Hussain the burglar basher freed

It`s a tale of our times, when criminals are often given more sympathy and protection than victims.

My instinct is to say tough sh1t to the burgular, so I`ll stick with that.

sorry for not being all understanding and touchy feely on this one

The Cricket bat though has been sentenced to death.

Have to agree with nononsense on this occasion

panglima, I heard it was to be Knighted!!

someone tries to burgle me id happily smash their brains against the wall with a golf club. couldnt give a sh1t what the liberal do-gooders think about it.

If Anyone came into my garden or broke into my garage i'd smash them across the back with a 9 iron, If they broke into my house, they'd dissapear.

Must be a golfing thing - several ladies tried to creep into Tiger's bedroom and he punished them severely with his wood.

"The force of the blow was so hard that it broke the bat into three pieces."

They don't make bats like they used to.

did he take it back to argos for a refund?

Is cunnybobbler Mrs Tiger Woods?

we are such a soft @rse country sometimes, in certain other countries where rime rares are much lower, the burgular would have been stoned to death or dragged through the streets by his goolies

# crime rates

Bloody indians with their illegal cricket bats that are too wide.

I bet they polished one side of his head while picking at the other side with a bottle cap.

Law 'would collapse'

Munir Hussain and his wife and children returned from their local mosque during Ramadan to find intruders wearing balaclavas in their home.

He feared for their lives as their hands were tied behind their backs and they were forced to crawl from room to room, the court has heard.

He made his escape after throwing a coffee table and enlisted his brother Tokeer in chasing the offenders down the street, bringing Salem to the ground.

Trial judge John Reddihough said Munir Hussain's family had been subject to a "serious and wicked offence", but that he had carried out a "dreadful, violent attack" on Salem as he lay defenceless.

He added: "If persons were permitted to take the law into their own hands and inflict their own instant and violent punishment on an apprehended offender rather than letting justice take its course, then the rule of law and our system of criminal justice, which are the hallmarks of a civilised society, would collapse."


These guys went too far...they are worse criminals than the Burglars....

fair play to the bloke, why should he have stood for that?
in my opinion he was way too nice about it, thief got off lightly

B0LL0CKS - It is because of the unlikely lack of reprisals and the flawed justice system in such instances that so few burglars are deterred.

i agree that they needed some kind of punishment. To set a precedent that violent acts of vigilantism would go unpunished would create huge legal difficulties in the future. And lets face it - the crciket bad spit into 3 pieces, thats pretty hard to do (unless id already had it for a season) and the guy got brain damage - seems like a bit over the top!

The Leopard 20 Jan 11:39

These guys went too far...they are worse criminals than the Burglars....

They tied his wife and kids up ffs. Are you fishing?

If not obvious,that was to the last line of The Leopard's post.

`it`s a bit over the top` is easy to say when sat at home nice and comfy, would you definitely say that if you were in that situation, a violent intruder in your house?

did he shout 4 when he hit the first strike

Nothing is over the top when minutes earlier the geezer had your family tied up threatening to kill them. How anyone can blame the bloke is beyond me. Yes, you might not have done the same but I know plenty who would have dished out more. I just hope the people against him never have the chance to see what they would do in such a situation.

The moral of this story imo is to make sure you Oil your bat at the end as well the start of the cricket season.

Hilary Neville, prosecuting, said: "What started as reasonable self defence by Munir Hussain then turned into excessive force by virtue of a sustained attack by Munir, Tokeer and at least two others."

The family were not hurt by burglars...

i agree, very easy to say. But law has to also act as a deterrent, the concept of 'reasonable force' is an important one. So although we can have a lot of sympathy for them, its important that they are seen to get some kind of punishment - all be it a reduced/suspended sentence. A total acquittal would cause future problems.

The moral of the story is not drinking alcohol is bad for you - if muslims drank he could have just grabbed a bottle of scotch from the side board and cracked the bloke over the head with that, instead of now having to buy a new coffee table. A valuable lesson there for us all I think you will agree.

mittheimp
thats all very common sense, but where is the common sense with many overaged , out of touch judges who hand down pathetic sentences to**bags, that system isn`t working,
things are getting worse over time re crime / law and order.

I'm guessing you just copied and pasted that from the mails editorial?

well, I don`t read the Guardian mate

panglima 20 Jan 11:11
The Cricket bat though has been sentenced to death.
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not before time :D

RH The Lager Khan 20 Jan 11:54
The moral of the story is not drinking alcohol is bad for you - if muslims drank he could have just grabbed a bottle of scotch from the side board and cracked the bloke over the head with that, instead of now having to buy a new coffee table. A valuable lesson there for us all I think you will agree.

pmsl

Would love to know what make the bat was. Mine died at the end of last season and I am in the market for a new one. Would not want Hussains bat if it breaks that easy.

It always seems most of those sympathetic to the criminal in such instances come across as perceiving themselves to be on some sort of higher level of intellect to Joe Public through their self proclaimed ability to see 'the bigger picture'.

Roger The Butler 20 Jan 11:25


Must be a golfing thing - several ladies tried to creep into Tiger's bedroom and he punished them severely with his wood.
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Tigers wood made of Pussy Willow??

[i]HRH The Lager Khan 20 Jan 12:06
It always seems most of those sympathetic to the criminal in such instances come across as perceiving themselves to be on some sort of higher level of intellect to Joe Public through their self proclaimed ability to see 'the bigger picture'.[/

Not sure anyone is sympathetic to the criminal (thats the brain damaged one) rather just think the principle of 'reasonable force' needs to be upheld. If not, then the potential of abuse of using the 'self defence against intruders etc' as a defense becomes very high.

The law does have other concepts which can apply in situations like this such as provocation etc. So while he still committed a crime, and it was not in self defence, he was provoked and therefore his responsibility for it is diminished to an extent and the sentenced will be reduced.

mit - I understand what you are saying, but it seems like a lot of thieves see the reasonable force law as an umbrella for themselves rather than the victims and is more of a safety net than a deterrent. People are facing intruders in their homes and instead of acting on gut instinct to get their retaliation in first, they are thinking of the likes of Tony Martin.

His brother (or cousin) was jailed as well, was he let out ?

reduced to 30 months I think, BC.

There are some hilarious double 'ard geezers on this 'ere thread :^0

Shrewd_dude has it correct IMO

No, he hasn't.

The burglar batterers are asian businessmen, and I'm on their side, no matter what race the burglars were.

However, if the burglar batterer was the owner, white or non white, of a drugs den. and had been robbed of his product and money, I say good luck to the burglars, and would ask if they needed any help.

He really ought to have spent the right amount of time knocking this bat in. Gentle tap tapping for at least 6 hours with a leather ball over the entire face of the bat and the edges. Whacking a burglar about the head is a poor substitute for proper knocking in . Hardly expect the bat to last the season in my view.

Big Charlie 20 Jan 13:07
The burglar batterers are asian businessmen, and I'm on their side, no matter what race the burglars were.

However, if the burglar batterer was the owner, white or non white, of a drugs den. and had been robbed of his product and money, I say good luck to the burglars, and would ask if they needed any help.




Harry Enfield?

lol

Bearing in mind the circumstances can we please refer to the burglar basher as 'Nasser' from now on?

Big Charlie 20 Jan 13:07
The burglar batterers are asian businessmen, and I'm on their side, no matter what race the burglars were

It brings a tear to me glass eye, so it does.

'No drugs, no women' ... BC is old school :^0

is he qualified to play for england?

Sounds like he does more damage with a bat than Alistair Cook does - get him in. He might be more suited to 20/20 than Test cricket though with his aggressive and attacking style of play.

probably got more shots than '2 shot' cook.

especially as one of cooks 2 shots is the leave alone shot!

I can foresee a new niche in the DVD market, taking over from former fat actresses and reality tv chubbers exercise videos:

Ex cricket stars tell show you how to defend your home

im sure it would have a more catchy name than that though..

The safe and steady approach to protection with Geoff Boycott and Chris Tavare goes head to head with Crash! Bang! Wallop! Botham and Lamb crack some skulls!

boycott would just keep blocking the burglars till they get bored and give up

Pieterson would fecking help them load the stuff into a van

its the homeowners fault


if he hadn't been here he wouldn't have been burgled , ,,


simples innit.....

lol Sparky!!

The Ian Bell dvd 'How to stand in front of burglars brandishing a cricket bat yet still look strangely unconvincing' is expected to be on reduced sale quite quickly.

if you rob someone or torture them then you can expect to be killed imo if they catch you

them's the rules and they should have clubbed the guy harder

utter nonsense to expect someone whose family has been tied up and terrorised to stop chasing the burglar when he flees out of the front door. the law really is an ass. still can't believe the jury convicted him.

WELL IT LOOKS LIKE A BIG MAJORITY ON THE SIDE OF MR HUSSAIN, WHO CARRIED OUT THE ATTACK ON THIS PIECE OF 5HIT......SO IT SHOWS, HOW OUT OF TOUCH THE JUDGES ARE , AND THAT THE LAW NEEDS TO BE CHANGED....ROLL ON THE TORIES..

What are the Tories' proposals on criminal justice?

To privatise it.

mafeking 20 Jan 15:17


utter nonsense to expect someone whose family has been tied up and terrorised to stop chasing the burglar when he flees out of the front door. the law really is an ass. still can't believe the jury convicted him.



That is the scary bit. To think that they can get 12 people capable of handing down a guilty verdict.

Maybe there should be an exclusion zone, ie. 2 miles around your house. I estimate that for many people this would equate to 10-15 minutes of chasing time.

You could therefore be legally entitled to chase and batter the burglar to a pulp inside that zone as you could reasonably claim to be uncontrollably enraged and upset about it that soon after the event. However, after 2 miles of chase and having had time to mull things over, it would be expected that you would have come to the conclusion that battering a fleeing person, no matter how much of a b'stard, to brain damaged proportions is in no-ones best interests and that you will catch the bus back home again instead.

Government ads on tv could clarify the situation: Only a fool breaks the 2 mile rule.
Homeowners know they have 2 miles in which to beat the intruder.
The intruder knows he has got to back himself to run some distance to reach sanctuary which may deter some of them.
Team GB may have more competition for the 2012 Olympic long distance running team.

Everyone's a winner. Can I be Minister for Justice?

Bit like the inner ring in limited overs matches, ay Roger

Apparently the burglar was hit for 6.

The drug smuggling slapper who got off the death sentence in Laos has had her appeal rejected.

A pleasing day all round imo.

Can't belive she appealed. Should have been shot.

not really, big charlie. the mental woman that killed her vegetative son had the book thrown at her

HRH The Lager Khan 20 Jan 12:06

It always seems most of those sympathetic to the criminal in such instances come across as perceiving themselves to be on some sort of higher level of intellect to Joe Public through their self proclaimed ability to see 'the bigger picture'.

Yes agree with that . Their own views are devoid of logic though .'All we are saying is you have to use reasonable force' . But they never explain how the calm state of mind that produces reasonable actions can be maintained .

They expect someone to behave 'reasonably' regardless of the circumstances they find themselves in. Well that is an absurd expectation . Clearly the Homeowner has been deprived of his abilty to be reasonable by the attack on him, so the concept is irrelevant.

The Magic Flea 20 Jan 18:59
not really, big charlie. the mental woman that killed her vegetative son had the book thrown at her

Her baby was killed ?

He still committed the crime but yes he was provoked so gets a lesser sentence as its understandable why he reacted that way. If your going to make it legal to beat someone to a pulp because they break into your house when in the eyes of the law housebreaking and theft is not the most serious of crime what reactions are acceptable to more serious crimes. Anybody who gets assaulted at the weekend by being punched is perfectly justified in whipping a kitchen knife out and gutting the offender? Some very naive people on here.

I agree, although would point out the crimes was more than just housebreaking, people were tied up and threatened.

So if faced with an intruder entering your house where your kids and partner are sleeping, not knowing if they are tooled up, drugged up or what is going on inside their heads - you have to make a split second call. Fair enough if they are 100% completely and obviously incapacitated then further physical damage caused can be considered wrong. But when adrenalin is pumping in a 'you or me' situation inside your property then accountability should be minimal.

Yes in this case and that was why he only got a suspended sentence.

How long did the burglars get ?

The guy he clumped with the cricket bat found the justice system such a deterrent that he had 50 previous convictions.

I think that if anyone breaks into your house you should be allowed to keep them

If any of you are Pixie Lott, my front door is unlocked. That's not a metaphor.

and the injuries that prevented him entering a plea in court have apparently not affected him in carrying out more crimes as hussain's brief remarked outside court.

Source?