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if they had come from Liverpool, Manchester etc and worked in a call centre or something along those lines - they would have been hung out to dry/slaoghtered by the tabloid press within weeks
something not right with whole case though |
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correct. Or worse still, was a single mother.
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sibaroni 14 Jan 11:02
Leaving their children as they did, was appalling. I have sympathy with any criminal who repents of their crime, but I object to the way they are treated as poor blameless lambs by the media. A good analogy would be a parent who killed their child by driving a car whilst p*ssed, and crashing. don't be ridiculous |
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Have you seen the footage the day after the event?..
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I honestly have no clue either way as to what happened to the poor girl. However I am surprised at the level of outrage at the press they are generating. Lets assume that they are 100% innocent (aside from the negligence) then I would be doing the same. You cant criticise a coupel for using all the resources available to them, look at the publicity it generates. Who now doesnt know Maddy's face? I mean there are several threads a week on it, ven on a gambling site. I applaud their efforts (again assuming they r not to blame)
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facts
have you made an error of judgement in leaving your kids at home while at 'having a few drinks and food'? |
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So, 'negligence' aside they've done a cracking job of raising their kids.
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rafa
to a large degree they are to blame.imo |
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i remember when they came back to England about 4 days after she disappeared,there were loads of flowers and teddy bears left outside their house.
she was crying her eyes out yet he did not show 1 single shred of emotion,if that was me i would have been crying my eyes out too i thought even back then that something was not right about the whole thing |
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spyker 14 Jan 10:54
how is going to a restaurant with friends 'out on the lash'? LMAO Yes leaving one's kids home alone (when there is a perfectly good baby minding service) is much more acceptable when one is enjoying food and wine with one's friends (again). i made no comment on leaving their kids i simply asked how going to a restaurant with friends is 'out on the lash' doing either is very bad, altho going out on the lash is worst as you'll be drunk on returning but that wasn't the point |
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i've seen plenty of blokes not cry in bad situations like death
absolutely nothing odd about it shock can hit too |
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do you not realise that restaraunts sell drink as well as food canaryboy?
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and what about the mother who spoke with such dignity on tv straight after her son was murdered
didn't see her cry once |
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correct canaryboy.
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supermarkets sell drink too
i suppose if you say you're going there it must mean you're getting the beers in LOL |
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anyway, is there any evidence they'd been 'out on the lash' when reporting their child missing?
like being off their faces perhaps |
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I hope my gut instinct is wrong on this one
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would you leave your kids at home while going to the supermarket?
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Yeah im not saying they are not to blame sj, what I am saying is that they are trying to do everything they can to make ammends. Its not enough, and it never could be, I think their behaviour was outrageous in leaving the kids, unforgivable, but that doesnt mean they should be lynched for generating all the publicity, which is the only hope they have.
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CotR
Agreed |
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canary
probably wrong use of word by me,but they were drinking that night while they left their kids at home alone,lest no forget about the other two tiny tots as well. |
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it's wrong to leave young kids alone any time
which has nothing to do with going to a restaurant being 'out on the lash' if they didn't have kids would people still say they were 'out on the lash' |
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rafa
as people have pointed out,what do you think the media would have been like if it was a single mother(chav) for want of a better word,had left three kids under 4 home alone while she was out dining at the local indian? |
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yeah they're bad parents obviously
but for leaving their kids alone plenty of parents have a few drinks in the company of their children be it at home or out for a meal doesn't turn them into ****** up thugs |
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would be amazed if parents on here hadn't had a few drink after they'd put their kids to bed too
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canary
i said it was the wrong use of words,but they were still drinking how do we know how much they would have drunk that night? |
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Facts, it is a perfectly foo analogy. I said it a couple of days ago, I will say it again. Two things.
First. When My son was two, I stayed in the same resort. His mum and I went out one night in the week. We went to reception, exactly the same reception the McCanns would have gone to, and asked if they had baby sitters. They did. They had a recommended list of people they had vetted. We were introduced before we hired her, to a middle aged mother. She came and sat for him once we was asleep, it cost around £20. The McCanns had that option. Second. I am divorced not and see my son about the half the time. Imagine the following. When my lad was three, I got him for an overnight stay. I wait for him to go to sleep, and go to the pub which is around 100 yards away. I go back to check him every half an hour say, but carry on all night until I am leathered. If the courts or his mother found out, I would never be able to have him again and would have no cause for complaint. If he had been taken, I would almost certainly go to prison, rightly. These two are no different. |
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well given there are no reports of them being smashed, i'd say they didn't drink irresponsibly
give me some info of them tearing up the restaurant and i might change that view |
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THe amount they drunk sj, is a matter of public record from the bar bill. I can't remember the precise amount of wine, but it was a proper skinful even by chit chat standards.
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yeah they are different because you got leathered
tho that's the only difference |
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canary, if they were sober as judges, what difference would it make. They weren't where they were supposed to be, or hadn't a baby sitter.
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Yeah thats true sj, however that still doesnt mean the Mcanns should be Lynched, People tend to forget that the priority here for everyone should be to find Maddy. Regrettably I doubt very much this will happen. However what slim hope remains is directly related to the publicity generated imo. At the end of the day we know the media has only one agenda.
To summarise. The Mcanns acted shockingly and deserve scorn for that. They are paying the ultimate price and nothing anyone says about them can possibly harm them any further. What slim hope there is remains alive as long as we talk about the, so lets keep doing that. Hopefully this will mean that people tempted to leave their kids in similar circumstances will not do so. |
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tho your home is probably more secure than a resort apartment too
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sibaroni 14 Jan 11:32
canary, if they were sober as judges, what difference would it make. so why are people making an issue of them being on the lash? |
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Sib,
your two 'things' are perfectly correct. But your previous statement likened it to driving a car with kids in it whilst drunk and killing them as a result. That analogy is not comparable imo |
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It makes it worse, because they were less able to deal with any problems that might arise. Sure, having a drink whilst in loco parentis, is hardly unique, and something most of us have done. It is abandoning the kids whilst doing so thats the problem.
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yes it's worse being on the lash
but they were not |
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It wasn't like it was a one off.
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They left their kids alone in a holiday apartment ffs, its been alleged that poor Madeline was dead before they left. If the chief of police alleges that, then it should, as painful as it is, be fully looked into. A few tests would unearth the truth.
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abandoning bit strong
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