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SPOT THE DOG
14 Jan 10 18:56
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had to pay those robbing gits from the Halifax the shortfall in our endowment they sold us 25 years ago.
Then moved the goalposts

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By:
trader pj
When: 14 Jan 10 18:58
ah well, whats 6K when we have betfair to supplement our income?
By:
Hearts.no1
When: 14 Jan 10 18:58
You have paid less in re-payments due to interest rates being lower than projected,you cant have it both ways.
By:
Perseus
When: 14 Jan 10 19:02
Cant agree with that Hearts. Endowments are robbery with larceny. Biggest bull market EVER during the lifetime of mine and STILL looking at a big shortfall. If ever there was a case waiting under the Sale of Goods act these policies are it. They are patently 'not fit for the pupose they were intended' The fact you have to wait 25 years to prove it should be irrelevant imo.
By:
Hearts.no1
When: 14 Jan 10 19:04
^ I believe about 6 years ago there were company's who would claim for you if you suspected you were mislead ?

I do not know if you still can claim.
By:
SPOT THE DOG
When: 14 Jan 10 19:05
mine you, as we paid, i gave them 6k worth of verbal.
By:
punterfleecer
When: 14 Jan 10 19:06
you should ask your bank for a breakdown of what they invested in and what return they got

though I know it's a load of sh!t
By:
punterfleecer
When: 14 Jan 10 19:07
isn't the stock market not bigger than it was 25 years ago?

if so, and you lose money? makes no sense
By:
HarryCrumb
When: 14 Jan 10 19:09
Bear in mind markets have actually lost value over the last decade.
By:
Hearts.no1
When: 14 Jan 10 19:09
punterfleecer 14 Jan 20:07
isn't the stock market not bigger than it was 25 years ago?

if so, and you lose money? makes no sense

^ I'm only asking as I don't know,but is the stock market a gamble ?

ie your shares can go down as well as up ?
By:
HarryCrumb
When: 14 Jan 10 19:10
He hasnt lost money though.
By:
Hearts.no1
When: 14 Jan 10 19:11
6 k ?
By:
orioles
When: 14 Jan 10 19:13
I thought for a horrible moment someone had lost their head and followed my All Weather tips.
By:
SPOT THE DOG
When: 14 Jan 10 19:14
what the mkts did or didn't do is not my problem, we were told there would be x pounds at the end of 25 years plus a nice bonus on top.

if there was any hint of a risk, my wife would not of had a endowment.
By:
HarryCrumb
When: 14 Jan 10 19:20
I didnt think the final sum was guaranteed and you were supposed to monitor them over the years and increase contributions if there was a shortfall forecast?
There are many types arent there. What exactly was yours?
By:
HarryCrumb
When: 14 Jan 10 19:25
Read the frequently asked questions at the financial ombudsmens website that may give you some idea of what you can do and the process to follow.
By:
SPOT THE DOG
When: 14 Jan 10 19:25
ours, we were told was on track, until the newspapers expossed the rip off about 4years ago
By:
SPOT THE DOG
When: 14 Jan 10 19:27
financial ombudsmens waste of time they won't look into it, as the Halifax won't give permission.
By:
punterfleecer
When: 14 Jan 10 19:31
Hearts.no1 14 Jan 20:09
punterfleecer 14 Jan 20:07
isn't the stock market not bigger than it was 25 years ago?

if so, and you lose money? makes no sense

^ I'm only asking as I don't know,but is the stock market a gamble ?

ie your shares can go down as well as up ?


FTSE price in 1985 was 1413

FTSE price in 2009 was 5413

looks like he should have done very well, makes no sense, load of sh!t really

source : http://swanlowpark.co.uk/ftse0604.jsp
By:
HarryCrumb
When: 14 Jan 10 19:38
I dont think the Ombudsman needs permission from Halifax to investigate a complaint made against Halifax.
By:
HarryCrumb
When: 14 Jan 10 19:39
punterfleecer. How can you judge how badly or otherwise this has performed from the information given!
By:
Hearts.no1
When: 14 Jan 10 19:39
SPOT THE DOG 14 Jan 20:14
what the mkts did or didn't do is not my problem, we were told there would be x pounds at the end of 25 years plus a nice bonus on top.

if there was any hint of a risk, my wife would not of had a endowment.

^ so you were mis-sold ,I don't know if you can still claim though ?
By:
Nova Sicko
When: 14 Jan 10 19:40
You are not exposed to the stock market fluctuations though, such policies are designed to give a smoother growth over a period.

So when the stocck goes up you gain less, but when the stock goes down you lose little.
By:
SPOT THE DOG
When: 14 Jan 10 19:40
Ombudsman needs permission from Halifax if as the halifax told us we are out of time.
By:
Hearts.no1
When: 14 Jan 10 19:42
It was in the papers/tv about 5/6 years ago to claim.
By:
HarryCrumb
When: 14 Jan 10 19:42
Ok Spot yes time barred thats bad luck.
By:
punterfleecer
When: 14 Jan 10 19:43

HarryCrumb 14 Jan 20:39
punterfleecer. How can you judge how badly or otherwise this has performed from the information given!


Because that's probably what the banks info gave to all the poor sods who invested in an endowment
By:
punterfleecer
When: 14 Jan 10 19:44
but what's your answer?
By:
SPOT THE DOG
When: 14 Jan 10 19:44
We tried to sort the problem out with the Halifax, but they gave us the run around.
By:
Nova Sicko
When: 14 Jan 10 19:46
all companies sent out letters giving a time frame to put your complaint in, though why is there such a market in buying up such policies?

Are the end of the full term bonuses going to be shocking?
By:
HarryCrumb
When: 14 Jan 10 19:49
I think they are supposed to give you written notice of 6 months if they intend to timebar a complaint?
By:
SPOT THE DOG
When: 14 Jan 10 19:52
HarryCrumb the Halifax closed the complant, as they said they had looked into the case,we didn't.
By:
SPOT THE DOG
When: 14 Jan 10 19:52
complaint
By:
SPOT THE DOG
When: 14 Jan 10 19:57
we said we were not happy with the findings, so they said they would take another look at it.
48 hours later the same STANDARD LETTER came.
By:
HarryCrumb
When: 14 Jan 10 20:05
All I can suggest is check that halifax have followed the procedure that the FSA requires them to follow.
This means you have 3 years from the first warning letter of a shortfall or 6 months after a second whatver is the later.
It also means they must write to you and give you 6 months notice of the date which they intend to time bar you from.
If they havent done this then perhaps you can challenge this with the Ombudsman.
By:
punterfleecer
When: 14 Jan 10 20:06
do they actually explain anything when selling an endowment mortgage?
By:
punterfleecer
When: 14 Jan 10 20:07
FTSE price in 1985 was 1413

FTSE price in 2009 was 5413

looks like he should have done very well, makes no sense, load of sh!t really

source : http://swanlowpark.co.uk/ftse0604.jsp


oh you still need to owe use 6k

because we gave £50 million in bonuses

so in that case probably not regarding in explaining an endowment mortgage
By:
punterfleecer
When: 14 Jan 10 20:08
bankers disgust me
By:
HarryCrumb
When: 14 Jan 10 20:19
Just spotted that it also appears the ombudsman has different rules for sales made pre 1988. The more you look at these things the more complicated it gets- which I suspect is the general idea.
Good luck anyway spot maybe someone else will have something more useful.
By:
SPOT THE DOG
When: 14 Jan 10 20:22
thanks for your time, but as i said, they moved the goal posts
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