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The thing is, though, Tommy - why do you like what you like?
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prob couldn't see her FBI badge .
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Because it's instinctive, like most of my life, Vel.
I won't have someone tell me something is 'good' just because they think they can. I use my own judgement. |
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See, I would get a job (£30 an hour) at an art school and you lot wouldn't!
The trick is this : you DON'T EVER KILL THE QUESTION MARK! Or should that be.......?? |
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Yeah? Can we all agree on that? A lot of thorough, investigative work has taken place here - yeah?
Now, can we head to the art school bar where I can try to pull the tall Swedish bird whose father works for the UN...? |
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I just 'like' things which move my spirit in some way, its almost mystical the way a painting, a film, a literary work, or of course a piece of music can stir one's spirit, and yet, that same thing which moves me may be seen as complete drivel by someone else...
of course, some people are never moved by anything, which is in my mind very sad. |
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Tommy
That was School of Saatchi http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/search/?q=School%20of%20Saatchi I'm lucky enough not to have a tv, but have watched the series on iplayer with keen interest, sometimes incredulity. |
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I totally agree, Tony.
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Cheers Lud, although I don't want to see the whole of it.
A so called 'artist' not knowing the difference between a bat or a starling was enough for me. |
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The Saatchi thing : he's a PR man and he has connections with the Tate Modern. He's like King Midas - the mere fact that he buys something makes it more valuable. So, the Saatchi collection is about Saatchi - not the artists.
Most of the art he buys is "gag" art - like a joke with a punchline. You can only "get" it once. |
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hey vel you can never truyl call yourself an artists til you've imbibed of a nice tumbler of absinthe!!
I believe this lethal drink helped turn some of the famous writers and artists rather er..unbalnced, well, that and the syphillis |
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oops, appalling spelling....
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I agree, Vel.
And I have no inclination at all to fuel his propaganda machine. |
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That's Marilyn Manson's drug of choice, Tony!
Unfortunately - or fortunately - I'm allergic to alcohol. A terrible thing for a Scotsman. |
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The last time I got drunk was when Ireland played Germany in the World Cup. I got slaughtered on a pint of Frosty Jack Cider (real nasty cheapo stuff) and was pig-sick for two days. Haven't touched booze since!
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positively4thsteet 13 Dec 16:34
It was a shame about Van Gogh losing his sight when he was older, Don't know how he could paint without seeing. Velasquez 13 Dec 16:37 Eh ?? Velasquez 13 Dec 16:38 It was Monet and Degas that progressively lost their sight... Yeah, but after Van Gogh chopped his ear off, he couldn't keep his glasses on. :) |
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Very funny!
You're the type who could win a Turner Prize. |
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By the roast Vel!
Buy yourself a bottle of Cava and I'm sure you'll enjoy it's 'relaxation' properties without it making you sick. |
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I suppose I could handle a small glass, Tommy...
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I'll send you a bottle, Vel!
Can't have a good honest Scotsman like you not having a bit of a 'brew'! |
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http://www.russianartgallery.org/famous/images/serov_peaches.jpg
Here's one I posted on Tony's art thread the other day - "Girl With Peaches" by Valentin Serov. |
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Agreed, Vel. The old blokes whizzing around in wheelchairs was certainly an amusing visual gag (I think you artists prefer the word installation) but the gag overall was how come such collected nonsense could be displayed throughout the gallery?
However, one feature of the on-line site which is to be admired is the facility for any artist or photographer(or "insallation artist"? arf arf!) to display and flog their work on-line, commission free. |
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has anyone seen the old version of the film, moulin rouge?
what a sad film, i wondered if the actor portraying artist, toulouse lautrec had to get about on his knees for the performance. |
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Was that Jose Ferrer? He was in "Laurence of Arabia" - and Zsa Zsa Gabor? She WASN'T in "Laurence of Arabia."
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I've seen it many times, Tony.
José Ferrer played a great part. A very poignant film. |
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"Production notes
The film was shot at Shepperton Studios, Shepperton, Surrey, England, and on location in London and Paris. Reportedly, John Huston asked cinematographer Oswald Morris that he wanted the color scheme of the film to look "as if Toulouse-Lautrec had directed it".[1] In the film, José Ferrer plays both Henri and his father, the Comte Alphonse de Toulouse-Lautrec. To transform Ferrer into Lautrec required the use of platforms and concealed pits as well as special camera angles, makeup and costumes. Short body doubles were also used and, in addition, Ferrer used a set of knee-pads of his own design which allowed him to walk on his knees with his lower legs strapped to his upper body (an experience which must no doubt have been painful). He received high praise not only for his performance, but for his willingness to have his legs strapped in such a manner simply to play a role." |
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These old biographical film are good - like the ones about Pasteur, Dr. Ehrlich's Magic Bullet, Madame Curie...and The Life of Emile Zola with Paul Muni...the Van Gogh one with Kirk Douglas is maybe a bit OTT.
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havent seen that emile zola one...have to have a look, seeming as im readng a novel of his at this very moment
i have the 'lust for life' film on video, ott yes but theres still something about it which holds your attention, again, a very sad film, specially in the earlier segments where vincent was acting as a ready made preacher amongst the poor of the belgian mines |
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My brother brings these films down - he gets 4 or 5 films on a disc...and he gets a "free" bet...he let me down the other day when he ran out of good stuff and brought me down Series 1 and 2 of the A-team...
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"In 1972, a crack commando unit was sent to prison by a military court for a crime they didn't commit.
They promptly escaped from a maximum security stockade to the Los Angeles underground. Today, still wanted by the government, they survive as soldiers of fortune. If you have a problem, if no-one else can help, and if you can find them, maybe you can hire the A-Team." |
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Some of my favs; Albrecht Durer, Turner, Severeni and other futurists. Malevich and Tatlin. Grosz and Dix. Modern: Gerard Richter: genius.
Chapman brothers cabbages Hell, saw it last year; monumental! Of Turner prize winners; liked Grayson Perry's pots. Each to your own and its worth what anyone will pay for it. |
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Art students love Richter. His reputation didn't really take off until the early 90s as art critics couldn't really figure out what he was doing.
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The only art to give me joy is Degas' ballerina: he sculpted her with a flat head on which to rest his pint whilst receiving oral gratification.
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Potential Saatchi artist IMO.
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If like me you are very much a layman when it comes to art, I thoroughly recommend 'The Story of Painting: The Essential Guide to the History* of Western Art by Sister Wendy Beckett. It certainly helps me understand things better, so adds to the overall enjoyment. About £10 used on Amazon, but £50 new(out of print I guess). Yikes, mine cost £20 new about ten years ago. Hopefully. Vel will concur or recommend something else.
*No very modern cr@p |