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RacingCert
10 Jan 10 09:41
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Apparantly grit/salt being imported won't arrive until Jan 22nd.

Will it be a waste of money ?
Will the thaw be on by then ?

Whilst the extent of the cold snap could not be predicted it does seem to be very poorly dealt with.
I'm not sure whether a worse case scenario was prepared for at all. Although could you actually say that what we have had is worst than could have been reasonably predicted.

Correct me if I'm wrong but didn't the weather forecasters suggest we would be in for a "Barbecue winter". Perhaps that was tongue in cheek. But to go from that to worst for 50 yrs or whatever is pretty poor forecasting.

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By:
Ibrahima Sonko
When: 10 Jan 10 09:44
I remember that prediction of a warm winter :)
By:
brendanuk1
When: 10 Jan 10 10:18
salt water works just as well
By:
8sid
When: 10 Jan 10 10:25
personally I think they should use a helicopter (like they do during bush fires)

scoop up loads of salt from France or some where and then just start randomly throwing it around the UK.
By:
Kevin1958
When: 10 Jan 10 10:30
Councils are run by a bunch of totally incompetent morons wasting miliions and millions of pounds of our money. Anybody with half a brain could walk into any council department and save a fortune while at the same time providing a better service. The time to stock up on road salt was BEFORE the event. Why skimp on a resource that lasts indefinitely and endanger the entire country. They should hold sufficient salt stocks to last for 3 months at least. After all, if they don't need it they can always use it next year.
By:
8sid
When: 10 Jan 10 10:32
NOT true Kevin

salt has use by date im afraid
By:
Ibrahima Sonko
When: 10 Jan 10 10:35
the problem is we live in a society where if something happens they must blame someone. If they stock up on too much salt and the cold spell disappears then someone will be moaning about wasting money on stockpiling salt.
By:
Kevin1958
When: 10 Jan 10 10:36
How can salt have a bloody use by date?
By:
GPT
When: 10 Jan 10 10:36
Yes but the one eyed jocko and his fellow idiots put a stop to that last year,another Labour** up.
By:
Kevin1958
When: 10 Jan 10 10:38
"the problem is we live in a society where if something happens they must blame someone."

No the problem is with live in a society where most people working for the government or local council are totally incompetent. That is a sad but unfortunatly true fact of life.
By:
8sid
When: 10 Jan 10 10:39
Kevin1958 10 Jan 11:36


How can salt have a bloody use by date?


they were talking about the granules, and how it works, when kept in storage its loses how effective it can be, depending on how the salt were stored.

was on news yesterday.

the way the counil stores salt they will not keep a massive stock as they would like to im afraid.
By:
BurtSaddo.
When: 10 Jan 10 10:41
they use a liquid salt solution in sweden, supposed to work much faster
By:
Kevin1958
When: 10 Jan 10 10:42
As you say "depending how it's stored".

They need to store it correctly.
By:
8sid
When: 10 Jan 10 10:46
Kevin1958 10 Jan 11:42


As you say "depending how it's stored".

They need to store it correctly.


indeed and the way we store it here is not suitable for long term

hence they norm only keep for 3 month periods
By:
FatherMaguire
When: 10 Jan 10 10:47
Out of interest, how should it be stored Kevin? - which is the most cost-effective storage solution?
By:
Kevin1958
When: 10 Jan 10 10:49
So do you think it might be a good idea to consider storing it in such a way that they could keep it indefinitely; and hence store salt in larger quantities thereby avoiding the possibility of repeating this fiasco?
By:
Kevin1958
When: 10 Jan 10 10:52
"Out of interest, how should it be stored Kevin? - which is the most cost-effective storage solution?"

Well I would hazard a guess that if it were stored in a warm dry environment it would last indefinitely. As for cost effective; how much do you think a working traffic infrastructure is worth to our economy?
By:
munch man
When: 10 Jan 10 11:16
if we could somehow speed up global warming so the sea floods all the roads all that salty water would melt the ice quick sharp imo.
By:
Mandylou
When: 10 Jan 10 11:46
majority of the councils had ordered in good time and were promised deliveries weeks ago - they havent arrived and cant be mined quick enough when massive loads are asked for and as pointed out it doesent store in grit form that well
By:
Sir Denis Eton-Hogg
When: 10 Jan 10 12:06
funny how everyone has an 'expert' opinion these days despite knowing nothing of the facts
By:
Ivor
When: 10 Jan 10 12:08
I hear they will store the unused salt/grit with the unused swine-flu vaccinations.
By:
Ibrahima Sonko
When: 10 Jan 10 12:08
His answers were very much of a politician :)
By:
Kevin1958
When: 10 Jan 10 13:18
Its strange how incompetence is condoned. A stitch in time anyone?
By:
Sir Denis Eton-Hogg
When: 10 Jan 10 13:23
its pretty inevitable that when you have the worst winter for several decades the authorities will struggle to cope.
By:
Kevin1958
When: 10 Jan 10 14:26
Oh well, that's ok then.
By:
Ibrahima Sonko
When: 10 Jan 10 14:36
If this Global Warming gets any worse, we're all going to freeze to death.
By:
punterfleecer
When: 10 Jan 10 14:43
don't yous have salt skips down there where you can collect your own?

we do in this council, the grit's been there for years, and finally being used now by the community and it seems effective

I'd do some spreading myself but I don't have a spade
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