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outofbounds
20 Jan 10 09:44
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Lets all chase criminals and give them a beating.

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By:
nononsense
When: 20 Jan 10 10:04
It`s a tale of our times, when criminals are often given more sympathy and protection than victims.

My instinct is to say tough sh1t to the burgular, so I`ll stick with that.

sorry for not being all understanding and touchy feely on this one
By:
panglima
When: 20 Jan 10 10:12
The Cricket bat though has been sentenced to death.
By:
Alex69
When: 20 Jan 10 10:15
Have to agree with nononsense on this occasion
By:
boxingthefox
When: 20 Jan 10 10:16
panglima, I heard it was to be Knighted!!
By:
cunnybobbler
When: 20 Jan 10 10:17
someone tries to burgle me id happily smash their brains against the wall with a golf club. couldnt give a sh1t what the liberal do-gooders think about it.
By:
dambuster
When: 20 Jan 10 10:22
If Anyone came into my garden or broke into my garage i'd smash them across the back with a 9 iron, If they broke into my house, they'd dissapear.
By:
Roger The Butler
When: 20 Jan 10 10:25
Must be a golfing thing - several ladies tried to creep into Tiger's bedroom and he punished them severely with his wood.
By:
Gallivanter
When: 20 Jan 10 10:31
"The force of the blow was so hard that it broke the bat into three pieces."

They don't make bats like they used to.
By:
cunnybobbler
When: 20 Jan 10 10:33
did he take it back to argos for a refund?
By:
HRH The Lager Khan
When: 20 Jan 10 10:34
Is cunnybobbler Mrs Tiger Woods?
By:
nononsense
When: 20 Jan 10 10:36
we are such a soft @rse country sometimes, in certain other countries where rime rares are much lower, the burgular would have been stoned to death or dragged through the streets by his goolies
By:
nononsense
When: 20 Jan 10 10:36
# crime rates
By:
Barry Conway
When: 20 Jan 10 10:38
Bloody indians with their illegal cricket bats that are too wide.
By:
Barry Conway
When: 20 Jan 10 10:38
I bet they polished one side of his head while picking at the other side with a bottle cap.
By:
The Leopard
When: 20 Jan 10 10:39
Law 'would collapse'

Munir Hussain and his wife and children returned from their local mosque during Ramadan to find intruders wearing balaclavas in their home.

He feared for their lives as their hands were tied behind their backs and they were forced to crawl from room to room, the court has heard.

He made his escape after throwing a coffee table and enlisted his brother Tokeer in chasing the offenders down the street, bringing Salem to the ground.

Trial judge John Reddihough said Munir Hussain's family had been subject to a "serious and wicked offence", but that he had carried out a "dreadful, violent attack" on Salem as he lay defenceless.

He added: "If persons were permitted to take the law into their own hands and inflict their own instant and violent punishment on an apprehended offender rather than letting justice take its course, then the rule of law and our system of criminal justice, which are the hallmarks of a civilised society, would collapse."


These guys went too far...they are worse criminals than the Burglars....
By:
owl4life
When: 20 Jan 10 10:42
fair play to the bloke, why should he have stood for that?
in my opinion he was way too nice about it, thief got off lightly
By:
HRH The Lager Khan
When: 20 Jan 10 10:43
B0LL0CKS - It is because of the unlikely lack of reprisals and the flawed justice system in such instances that so few burglars are deterred.
By:
mittheimp
When: 20 Jan 10 10:44
i agree that they needed some kind of punishment. To set a precedent that violent acts of vigilantism would go unpunished would create huge legal difficulties in the future. And lets face it - the crciket bad spit into 3 pieces, thats pretty hard to do (unless id already had it for a season) and the guy got brain damage - seems like a bit over the top!
By:
Gallivanter
When: 20 Jan 10 10:44
The Leopard 20 Jan 11:39

These guys went too far...they are worse criminals than the Burglars....


They tied his wife and kids up ffs. Are you fishing?
By:
HRH The Lager Khan
When: 20 Jan 10 10:44
If not obvious,that was to the last line of The Leopard's post.
By:
nononsense
When: 20 Jan 10 10:48
`it`s a bit over the top` is easy to say when sat at home nice and comfy, would you definitely say that if you were in that situation, a violent intruder in your house?
By:
JORDI
When: 20 Jan 10 10:52
did he shout 4 when he hit the first strike
By:
monmore man
When: 20 Jan 10 10:52
Nothing is over the top when minutes earlier the geezer had your family tied up threatening to kill them. How anyone can blame the bloke is beyond me. Yes, you might not have done the same but I know plenty who would have dished out more. I just hope the people against him never have the chance to see what they would do in such a situation.
By:
panglima
When: 20 Jan 10 10:52
The moral of this story imo is to make sure you Oil your bat at the end as well the start of the cricket season.
By:
The Leopard
When: 20 Jan 10 10:54
Hilary Neville, prosecuting, said: "What started as reasonable self defence by Munir Hussain then turned into excessive force by virtue of a sustained attack by Munir, Tokeer and at least two others."

The family were not hurt by burglars...
By:
mittheimp
When: 20 Jan 10 10:54
i agree, very easy to say. But law has to also act as a deterrent, the concept of 'reasonable force' is an important one. So although we can have a lot of sympathy for them, its important that they are seen to get some kind of punishment - all be it a reduced/suspended sentence. A total acquittal would cause future problems.
By:
HRH The Lager Khan
When: 20 Jan 10 10:54
The moral of the story is not drinking alcohol is bad for you - if muslims drank he could have just grabbed a bottle of scotch from the side board and cracked the bloke over the head with that, instead of now having to buy a new coffee table. A valuable lesson there for us all I think you will agree.
By:
nononsense
When: 20 Jan 10 10:58
mittheimp
thats all very common sense, but where is the common sense with many overaged , out of touch judges who hand down pathetic sentences to**bags, that system isn`t working,
things are getting worse over time re crime / law and order.
By:
mittheimp
When: 20 Jan 10 10:59
I'm guessing you just copied and pasted that from the mails editorial?
By:
nononsense
When: 20 Jan 10 11:00
well, I don`t read the Guardian mate
By:
Joe Jordan
When: 20 Jan 10 11:01
panglima 20 Jan 11:11
The Cricket bat though has been sentenced to death.
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not before time :D
By:
JORDI
When: 20 Jan 10 11:01
RH The Lager Khan 20 Jan 11:54
The moral of the story is not drinking alcohol is bad for you - if muslims drank he could have just grabbed a bottle of scotch from the side board and cracked the bloke over the head with that, instead of now having to buy a new coffee table. A valuable lesson there for us all I think you will agree.

pmsl
By:
monmore man
When: 20 Jan 10 11:04
Would love to know what make the bat was. Mine died at the end of last season and I am in the market for a new one. Would not want Hussains bat if it breaks that easy.
By:
HRH The Lager Khan
When: 20 Jan 10 11:06
It always seems most of those sympathetic to the criminal in such instances come across as perceiving themselves to be on some sort of higher level of intellect to Joe Public through their self proclaimed ability to see 'the bigger picture'.
By:
sidthekid
When: 20 Jan 10 11:13
Roger The Butler 20 Jan 11:25


Must be a golfing thing - several ladies tried to creep into Tiger's bedroom and he punished them severely with his wood.
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Tigers wood made of Pussy Willow??
By:
mittheimp
When: 20 Jan 10 11:17
[i]HRH The Lager Khan 20 Jan 12:06
It always seems most of those sympathetic to the criminal in such instances come across as perceiving themselves to be on some sort of higher level of intellect to Joe Public through their self proclaimed ability to see 'the bigger picture'.[/

Not sure anyone is sympathetic to the criminal (thats the brain damaged one) rather just think the principle of 'reasonable force' needs to be upheld. If not, then the potential of abuse of using the 'self defence against intruders etc' as a defense becomes very high.
By:
Shrewd_dude
When: 20 Jan 10 11:21
The law does have other concepts which can apply in situations like this such as provocation etc. So while he still committed a crime, and it was not in self defence, he was provoked and therefore his responsibility for it is diminished to an extent and the sentenced will be reduced.
By:
HRH The Lager Khan
When: 20 Jan 10 11:23
mit - I understand what you are saying, but it seems like a lot of thieves see the reasonable force law as an umbrella for themselves rather than the victims and is more of a safety net than a deterrent. People are facing intruders in their homes and instead of acting on gut instinct to get their retaliation in first, they are thinking of the likes of Tony Martin.
By:
Big Charlie
When: 20 Jan 10 11:56
His brother (or cousin) was jailed as well, was he let out ?
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