a fifth of 16-24 year olds unemployed

c) Most of 'em dirty chavs (nap)

C the collapsing economy means few employers are taking on new staff. People entering the market for the first time are bound to be hit worst.

what is the uk rate of overall unemployment? is it 8% ish?

c) I'm at uni and couldn't be fecked, I have enough savings and get grants/bursaries that cover uni fees so have no urgent need.

a pls with younger people is that you can pay them less money though as the min wage lower if you under 21.

benefits, despite stuff to the contrary, are not too high!
Wages are too low.

There is no real incentive to work and it seems there are other ways to survive.
Also if 20% are out of work, does that mean that 80% are in work (a huge majority)?

Yep, and a lot of them have been duped into buying worthless degrees too. Unemployed and £000s in debt, what a start to your working life

uni students arent classed as unemployed are they?

I guess not, still though the can't be fecked applies to a lot I'm sure.

And over 500,000 students started universities last September.... Most will leave university with rubbish degrees, big debts and end up on the dole or in a call centre on £5.45 a hour.

ive worked out after travel costs of 40p a mile im worse off working my 13 hours a week this week than i would be on the dole excluding travel to interview costs if i did sod all instead, im looking for a morning cleaning job to go with my other jobs but no luck yet.

call centre on min wage is fine.

most are busy inter breeding, so as to get on kyles show.

The main reasons is that we have the most incompetant government in living memory.

...quietly awaits the first of the bnp brigade...

agree with garlic bread!

the govt were the same in 70 s 80 s and 90 s .

There is no hope for this country under the current system.. Cant fool all of the people..etc etc.

for the last 6 years we have had the EU to compete with thats where a lot of unemployment comes from.

am 24 and really want a job! Am no chav btw! A think am 2 old to be one of those!

Other countries are worse...Spain it's 43% 16-24 yr olds. US 1 in 5 also

Am no chav btw

I think this argument would be aided if you didn't start so many threads banging on about spending all your money on cheap booze

Phil Lynott 04 Jan 12:06
I guess not, still though the can't be fecked applies to a lot I'm sure.

Yos stike me as a well read,bright individual.




P.S.

I am a habitual liar .

I'm hurt. :(

Hello hurt, I'm Charlie

Dont forget ppl cant afford to retire now as well

have you seen them out there? on the street corners? would you employ them? and to do what? last time i looked trying to frighten people as they go in the local spar wasnt classed as a job.

More or less what I was going to say. The reason they're unemployed is because they're unemployable.

took me a ridiculous number of applications just to get interviewed

not even considered for some pretty bad paid stuff too

just got lucky to finally get an interview and taken on and for one of the best paid ones i applied for too

so many people going for so few jobs

When I started in banking back in the day, I found it was a viscious circle as I didn't have enough work experience during/before university. Seeing as I was against some guy for whom daddy had got him a summer placement I was stuffed irrespective of academic acheivements and didn't even get an interview. I eventually got in, but I remember it being a struggle at the start. That said, if we are talking about the chavs hanging around in the street, they are unemployable, and I imagine they don't even bother making any applications. They can't even string a lucid sentence together so how are they supposed to impress during an interview, irrespective of role? My general tip for a greater success would be to stop trying to pretend you have a black accent when you are white.

Don't use that stupid terminology 'Chav' it exudes a sort of trendy cool-ness about what is in reality a GOOD-FOR-NOTHING B U M

CHAV = A S S W I P E

Chav was a word used by 'pikeys' to describe their kids.

It had fack all to do with todays youth.

From some of the 16-24 year olds I've encountered I'm amazed that only 20% are unemployed. They might have 57 A levels and a degree in applied media studies but they still can't read or write or add 3 numbers without a calculator.

not all jobs require that tbf

c) what few jobs there is you need experience and/or qualifications. large portion of 16-24 yrs olds have neither.

Over18s females with big baps and a nice smile can be cashiers in bookies.

Or 'Customer Service Assistants' as they are known as these days.

No brains required.

In my day, albeit quite a few years ago, when you left school the grammar school kids and the smarter kids from the secondary modern schools got the office jobs while the rest (what were known as factory fodder ) went as you can imagine into a factory.
Unfortunately although the schools still turn out plenty of factory fodder
those jobs are no longer available.
The authorities can pretend they are turning out academics with their phony qualifications but the employers aren't fooled.

This thread reeks of bitterness.

feck me, this guy is a bag of nerves.

sorri wrong thread!!!!!

ive employed a couple of guys with degrees straight out of uni and complete waste of space,both sacked after 3 months,useless**heads imo

well im 20 and ive worked full time for 2 years, so its not impossible to get a job

Just breed more & get paid for it .... SIMPLES

the counrty can always find work for people who break their ankles falling headfirst out of a tree Gary!!

Yeah Gary .. you sound like you have a world of experience .. so ta .

I work in administration, you have to have some qualifications for that

some real harsh b@stards on here :(

all i'm saying is .. have you ever lost a job ?

Thats because it is and always has been a tough world out there.

no, ive had 2 previous jobs which i left for the one om at now

i see my post sounds like im being a really c unt, thats not what i meant, i guess i havent read the thread but i presumed it would be another thread saying how 16-24 year olds are just people who have no intention of getting jobs, and i was meaning to say at 20 im in a full time job that i put effort into get and have worked hard at since, so not all people that age are like that

my post wasnt meant to be a dig at the younger generation not getting jobs, im meaning to stick up for them

HarryCrumb 04 Jan 12:03
C the collapsing economy means few employers are taking on new staff. People entering the market for the first time are bound to be hit worst.

/thread

that's cool Gary .. you're a good kid

but ask yourself would you do your job forever ?

Gary

Do you remember the West Ham v West Brom game towards the end of the last premiership season?

(apologies for deviation from thread topic here)

no, i dont intend to be in the same job forever, why ?

sean, yes, i think it was a monday and finished 0-0 why ?

im 19, applied for around 70 jobs, not even an interveiw due to no sales experience, the jobs i been applying for are like pc world and ladbrokes and places like that, wont touch anyone with no experience though

just keep applying mate, and eventually youll get somewhere

a part time job in boots in the high street got 300 applicants the other day, for 1 part time job!

i worked part time at morrisons nearly 3 years ago, and it wa so easy to get it, they were desperate for people, now with the recession, there is no places available anywhere

what do people think of employment agencies? problem is there are 100s of people on there list as it is

Well remembered, as it was the worst game of football I can remember since watching Luton 0-0 Arsenal on a frozen plastic pitch in the old 1st Divsion.

The reason I ask is that I lost a fair amount on last season's shocker and chatted to you afterwards on a thread where you said you lost a similar amount.

How does a 19/20yo administrator find themselves gambling about a 1/3 of their salary on a Monday night game of football?

Kane - I dont envy you in your quest to find a decent job.. I grew up in the 60's ,spoilt for choice,if you didnt like one job. just jack it in and start another.

Hi everyone, I'm 21, a recent 2:1 graduate in Politics from a top 30 uni. I was unemployed for 6 months, luckily have a job now (work for the DWP). The reason it's so difficult is because employers always want experience for the most menial of jobs. I've only had 1 proper job before now (accounts assistant for a hospital) so unless I want to do that for the rest of my life it's very difficult. I had 4 interviews in 6 months excluding the job I got, and on only one of those interviews did do poorly in. For example performed really well at an interview to work in a pathology department (non-clinical role), didn't get it because someone had 2 years experience. Yet it was such an easy job (and a cr@p salary of £13.8k to go with it) they might as well have tossed a coin.

i know we just emplyed someone part time from an emplyment agency, but i know my boss isnt a big fan of them, but myself i would know very little about them

all i do know is, they are very pushy which for people wanting jobs is a good thing i guess, they ring us every other week

i once applied for a bakery shop, realy small it was and they wanted experience, it takes the pi$$ because i can do the job as well as any with experience, think im going to sign up to a few agencies

yeah i remember talking to you vaguely about that, yes shocking game of football

but i can promise you shaun, ive never lied about an amount iv staked on betfair, and i have never ever bet any amount of money like that, i earn about 14K a year in my position, but betting is just a hobby for me, i stick just to £2, fivers tenners, and occasionally a bit higher

i think i remember you saying you had bet big, but i hadnt, and i wouldnt lie to you either, so must have been somebody else who was betting big

inspiron 04 Jan 12:06
And over 500,000 students started universities last September.... Most will leave university with rubbish degrees, big debts and end up on the dole or in a call centre on £5.45 a hour.

Nail on head, perhaps the greatest New Labour con of them all. Just not enough jobs in the economy that are suited to what's concentrated on in the new degrees. And millions of 21-25 year olds in £20k of debt at the start of their working lives.

ive got a National Diploma in Sports Performance & Excellence, which is useless without going to uni, which aint for me because il go there, get in debt, come back and still be applying for places like pc world

i worked for the DWP mate, that was my previous job

in my short career ive only had 4 interviews and got 3 jobs, been lucky

Sorry if my post seemed accusational Gary, certainly not my intention. Just curious, thought maybe you'd gone through a phase of reckless punting having got a lucky acca up or something

My memory has probably betrayed me

Good luck

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oh no worries mate, i see where you are coming from, and on my salary if i was betting huge sums, it would be shocking, but betting has only ever been a bit of fun for me, and i have a good discipline, and am never tempted to go further with it

i think we were all appreciative of the conversations after the game to keep us awake :D

cheers and good luck to you aswell :)

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DarkDagger 04 Jan 19:50
inspiron 04 Jan 12:06
And over 500,000 students started universities last September.... Most will leave university with rubbish degrees, big debts and end up on the dole or in a call centre on £5.45 a hour.

Nail on head, perhaps the greatest New Labour con of them all. Just not enough jobs in the economy that are suited to what's concentrated on in the new degrees. And millions of 21-25 year olds in £20k of debt at the start of their working lives.


Just remember a lot of these people will be aware of there situation before applying. I know a fair few who are willing to be in debt to go to uni as they would rather have a good few years before jumping straight into an office job or something like that. Personally I think that's fair enough.

I'm studying Accounting at Uni. Most people probably think it's dull, I think it's pretty decent plus it's a degree that I can then get a job with. I'm not naive, it's still going to be very very difficult to get a job, but I'm not studying some useless degree(I hope :^0), firms have openings for graduates so all being well I'll jump ahead in the ladder once I've started.

Plus I actually earn £1.1k per year for going to uni through grants and bursaries :^0

IF YOU WORK HARD AND REALLY WANT TO BE A SUCCESS YOU CAN EARN 50K A YEAR EASILY IF YOU NO GCSE'S.

THIS IS FACT.

Finished uni, went travelling and hadn't worked for a long time before then. I then got a job after a month or so of applying, was the 2nd interview I'd gone for. Maybe I got lucky? Not all doom and gloom from my perspective, but do agree it is tough without any previous experience on your cv.

Anybody currently in uni I would highly advise to try and get some relevant voluntary work on their CV. Although if somebody had said to me do some voluntary work alongside my studies I'd have laughed in their face, because the advantages are obviously long term.

STUDYFORM 04 Jan 12:04


benefits, despite stuff to the contrary, are not too high!
Wages are too low.

There is no real incentive to work and it seems there are other ways to survive.
Also if 20% are out of work, does that mean that 80% are in work (a huge majority)?




Gave up reading the thread when this tw*t gave his view. What a total clueless person he is. I assume I have been caught in his net.

Bit harsh.

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q7VLNPCAJEE

and that one

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Gary Binosh 04 Jan 19:19
I work in administration, you have to have some qualifications for that

LOL..well it made me chuckle anyway

The OP got most of the reasons in fairness,BUT the huge fools paradise that a large % of todays youth live in (ie getting 10A*GCSE/A LEVELS ETC and thinking that they are very intelligent.)Sure some will be but the amount of muck given out as degrees and the bizzare methods the unis do to up the grades really says it all.A very average to poor unmotivated workforce in the 18-24's etc.

The Chav question is also relevant as there's huge swathes of these untermenchen without education or the slightest intention to work.

It's not so much that wages are low at all..history will tell you they're not but benefits are in many cases preposterous and i dont blame the underclass for sitting on their ars@s when they can get an equal lifestyle.

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