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Do tell us why we should be ashamed.
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After seeing the wages these so called charitys directors get, its hard to work out why they deserve anything. Throwing money solves nothing in Haiti. The place was basket case before the quake and more so after. It needs mature political intervention from the 1st world countries, to help the country to its feet. Sadly nothing will change. Throwing 20quid at it when probably at most about 2 quid will actually reach victims may alleviate peoples social conscience. It may alleviate peoples social conscience but will do nothing to solve social deprivation that actually exists today.
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Rachel stevens has had tio postpone her show in Haiti.
Shakin' Stevens has stepped in at the last minute |
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The best thing we could do to places like Haiti is invade. But, no, our liberal establishment thinks we should let them suffer in the name of a freedom they haven't got.
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http://www.timesonline.co.uk/multimedia/archive/00673/TTM162301CC_RGB_ONL_673101a.jpg
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BillKiller 16 Jan 12:39
The best thing we could do to places like Haiti is invade. Read up on Haiti's history, the US backed a disastrous regime there already. |
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I was thinking of colonisation, not installing puppets. Britain tried that in Arabia and look what happened.
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installing puppets has been the way post-war, cheaper, easier, blame-free and it means you can switch sides at a moments notice if necessary
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Saw an excellent film about Haiti a few years ago called "Ghosts of Cite Soleil". Some of the poorest and most poverty stricken people on the planet.
Saddened by some of the attitudes in this thread. |
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Spot on, why don't america just colinise the place.
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Powell was replaced long ago.
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Charity donations should be private and a matter of conscience. This thread might as well be entitled "who has got the biggest k**b?"
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Primarily because the head of Ireland's biggest charity 'GOAL' is a total and utter khunt.
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He is a high earning one Dan ;)
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Yeah, a few tears on the odd tv show does wonders.
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Gene Hackman, you are v sanctimonious in not only starting this thread, but questioning Big Charlie on why he gave nothing. Why did you "only" give £20 then? It's a private matter for anyone, so if by telling the world you gave your £20 makes you feel better, bully for you, but it doesn't give you the right to try to question people re their own charity donations.
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I've given nothing. Its not my problem and certainly not one I can solve.I question why its getting wall to wall (no pun intended) coverage. OK there has been an earthquake.Report that. But multiple TV crews with their cameras fighting for the best close up is required why exactly?
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Someone said the other day that to be born in Haiti (even before the quake) is to have lost out in the lottery of life. By that token, to be born in the UK is to have won in the lottery of life. This thread only confirms that there are some very undeserving winners amongst us.
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As any punter will tell you: A winner,s a winner.
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Well said, Dobbo. We are being manipulated by these news reports. When they rebuild in Haiti, big US companies will be raking it in. The humanitarian effort currently being undertaken makes the US and British forces fighting in Afghanistan look really foolish, ie we are in a country we should not be in, fighting a phoney war, same as when we, ahem "restored democracy in Iraq!"
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2 things:
1. The full quote is, "Charity begins at home, BUT SHOULDN'T END THERE" 2. Leaders, dictators, governments, big business, cameramen and journalists all don't matter. There are 1000's and 1000's of people in pain, anguish, and abject misery that none of us can imagine. They need food, medicine, water and comfort. It doesn't matter where they happen to have been born. ANY amount that gets to them through donations must help. Surely. |
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well said studyform.
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£5
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pathetic i know, but if everyone gave a fiver...
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There are millions of people throughout the World in pain and anguish. This one is this weeks headline and next weeks chip paper. How many cheques do I need to write?
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this was a particularly nasty "incident" though Dobbo, although I take your point.
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While donations are clearly needed, why is it relevant to ask people how much they have given? Charitable contributions are, or should be, a private matter. Gene Hackman was not content with donating £20, he had to also tell us about it, ask how much we have donated, then question Big Charlie as to why he hadn't donated!
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However much you feel comfortable with dobbo, or nothing.
It doesn't matter. A few more people not helped because they're not alone won't make any difference. What is interesting is the - "I never give to charity, it never gets there", attitude. It's like the - "I never give money to beggars, or Big issue sellers, I've heard they earn £800 a week and come to work in a Rolls" attitude. The society we live in is a sick and selfish one. |
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Having worked for a national charity a few years back I am cautious about them all - it doesn't stop me donating and frankly I'd rather give £20 to a Big Issue seller than send a cheque for this bit of business
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Has the Sultan Of Brunai and the other Arab rich oil Sheiks put owt into the kitty ?
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Yes sent a c17 military plane with army doctors, 50tonnes of food and aid.
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ive given 20 a month to unicef since i was 18
they are havin no more |
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i did however stop the 5 i used to give wateraid... i dont know why.
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