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Ok so tonight some smart alec decided to hack my account, i was at my pc, i had family over so was briefly side tracked but during this time i watched my account empty, all be it only £14.55 but i was still robbed of my hard earned cash, i contacted betfair and the fraud squad have been notified, i did ask would the money be paid back and i was told no, i am apparently responsible for my own pc and my own account and should anyone want to break in and rob me or any member of betfair its a free for all apparently!
Bit worrying no? ...has this happened to anyone else? how often does it go on? ...any tips or help i would be grateful, feck!
Bit worrying no? ...has this happened to anyone else? how often does it go on? ...any tips or help i would be grateful, feck!
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wish i had £14.55 to lose
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so do i! ...gutted!
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What's your security? Firewall etc?
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i dont have one, they all get hacked eventually, norton, avg you name it they are all **e, but i do scan for viruses weekly using Advanced Care System, or Spybot or Adaware.
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sounds weird.
how was it hacked? doubt anyone could just hack into it. maybe u left password on old laptop or something like that? u could go into my account , then my security , then u can see what time etc u were logged on. then u could search the IP address. do that and see what comes up |
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If you're trawling the internet bareback you're at risk of getting picked off unfortunately, some right sh1ts out there.
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search ip here.
http://tools.whois.net/whoisbyip/ |
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Done that, ps i never write or mask passwords on computers, i never access this site via other pcs only home pcs, i went to my security and two seperate ip addresses came up, 17.50 this evening and 18.11 this evening, both different, it said both were uk, when i googled them one was grimsby the other CA America, i was at the pc at the time and logged in, they sent the money from my betting wallet into the casino and that was that, i dont think i have ever used the casino here let alone know how to put money through, when i check history for the casino it just says 0 ...the money was taken at 18.12 via the USA ip addy
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Thanks will check it now ...
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Hmmm the USA one has just come up Amsterdam 82.5.81.216
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well i wouldn't be at all happy with betfairs response.
you are talking tio some goon in a call centre. few choice words to the right person and as long as its obvious you have been "hacked" i would assume your money will be returned ASAP |
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OrgName: Internet Assigned Numbers Authority
OrgID: IANA Address: 4676 Admiralty Way, Suite 330 City: Marina del Rey StateProv: CA PostalCode: 90292-6695 Country: US 10.70.177.5 |
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the ip address is someone in the uk on NTL or whatsit now , virgin.
inetnum: 82.5.80.0 - 82.5.143.255 netname: NTL descr: NTL Infrastructure - Waltham Park country: GB admin-c: NNMC1-RIPE tech-c: NNMC1-RIPE status: ASSIGNED PA mnt-by: AS5089-MNT source: RIPE # Filtered role: NTLI Network Management Centre address: NTL Internet address: Crawley Court address: Winchester address: Hampshire address: SO21 2QA phone: +44 1633710142 admin-c: MH22007-RIPE admin-c: NR731-RIPE admin-c: CW1083-RIPE tech-c: MH22007-RIPE tech-c: CW1083-RIPE nic-hdl: NNMC1-RIPE mnt-by: AS5089-MNT e-mail: pim@virginmedia.co.uk source: RIPE # Filtered % Information related to '82.0.0.0/11AS5089' route: 82.0.0.0/11 descr: NTL-UK-IP-BLOCK origin: AS5089 mnt-by: AS5089-MNT remarks: report abuse to www.virginmedia.com/netreport +44 (0)1633 710142 source: RIPE # Filtered % Information related to '82.0.0.0/13AS5089' route: 82.0.0.0/13 descr: NTL-UK-IP-BLOCK origin: AS5089 mnt-by: AS5089-MNT source: RIPE # Filtered % Information related to '82.4.0.0/14AS5089' route: 82.4.0.0/14 descr: NTL-UK-IP-BLOCK origin: AS5089 mnt-by: AS5089-MNT source: RIPE # Filtered |
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82.5.81.216 - NTL Infrastructure - Waltham Park
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10.70.177.5 - is private / home network
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did they just gamble the money in the casino? seems bit odd
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1.01 Your missus is a roulette addict.
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Well thats a little more reasuring, i am told the fraud team will contact me tomorrow, so i will wait and see i guess, in all the years i have been here though never heard of this happening before to anyone else
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Guy last week had been hacked too. Betfair closed his account for him
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Funnily enough someone had something similar last week where they were hacked.
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I dont know, the money said tranfered into the casino, then from there i havent a clue how it was used or if it was taken out somehow, i guess or i am hoping betfair can tell me what was done with it
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They suspended my account for a while, then he reopened it so i could give him the ip addresses from my security setting, then i changed the password after scanning and debugging naturally. I will keep my eye on my security now from the "My account menu for a while just to check its done the trick but failing that i will close the account and maybe either open another or go else where depending on the response i get tomorrow from betfair
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It was only to have a bet on the golf the weekend, spose now i have no money to bet with i will pick the winner of golf Lee Westwood fill ya boots!
gutted! |
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Skindog, are you using wi-fi by any chance?
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Yes i use wifi but the main pc i was using at the time is connected direct to my router why?
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If there is any wi-fi connection to your router, whether or not it's being used by you, then you're exposed to anyone nearby who wants to take advantage.
What you've just said is the same as saying "The back door's unlocked but I were only using the front door with a key". Wi-fi is rotten, never use a wi-fi router or every script kiddy in range is into you. |
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i'd guess 1 in 3 households in britain probably has wi-fi now, and 1 in 3 households in britain are not getting their computers hacked.
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Betfair will likely tell you that the bets were made from your IP and if so then it's your problem. Seriously, wi-fi is like putting a phone extension outside on your windowsill. Don't be surprised if some passing drunk uses it to phone the speaking clock in New Zealand.
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One in three houses hasn't got a burglar alarm neither but the burglars can't be everywhere at once. Give them time but, give them time.
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i find your claims hard to believe, but that's not to say i believe wi-fi is 100% safe - it's not.
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Fear mongering (or scaremongering) is the use of fear to influence the opinions and actions of others towards some specific end. The feared object or subject is sometimes exaggerated, and the pattern of fear mongering is usually one of repetition, in order to continuously reinforce the intended effects of this tactic, sometimes in the form of a vicious circle.
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In that case Darren (bet your mates call you Daz or Persil) I won't advise you to lock your doors. I don't want to scare you.
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no worries gally - i'll remember this chat when wi-fi is banned due to it not being safe.
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They used to sell a cigarette "the cigarette that doctors smoke". You can't get it now. Besides, you've no need of wi-fi, buy a couple of homeplugs and sit where you like.
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if you're right, fair play.
but i struggle to believe you know more than millions of other computer users. |
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Darren, old lamb, even YOU know more than millions of other computer users. I won't fall out with you over this, you tell the OP that his back door is locked and I tell him it's banging in the wind. Two opinions well meant.
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Yer i know about routers if they are unsecured and to be fair mine is so i am asking for trouble, but having said that i think if you secure them as most seem to be around by me they are hard to pass surely? ...they are all encripted! and i would guess ur average joey aint going to hack it ....earlier on i left the pc and i had my nephew use my account and try and download bearshare of all things and then some stupid smily faces thing to my desktop so i am not sure if that how they got in but in general i never download stuff always careful using dodgy websites and also dodgy software, i scan each week and debug and i have used every antivirus and firewall in the land but they all get beat by viruses, eventually i mean who knows these large companies trying to get us all to buy virus software, how do we know they aint paying some kid to beat it or hack it so we then have to keep paying for upgrades? ...allegerdly i might add and that is only what i have heard not a direct quote from my lips LOL
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Mr Gallivanter i'm not agreeing, or disagreeing - i'm just not believing.
maybe it will take me to get hacked to believe (that's not a challenge by the way!). |
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ah unsecured, that's a different story.
that's like giving wayne rooney an open goal. |