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He also spelt Finnished wrong. ;)
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An interesting spread here. Half of the posters appear to agree with me and half disagree. Very pleasing. :)
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I'll see you all tomorrow with another golf ball conundrum.
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DOES THE CANNON HAVE RIFLING CAUSING THE BALL TO SPIN?
IF IT SPINS IT CAN BE AFFECTED BY A SIDE WIND CAUSING IT TO DIP FASTER |
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Will you be paying for the neighbours window?
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I did give you the answer, and the man who discovered the principle in question, AND the principle.
You just didn't recognise it. Now, master Nestor, one hundred lines of 'The MIGHTY Orioles is always right'. By the end of prep, or it's pots and pans for a week. |
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OK I'm convinced -
http://www.dl.ket.org/Physics/Flash/Phy01-Ch07/Ch07-L02.swf I needed to see the equations. Long time since I dabbled in physics. They land at the same time - 2 dead Parisians hundreds of metres apart |
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if you propell the thing fast enough horizontally it would go into orbit, so ignoring air resistance at a reasonable velocity it would take longer to reach the ground due to curvature of the earth.
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In the case of a cannonball the answer would be both fall the same distance in the same time. This is the law of gravity.
However. if a golf ball was lauched horizontally and spinning it would remain airborne longer than a golf ball which was simply dropped. This is because of the aerodynamic effect of the dimples. Theory of flight? |
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Lisa Simpson 08 May 17:51
OK I'm convinced - http://www.dl.ket.org/Physics/Flash/Phy01-Ch07/Ch07-L02.swf I needed to see the equations. Long time since I dabbled in physics. They land at the same time - 2 dead Parisians hundreds of metres apart one of them wouldn't be a Parisian ;) |
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Richard LL 08 May 17:53
if you propell the thing fast enough horizontally it would go into orbit, so ignoring air resistance at a reasonable velocity it would take longer to reach the ground due to curvature of the earth. Nice one :^0 |
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Excellent :)
They should rename the forum. |
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So what is the correct answer?
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With air resistance all objects accelerate in gravity till they reach their terminal speed at which point the force of the air resistance is equal to the force of gravity. The terminal velocity.
Suppose you fired the golf ball at a speed exactly equal to the terminal velocity horizontally and say that terminal velocicy was 200 metres per second. Assuming g~ 10 m/s/s The other golf ball you merely drop. As air resistance is proportional to the speed of the object squared can yuo calculate how far each ball would of dropped 1 second later? If you can you know the answer |
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hits the floor when you drop it obviously.
i mean obviously, we're not in a fkin vacuum are we. |
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am i and honest novice the only ones that live in the real world ffs.
orioles and his b.ollox about physics o level, is exactly that - a physics o level "theoretical" question. we're not in a vacuum. hit it with a golf ball and it will take longer to hit the floor. and i thought it was newton's laws, not galilleos laws, that proved (even though he was wrong) orioles' dubious claims. |
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rob quite remarkably i agree with you :)
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Rob, I hope you're wrong. He just made me do 100 lines for being insolent.
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If I accidentally propelled a ballbearing through my neighbours window, can I get done for criminal damage or do they need to prove negligence on my part?
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Reading this thread you,d plead "just cause"
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I blame the original poster. It was in the name of science.
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v2=u2+2as
s=ut+ 1/2 at2 same time in other words |
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RD, is next to complete the lines, I see.
You need to Google more assiduously, old thing, and bow to the wisdom of Abraham Lincoln! |
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I think we need BF to put a market up.
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With air resitance I think you would need to look at s=ut + 1/2 a t2 - k * u2 where k is a constant measuring the air resistance of the obect in question.
If I am off out soon but to satisfy my intuitive feel the dropped one hits the ground first. I would wish to solve the above but obviously with two dimensions. I like the idea of trying this with two ballons and seeing which one hits the ground first the ballon hit sideways at 2 metres per second. Say one metre per second more than its termainl velocity |
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i am right.
FACT |
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They hit thwe ground at the same time. Air resistance merely slows the horizontal speed. Both golfballs are subjected to gravity at the same time. Therefore they fall in unison. One of them will also have made some horizontal motion but this would not affect it's rate of fall, unless you introduce outside influences eg. rotation.
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honest novice is also right
FACT |
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They did a similar experiment with a hammer and a feather on the moon.
Nobody gave a **c though. |
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The difference between my A grade and your U (sic) and inevitable slide into perpetual ignorance.
I suspect I'm prettier too. |
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depends if the Effil Tower is leaning imo
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Mu Mu, you taking the Pisa?
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Are you taking the pisa, Mu Mu?
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i got an A in a level physics orioles.
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Too slow Nestor! ;)
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Beaten again. The story of my life. :(
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Ironically, this very experiment has been done off Pisa's tower.
Can anyone guess the result? |
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One Italian with a dented head?
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Orioles, What is your answer?
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