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By:
sibaroni
When: 14 Jan 10 15:22
sorry, homicide covers murder and manslaughter
By:
sibaroni
When: 14 Jan 10 15:23
Reading the whole speech, he was expecting mass loss of life (or blood I suppose) as a result of cultures conflicting here in Britain. Didn't happen.
By:
Brodie
When: 14 Jan 10 15:24
Did he give a specific timeframe sib?
By:
hammers world cup winners 1966
When: 14 Jan 10 15:25
all iknow is when you hear of a gang rape you think black right away or am i wrong
By:
sibaroni
When: 14 Jan 10 15:25
No, but if it was to be in forty years time, he might have waited. The only defence for him is "just wait and see". Well after nigh on 40 years, that holds no weight any more.
By:
sparkmaster.
When: 14 Jan 10 15:25
Well let's see, if I saw a news headline today and saw the headline 'Rivers of Blood' sweep across Britain I'd imagine that killings and civil unrest had erupted far beyond previous unknown levels and that I should be barricading the door.
By:
khyber kim
When: 14 Jan 10 15:25
Or premier League Footballers
By:
sparkmaster.
When: 14 Jan 10 15:27
"In this country in 15 or 20 years time the black man will have the whip hand over the white man"
By:
sibaroni
When: 14 Jan 10 15:27
well, sparks, what he meant was diarise the barricading for forty years time, apparently.
By:
sibaroni
When: 14 Jan 10 15:27
ooh, well done. Thats confused them.
By:
Brodie
When: 14 Jan 10 15:28
They've given Nostradamus centuries to get his predictions right ,seems a bit harsh on Enoch to give him 40 years. The fact that homicide rates have gone down in the last 20 years doesn't prove he was wrong at all.
If the homicide rates have gone up since he MADE the speech ,then he is in fact correct.
If the unrest hasn't reached the proportions he predicted ,then he's still not wrong because the country hasn't fallen into the sea.
Bit pedantic ,but to say he is wrong is jumping the gun ,imo.
By:
baracouda30
When: 14 Jan 10 15:28
hammers world cup winners 1966 14 Jan 16:25

all iknow is when you hear of a gang rape you think black right away or am i wrong



The word 'bizarre' doesn't really do that much justice, does it?
By:
Brodie
When: 14 Jan 10 15:29
sparkmaster. 14 Jan 16:25
Well let's see, if I saw a news headline today and saw the headline 'Rivers of Blood' sweep across Britain I'd imagine that killings and civil unrest had erupted far beyond previous unknown levels and that I should be barricading the door.


You scare easy.
By:
baracouda30
When: 14 Jan 10 15:30
If saying he was wrong is jumping the gun, then surely so is saying the opposite?
By:
sibaroni
When: 14 Jan 10 15:30
If homicide rates have gone up since the speech, it doesn't help him at all. He was talking about violence specifically arising out of cultural battles. Brodie, it didn't happen.
By:
sparkmaster.
When: 14 Jan 10 15:30
Well he'd be correct if he'd said 'homicide rates will show a net gain', but those weren't quite his words were they? He was trying to whip up trouble and reasoned conjecture doesn't do that - fantastical (and spectularly wrong) doom-mongering might have, elsewhere.
By:
Brodie
When: 14 Jan 10 15:31
Yep, Bara, I'm responding to the allegation Enoch was wrong.
The jury is out imo, but he could turn out to be right.
By:
sibaroni
When: 14 Jan 10 15:31
And Nostradamus dated his prophecies, and any one who gives them any weight is frankly daft.
By:
Brodie
When: 14 Jan 10 15:32
^^^ i was being a bit tongue in cheek and he did not give specific dates iirc.
By:
Bighouse
When: 14 Jan 10 15:32
As I look ahead, I am filled with foreboding; like the Roman, I seem to see "the River Tiber foaming with much blood."

this is the actual quote.

and, the black man will have the upper hand, was said by someone speaking to Powell and not by him.
By:
sparkmaster.
When: 14 Jan 10 15:32
Only if you can travel back in time to 1983-1988.
By:
orioles
When: 14 Jan 10 15:32
HALF VOLLEY!!!
By:
sparkmaster.
When: 14 Jan 10 15:32
you're correct, i apologise.
By:
orioles
When: 14 Jan 10 15:33
DAMN YOU, DAMN YOU ALL TO HELL! :_|
By:
sparkmaster.
When: 14 Jan 10 15:34
Hang on, no, it was by a man he claimed to have spoken too. It's a bit like Cath saying she heard someone say we're all going to die of swine flu.
By:
sparkmaster.
When: 14 Jan 10 15:35
calm down orioles, i did a very nice bit of photoshopping for you earlier, by mistake admittedly.
By:
Big Charlie
When: 14 Jan 10 15:35
She was a bit right then .
By:
sibaroni
When: 14 Jan 10 15:35
Bighouse - that was not part of the letter he quoted. And even if it was, as a man who received many many letters, he chose specifically that one to press home his point.
By:
darkie returns
When: 14 Jan 10 15:36
was right
By:
Brodie
When: 14 Jan 10 15:36
Anyway, no offence to anyone ,been good chatting.
I'll let the big guns do the business now and sort what's what. :D
By:
sparkmaster.
When: 14 Jan 10 15:37
I shall also bid farewell, I'm going to cook a curry!
By:
Big Charlie
When: 14 Jan 10 15:38
Do you hate ice skaters or boxers ?
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