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irchester
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is the main reason they are the highest percent out of work
a benefits are too high
b lack of experience in the workplace
c other please state
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Report Jimbo747 • January 4, 2010 11:01 AM GMT
c) Most of 'em dirty chavs (nap)
Report HarryCrumb • January 4, 2010 11:03 AM GMT
C the collapsing economy means few employers are taking on new staff. People entering the market for the first time are bound to be hit worst.
Report irchester • January 4, 2010 11:03 AM GMT
what is the uk rate of overall unemployment? is it 8% ish?
Report Phil Lynott • January 4, 2010 11:04 AM GMT
c) I'm at uni and couldn't be fecked, I have enough savings and get grants/bursaries that cover uni fees so have no urgent need.
Report irchester • January 4, 2010 11:04 AM GMT
a pls with younger people is that you can pay them less money though as the min wage lower if you under 21.
Report STUDYFORM • January 4, 2010 11:04 AM GMT
benefits, despite stuff to the contrary, are not too high!
Wages are too low.

There is no real incentive to work and it seems there are other ways to survive.
Also if 20% are out of work, does that mean that 80% are in work (a huge majority)?
Report blackburn1 • January 4, 2010 11:04 AM GMT
Yep, and a lot of them have been duped into buying worthless degrees too. Unemployed and £000s in debt, what a start to your working life
Report irchester • January 4, 2010 11:04 AM GMT
uni students arent classed as unemployed are they?
Report Phil Lynott • January 4, 2010 11:06 AM GMT
I guess not, still though the can't be fecked applies to a lot I'm sure.
Report inspiron • January 4, 2010 11:06 AM GMT
And over 500,000 students started universities last September.... Most will leave university with rubbish degrees, big debts and end up on the dole or in a call centre on £5.45 a hour.
Report irchester • January 4, 2010 11:06 AM GMT
ive worked out after travel costs of 40p a mile im worse off working my 13 hours a week this week than i would be on the dole excluding travel to interview costs if i did sod all instead, im looking for a morning cleaning job to go with my other jobs but no luck yet.
Report irchester • January 4, 2010 11:07 AM GMT
call centre on min wage is fine.
Report Wedontneednostinkinbadges • January 4, 2010 11:18 AM GMT
most are busy inter breeding, so as to get on kyles show.
Report garlicbread • January 4, 2010 11:19 AM GMT
The main reasons is that we have the most incompetant government in living memory.
Report JamesBlakesHugeArse • January 4, 2010 11:19 AM GMT
...quietly awaits the first of the bnp brigade...
Report Prima Donna • January 4, 2010 11:40 AM GMT
agree with garlic bread!
Report Wedontneednostinkinbadges • January 4, 2010 12:00 PM GMT
the govt were the same in 70 s 80 s and 90 s .
Report kohaku • January 4, 2010 12:02 PM GMT
There is no hope for this country under the current system.. Cant fool all of the people..etc etc.
Report Prima Donna • January 4, 2010 12:03 PM GMT
for the last 6 years we have had the EU to compete with thats where a lot of unemployment comes from.
Report The Bhoys • January 4, 2010 1:37 PM GMT
am 24 and really want a job! Am no chav btw! A think am 2 old to be one of those!
Report duncan idaho • January 4, 2010 1:45 PM GMT
Other countries are worse...Spain it's 43% 16-24 yr olds. US 1 in 5 also
Report Live Forever • January 4, 2010 1:53 PM GMT
Am no chav btw

I think this argument would be aided if you didn't start so many threads banging on about spending all your money on cheap booze
Report ICANTSTANDTHISFORUM • January 4, 2010 1:57 PM GMT
Phil Lynott 04 Jan 12:06
I guess not, still though the can't be fecked applies to a lot I'm sure.

Yos stike me as a well read,bright individual.




P.S.

I am a habitual liar .
Report Phil Lynott • January 4, 2010 2:03 PM GMT
I'm hurt. :(
Report Big Charlie • January 4, 2010 2:23 PM GMT
Hello hurt, I'm Charlie
Report Pounf • January 4, 2010 4:25 PM GMT
Dont forget ppl cant afford to retire now as well
Report cunnybobbler • January 4, 2010 4:34 PM GMT
have you seen them out there? on the street corners? would you employ them? and to do what? last time i looked trying to frighten people as they go in the local spar wasnt classed as a job.
Report bix • January 4, 2010 4:37 PM GMT
More or less what I was going to say. The reason they're unemployed is because they're unemployable.
Report canaryboy • January 4, 2010 4:37 PM GMT
took me a ridiculous number of applications just to get interviewed

not even considered for some pretty bad paid stuff too

just got lucky to finally get an interview and taken on and for one of the best paid ones i applied for too
Report canaryboy • January 4, 2010 4:38 PM GMT
so many people going for so few jobs
Report Java • January 4, 2010 4:42 PM GMT
When I started in banking back in the day, I found it was a viscious circle as I didn't have enough work experience during/before university. Seeing as I was against some guy for whom daddy had got him a summer placement I was stuffed irrespective of academic acheivements and didn't even get an interview. I eventually got in, but I remember it being a struggle at the start. That said, if we are talking about the chavs hanging around in the street, they are unemployable, and I imagine they don't even bother making any applications. They can't even string a lucid sentence together so how are they supposed to impress during an interview, irrespective of role? My general tip for a greater success would be to stop trying to pretend you have a black accent when you are white.
Report Putitinabox&sellit • January 4, 2010 5:02 PM GMT
Don't use that stupid terminology 'Chav' it exudes a sort of trendy cool-ness about what is in reality a GOOD-FOR-NOTHING B U M
Report Putitinabox&sellit • January 4, 2010 5:03 PM GMT
CHAV = A S S W I P E
Report Big Charlie • January 4, 2010 5:22 PM GMT
Chav was a word used by 'pikeys' to describe their kids.

It had fack all to do with todays youth.
Report larry grayson • January 4, 2010 5:50 PM GMT
From some of the 16-24 year olds I've encountered I'm amazed that only 20% are unemployed. They might have 57 A levels and a degree in applied media studies but they still can't read or write or add 3 numbers without a calculator.
Report canaryboy • January 4, 2010 5:55 PM GMT
not all jobs require that tbf
Report mightymoyes • January 4, 2010 5:57 PM GMT
c) what few jobs there is you need experience and/or qualifications. large portion of 16-24 yrs olds have neither.
Report Big Charlie • January 4, 2010 6:01 PM GMT
Over18s females with big baps and a nice smile can be cashiers in bookies.

Or 'Customer Service Assistants' as they are known as these days.

No brains required.
Report bix • January 4, 2010 6:09 PM GMT
In my day, albeit quite a few years ago, when you left school the grammar school kids and the smarter kids from the secondary modern schools got the office jobs while the rest (what were known as factory fodder ) went as you can imagine into a factory.
Unfortunately although the schools still turn out plenty of factory fodder
those jobs are no longer available.
The authorities can pretend they are turning out academics with their phony qualifications but the employers aren't fooled.
Report Phil Lynott • January 4, 2010 6:10 PM GMT
This thread reeks of bitterness.
Report alfee • January 4, 2010 6:10 PM GMT
feck me, this guy is a bag of nerves.
Report alfee • January 4, 2010 6:11 PM GMT
sorri wrong thread!!!!!
Report JORDI • January 4, 2010 6:13 PM GMT
ive employed a couple of guys with degrees straight out of uni and complete waste of space,both sacked after 3 months,useless**heads imo
Report Gary Binosh • January 4, 2010 6:15 PM GMT
well im 20 and ive worked full time for 2 years, so its not impossible to get a job
Report Mc Moonbeam • January 4, 2010 6:16 PM GMT
Just breed more & get paid for it .... SIMPLES
Report madsimon • January 4, 2010 6:17 PM GMT
the counrty can always find work for people who break their ankles falling headfirst out of a tree Gary!!
Report Mc Moonbeam • January 4, 2010 6:18 PM GMT
Yeah Gary .. you sound like you have a world of experience .. so ta .
Report Gary Binosh • January 4, 2010 6:19 PM GMT
I work in administration, you have to have some qualifications for that

some real harsh b@stards on here :(
Report Mc Moonbeam • January 4, 2010 6:23 PM GMT
all i'm saying is .. have you ever lost a job ?
Report bix • January 4, 2010 6:24 PM GMT
Thats because it is and always has been a tough world out there.
Report Gary Binosh • January 4, 2010 6:26 PM GMT
no, ive had 2 previous jobs which i left for the one om at now

i see my post sounds like im being a really c unt, thats not what i meant, i guess i havent read the thread but i presumed it would be another thread saying how 16-24 year olds are just people who have no intention of getting jobs, and i was meaning to say at 20 im in a full time job that i put effort into get and have worked hard at since, so not all people that age are like that

my post wasnt meant to be a dig at the younger generation not getting jobs, im meaning to stick up for them
Report Harley filben • January 4, 2010 6:26 PM GMT
HarryCrumb 04 Jan 12:03
C the collapsing economy means few employers are taking on new staff. People entering the market for the first time are bound to be hit worst.

/thread
Report Mc Moonbeam • January 4, 2010 6:35 PM GMT
that's cool Gary .. you're a good kid

but ask yourself would you do your job forever ?
Report shaungoater • January 4, 2010 6:37 PM GMT
Gary

Do you remember the West Ham v West Brom game towards the end of the last premiership season?

(apologies for deviation from thread topic here)
Report Gary Binosh • January 4, 2010 6:38 PM GMT
no, i dont intend to be in the same job forever, why ?

sean, yes, i think it was a monday and finished 0-0 why ?
Report KaneGould • January 4, 2010 6:39 PM GMT
im 19, applied for around 70 jobs, not even an interveiw due to no sales experience, the jobs i been applying for are like pc world and ladbrokes and places like that, wont touch anyone with no experience though
Report Gary Binosh • January 4, 2010 6:40 PM GMT
just keep applying mate, and eventually youll get somewhere
Report KaneGould • January 4, 2010 6:41 PM GMT
a part time job in boots in the high street got 300 applicants the other day, for 1 part time job!
Report Gary Binosh • January 4, 2010 6:43 PM GMT
i worked part time at morrisons nearly 3 years ago, and it wa so easy to get it, they were desperate for people, now with the recession, there is no places available anywhere
Report KaneGould • January 4, 2010 6:43 PM GMT
what do people think of employment agencies? problem is there are 100s of people on there list as it is
Report shaungoater • January 4, 2010 6:46 PM GMT
Well remembered, as it was the worst game of football I can remember since watching Luton 0-0 Arsenal on a frozen plastic pitch in the old 1st Divsion.

The reason I ask is that I lost a fair amount on last season's shocker and chatted to you afterwards on a thread where you said you lost a similar amount.

How does a 19/20yo administrator find themselves gambling about a 1/3 of their salary on a Monday night game of football?
Report kohaku • January 4, 2010 6:46 PM GMT
Kane - I dont envy you in your quest to find a decent job.. I grew up in the 60's ,spoilt for choice,if you didnt like one job. just jack it in and start another.
Report DarkDagger • January 4, 2010 6:46 PM GMT
Hi everyone, I'm 21, a recent 2:1 graduate in Politics from a top 30 uni. I was unemployed for 6 months, luckily have a job now (work for the DWP). The reason it's so difficult is because employers always want experience for the most menial of jobs. I've only had 1 proper job before now (accounts assistant for a hospital) so unless I want to do that for the rest of my life it's very difficult. I had 4 interviews in 6 months excluding the job I got, and on only one of those interviews did do poorly in. For example performed really well at an interview to work in a pathology department (non-clinical role), didn't get it because someone had 2 years experience. Yet it was such an easy job (and a cr@p salary of £13.8k to go with it) they might as well have tossed a coin.
Report Gary Binosh • January 4, 2010 6:47 PM GMT
i know we just emplyed someone part time from an emplyment agency, but i know my boss isnt a big fan of them, but myself i would know very little about them

all i do know is, they are very pushy which for people wanting jobs is a good thing i guess, they ring us every other week
Report KaneGould • January 4, 2010 6:49 PM GMT
i once applied for a bakery shop, realy small it was and they wanted experience, it takes the pi$$ because i can do the job as well as any with experience, think im going to sign up to a few agencies
Report Gary Binosh • January 4, 2010 6:49 PM GMT
yeah i remember talking to you vaguely about that, yes shocking game of football

but i can promise you shaun, ive never lied about an amount iv staked on betfair, and i have never ever bet any amount of money like that, i earn about 14K a year in my position, but betting is just a hobby for me, i stick just to £2, fivers tenners, and occasionally a bit higher

i think i remember you saying you had bet big, but i hadnt, and i wouldnt lie to you either, so must have been somebody else who was betting big
Report DarkDagger • January 4, 2010 6:50 PM GMT
inspiron 04 Jan 12:06
And over 500,000 students started universities last September.... Most will leave university with rubbish degrees, big debts and end up on the dole or in a call centre on £5.45 a hour.


Nail on head, perhaps the greatest New Labour con of them all. Just not enough jobs in the economy that are suited to what's concentrated on in the new degrees. And millions of 21-25 year olds in £20k of debt at the start of their working lives.
Report KaneGould • January 4, 2010 6:50 PM GMT
ive got a National Diploma in Sports Performance & Excellence, which is useless without going to uni, which aint for me because il go there, get in debt, come back and still be applying for places like pc world
Report Gary Binosh • January 4, 2010 6:51 PM GMT
i worked for the DWP mate, that was my previous job

in my short career ive only had 4 interviews and got 3 jobs, been lucky
Report shaungoater • January 4, 2010 6:53 PM GMT
Sorry if my post seemed accusational Gary, certainly not my intention. Just curious, thought maybe you'd gone through a phase of reckless punting having got a lucky acca up or something

My memory has probably betrayed me

Good luck
Report Mr Eboue • January 4, 2010 6:57 PM GMT
Yea I'm out that Brooklyn, now I'm down in TriBeCa
right next to Deniro, but I'll be hood forever
I'm the new Sinatra, and... since I made it here
I can make it anywhere, yea, they love me everywhere
Report Gary Binosh • January 4, 2010 6:57 PM GMT
oh no worries mate, i see where you are coming from, and on my salary if i was betting huge sums, it would be shocking, but betting has only ever been a bit of fun for me, and i have a good discipline, and am never tempted to go further with it

i think we were all appreciative of the conversations after the game to keep us awake :D

cheers and good luck to you aswell :)
Report Gary Binosh • January 4, 2010 6:58 PM GMT
i thought you worked in greggs Eboue ?:|
Report KaneGould • January 4, 2010 6:58 PM GMT
Eboue, you like lil wayne?? jay zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
Report Mr Eboue • January 4, 2010 6:59 PM GMT
Greggs :^0

Yeah a like a bit of rap.

Fo show**
Report Gary Binosh • January 4, 2010 6:59 PM GMT
:D
Report KaneGould • January 4, 2010 7:00 PM GMT
Every Girl In The World - We Are Young Money , try that one, tis a gudden
Report Mr Eboue • January 4, 2010 7:01 PM GMT
Nas is my favourite hip hop artist.

Just listening to illmatic now.

Different gravy :)
Report KaneGould • January 4, 2010 7:02 PM GMT
Lil Wayne and Drake are my favourites at the mo, and birdman-written on her is rate
Report Phil Lynott • January 4, 2010 7:03 PM GMT
DarkDagger 04 Jan 19:50
inspiron 04 Jan 12:06
And over 500,000 students started universities last September.... Most will leave university with rubbish degrees, big debts and end up on the dole or in a call centre on £5.45 a hour.

Nail on head, perhaps the greatest New Labour con of them all. Just not enough jobs in the economy that are suited to what's concentrated on in the new degrees. And millions of 21-25 year olds in £20k of debt at the start of their working lives.



Just remember a lot of these people will be aware of there situation before applying. I know a fair few who are willing to be in debt to go to uni as they would rather have a good few years before jumping straight into an office job or something like that. Personally I think that's fair enough.

I'm studying Accounting at Uni. Most people probably think it's dull, I think it's pretty decent plus it's a degree that I can then get a job with. I'm not naive, it's still going to be very very difficult to get a job, but I'm not studying some useless degree(I hope :^0), firms have openings for graduates so all being well I'll jump ahead in the ladder once I've started.
Report Phil Lynott • January 4, 2010 7:04 PM GMT
Plus I actually earn £1.1k per year for going to uni through grants and bursaries :^0
Report Mr Eboue • January 4, 2010 7:04 PM GMT
IF YOU WORK HARD AND REALLY WANT TO BE A SUCCESS YOU CAN EARN 50K A YEAR EASILY IF YOU NO GCSE'S.

THIS IS FACT.
Report Simon Phoenix • January 4, 2010 7:08 PM GMT
Finished uni, went travelling and hadn't worked for a long time before then. I then got a job after a month or so of applying, was the 2nd interview I'd gone for. Maybe I got lucky? Not all doom and gloom from my perspective, but do agree it is tough without any previous experience on your cv.

Anybody currently in uni I would highly advise to try and get some relevant voluntary work on their CV. Although if somebody had said to me do some voluntary work alongside my studies I'd have laughed in their face, because the advantages are obviously long term.
Report Duke Of Venice1 • January 4, 2010 7:12 PM GMT
STUDYFORM 04 Jan 12:04


benefits, despite stuff to the contrary, are not too high!
Wages are too low.

There is no real incentive to work and it seems there are other ways to survive.
Also if 20% are out of work, does that mean that 80% are in work (a huge majority)?




Gave up reading the thread when this tw*t gave his view. What a total clueless person he is. I assume I have been caught in his net.
Report Mr Eboue • January 4, 2010 7:13 PM GMT
Bit harsh.
Report KaneGould • January 4, 2010 7:16 PM GMT
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FMByIBfBOQY

Eboue, tap this up
Report KaneGould • January 4, 2010 7:17 PM GMT
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q7VLNPCAJEE

and that one
Report Mr Eboue • January 4, 2010 7:18 PM GMT
I'm not a big man of lil wayne mate.


Here's what you need -

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5gWD4g63RNI&feature=PlayList&p=E5FFBF4CF39B82...
Report BonViv • January 4, 2010 7:20 PM GMT
Gary Binosh 04 Jan 19:19
I work in administration, you have to have some qualifications for that

LOL..well it made me chuckle anyway

The OP got most of the reasons in fairness,BUT the huge fools paradise that a large % of todays youth live in (ie getting 10A*GCSE/A LEVELS ETC and thinking that they are very intelligent.)Sure some will be but the amount of muck given out as degrees and the bizzare methods the unis do to up the grades really says it all.A very average to poor unmotivated workforce in the 18-24's etc.

The Chav question is also relevant as there's huge swathes of these untermenchen without education or the slightest intention to work.

It's not so much that wages are low at all..history will tell you they're not but benefits are in many cases preposterous and i dont blame the underclass for sitting on their ars@s when they can get an equal lifestyle.
Report KaneGould • January 4, 2010 7:22 PM GMT
Weezys the greatest rapper aliiiiiiiiiive
Report Gary Binosh • January 4, 2010 8:43 PM GMT
bonviv - maybe you dont have to be, but i am, to a certain extent
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