you can use for strokes when you need it.

You don't lol. But if you will give a tenner to the cat's charity I'll post my p/l for the last 3 months.

Dewey the last thing you would do if successful is advertise your bets.
Going back a right few years I used to get info from a couple of stables.
It was all dynamite cos you knew it was going to get backed off the boards.
Tepylon, Kamal Sediqui and All the Queens (or Kings maybe) Men were 3 of the biggest gambles.
All opened approx. 33s on course and between 5s and 12s in the shops with returned SPs 11/8, 13/8 and 7/2.

Cheers brasneck, but at my age I don't really want any complications. As long as I have bookies accounts  I'm ok.

Not infallible though Kamal got pipped on the line by a right loud one. The other 2 won.

Willie McFarland (ex jockey) used to make a big dent in the markets akabula, which is all you need to profit really. Went off the boil though and his selections stopped getting supported, but he was dynamite for a good while.

akabula/kennyman - Wish I had £1 for everytime I've heard that!

allyou have to do is take a few 50 and 100 pound bets in tight games and then place them with your bookie,if he is answering the phone to you and you are chucking 50 and 100 pound bets everyday he is not going to pull you up on a bet in the middle of the day(the real one)and you don't care if the others win or lose,its just betfair v the high street bookie.

true ... but you have to operate within your bank.

If you had a bank of 20 grand and you staked 20 grand there's a risk of losing it all.

My biggest bet was on the 1997 gen election £3500 at odds on ... I don't remember the price.
I put it on using cash at Sandown as you could avoid betting tax by betting on course with a Lads rep ........ there was some trouble collecting it from a shop and I arranged to collect it at Brighton racecourse ... the Laddies rep either wouldn't or couldn't pay me although it was all arranged on the phone.

When I rang to complain they apologised and I think I was sent a cheque.
I was cheeky and asked for a freebie to compensate me for my trip to Brighton ... the result was an invitation to Sandown on a day when Persian Punch won. The place was buzzing with info esp about Persian Punch sp 3-1. Richard Fox was one of the speakers- he gave us 2 winners - .. Thommo was another - embarrassingly he asked everyone to kiss the lady on their left [ my wife was on my right - lucky escape ]
I was sat between Lenny Lawrence (manager of Luton Town at the time) and some guy who had sold a chain of betting shops, in the East End I think he told me they were called Prince. I'd never heard of them .. and the conversation died a little ... as the only bet I've ever had in the East End was on betfair on a visit to Pumphol's shoeshop. Pumphol let me use his account and returned the tenner plus the winnings (7-2) .. but that was much later than May 1997 when my trip to Sandown took place.

I later found out he was Michael Tabor http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Tabor

And in league cup matches you can lay teams at 2/5 on here that are much bigger in the bookie coupon when the teams are announced.the fa cup is the same.and the champions league is the best along with the Europa league,when the team has qualified you get serious differences in prices.and you can make a small fortune in trading.

.. and when the news gets out there's a flu epidemic in Arbroath and they are resorting to playing the manager's 16 year old nephew and his aunty.

Exactly.

but the money will be on the wrong side of the screen

maybe once you have your money on you could drop a few hints / info on here.

Though football is something I rarely get involved in.

I used to arb on Pricewise but it became too difficult getting on .. I once made over £200 on a horse which lost as the price changed so much I was able to 'overlay' it for that much.
I would have made the same if it had won.

I share enough..

I sat in a room a few months back and the guy beside me got a phone call asking would he take a 100 grand for Liverpool at 1/1.the guy beside me said he would ring him back in 5 minutes.he then made a phone call to another bookie and got 6/5 about Liverpool winning.liverpool won.

The guy that had the bet was a well known footballer.

curious-cat
     26 Aug 14 01:43   









maybe once you have your money on you could drop a few hints / info on here.

Though football is something I rarely get involved in.

I used to arb on Pricewise but it became too difficult getting on .. I once made over £200 on a horse which lost as the price changed so much I was able to 'overlay' it for that much.
I would have made the same if it had won


You could do that with 90% of bthe puicks I send out daily,they are smashed off the boards day in day out,as kennyman can tell you even todays,i send them out the night before and even give precidted eps..

You'd have to be the worst punter of all time to not make money on my picks its impossible to lose...

Confirmed

Where does thegiggilo post his tips?
He is a tipster I hear a lot of people praise, but I haven't seen him post any on the Betfair forum.

He doesn't. You have to smile sweetly to him.

Mind you, if you have any betting accounts they'd soon be knackered.

Would a nice grin do?

I've sent you a pm with a picture of the cat as promised kenbo. Sorry it's late. Let me know if you've got it.

Pm got Kenny. Any other pictures of pu55ies are most welcome! Cheers.

PMs expected for that smile Giggsy.

I don't smile often.

Kenny, would your p+l not show heavy losses being an arber?   Hence no reason to post your P+L

CMAT knows!

I know someone who makes about £70k pa on here, mainly from tips he receives...


















he's a barber

very good kenbo. :-)

I know what you mean james, p/l could show a biggish loss, biggish profit or something in-between. Depends on results of course. As it happens last 3 months have shown a large profit on here, but a loss with bookies which obviously is not reflected on here. dewey wouldn't have realised that. lol

Saying nothing! Hopefully your next 3 months betfair P+L will be showing a big loss then

Kenny, saw this a bit earlier and thought you would like this.

http://faithtap.com/1638/unlocking-the-door-for-the-friendly-lion/

That's wonderful Slippy. This is btter though from the same site.

http://faithtap.com/1471/7-kittens-moving-in-unison/?a=1

I don't want to look at anything bitter kenny mann, not at the moment. I've had a very distressing week as it is. I'm fairly unshakable but I don't want to watch bad stuff right now so I won't click on that link.

It's a good site Slippy, watching all the videos.

You're not spelling' any more. lol

Smashed them todaya few more dozen accounts ruined for ya kennymangutted about big baz would've been monster treble can't be greedy though!!

Don't rub it in!!!

Big Baz was also timeform jury, i've no accounts left that are worth anything.

nice to see mitchell back

You don't need them with my predicted sps as I told you today with the last winner at lingfield it would be 2/1 tops you could've kept backing it allday on betfair and as for the winner at ffos las 5.4 it drifted to,these layers are nuts long time since I've seen value like that.Never got the chance to lay a penny off in running as it had the race won 6fs out,absolute cracking day,you don't need accounts with some of the picks I have if I'm getting the sp right you can still back them on here...

If only you charged for your services

If I had any sense I would get 200 on a subscription service and charge them 2k a year,which would be doing them a favour!!

If you 'd have given more than a week to adjust to your random Lucky 15 hotshots before deleting me from obscurity
I'd probably have bought you a 6 x pack of those Worlds greatest beers from Lidl & sent them 2nd class Recorded direct to you , very nice btw , you wouldn't even wanna drink them

true giggilo.

Thanks Capt

Still can't explain the one at ffos las I sent it oit at 5/2 originally I thought it would go off 6/4 probably jf,it then drifted to 3/1 I sent out again then I sent out 4.2 on betfair,i then backed it at 4.6,4.8,4.9,5.0 and 5.2 with intention of laying some off in running.The race was won 6fs out,who are these layers they must be absolutely clueless and it wins as I thought by half the track,the interesting thing is this only happens to me 1/500 bets..

I wonder what happened to gogoidle ?

it wins as I thought by half the track

Reach The Beach 5 lengths ? 7/2sp opened 3/1  dist 1m and a half

Adam Kirby (jockey) 'the ground helped ... she loved it'
described as a fine tactical ride in the RP .... made all, increased pace 2f out

I posted a smile on the previous page, but appear not to have received any personal messages.

I was going to put beans on my toast as well.

Kennyman did u get the 9s,wins half the track!!!

Another did you get the 9/2 kennyman sp 5/2..

call me a taxi
     29 Aug 14 14:08   


I posted a smile on the previous page, but appear not to have received any personal messages.

I was going to put beans on my toast as well


When the aw season starts, I maybe putting up bets night before on a forum that anyone can access there will be a couple of previews a week as well if I get time of whole cards.

I could be skint by then.

The money I put on won't hurt your prices.

had a week off giggilo. lot on my plate. should be ok from tomorrow, though, thanks. Although will be bfair only till i get a new set.

gigs...........hows the placepots going

On the few I've done won fortunes,have sent them out as well but not really doing many as so many meetings and ground fcasts are generally wrong so unless I know for certain that is either gd/fm or soft ground I don't bother guessing.
I went through a patch in june where I had about twenty bets in a week and everyday the going was the opposite to fcast,it was unbelievable,the goings are constantly wrong to some degree I would say in 80% of the meetings.
Beverley on Saturday was according to RP gd/fm yet the times showed it was gd at best probably some soft in there so pearl secret and oldjoesaid were bets if you were sure of the going,yet all the punters were backing gd/fm horses..

Just waiting for the aw season to start as I do the placepots everyday,the Wolves surface is perfect and forms already working out from previous form on previous poly and wolves surface it's going to be as good as swell..

kenny mann
     31 Aug 14 18:30   


had a week off giggilo. lot on my plate. should be ok from tomorrow, though, thanks. Although will be bfair only till i get a new set



How far did the prices CAVE in,were they AVAILABLE don't GENERALYSEwhat aday who needs books!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

cardifffc
     31 Aug 14 18:34   


gigs...........hows the placepots going


You still doing them fella..

Off work til Thursday, sadly, giggilo. Looks like I missed another good day!

What do you mean off work don't understand.On a right roll unlucky today as well close to full house 8/1 winner,15/8 winner,14/1 3rd and 5/2 2nd hughes gave it a pathetic ride and advised multiples did you see the returns from those lucky 15s and 31s considering nr and 2nd paid very well.

off work means I'm having a break and have lots of other things to do.

I've been unwell for 2 weeks and still manage to get bits and pieces done,thats why I very rarely take a break unless on holiday as I hate missing the form especially in the summer and atumn as there's so much to catch up on..

Respect giggilo for still doing it all these years, you must put some hours in, I used to do speed ratings it was profitable but the time spent doing it was a killer.

Appreciate you have problems giggilo but I'm an old man. I need break to catch my breath.

got some 10s ta.

Got some 16s and 18s traded 2.18 in running shame it got left,great bet though will settle for it..

Oh good, another one I missed.

Did you get the 11s and 10s on the Admiral!!

Did you get the 11s and 10s on the Admiral!!

Come on Giggsy, throw us crumbs!

I did thanks.

Has this become a thread for telepathist's

I agree with myself on the 2nd September at 18:45

whats going on in here? Oh I see, great thanks .. chow

Has this become a thread for telepathist's

More for aftertimers.

ffs, 365 cut me to online only after 5 days. I blame the giggilo.

never mind, got a new mansion out of them.

Problem is Kenny your need another 137 winners to redecorate

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http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2013/04/10/article-2306673-1936CDC1000005DC-628_964x637.jpg

lol

Only one problem. It's in Bradford inner City. Nobody can understand me.