Inside Sport - Mental Illness BBC1 10.45pm

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show opens with that well known nutter Trescothwick

Thanks for the heads up. Forgot about this.

Who got the job of explaining 'depression' to Bruno???...............probably needed crayons and etch-a-sketch to get his point across

:D

first time ive heard divorce described as two people listening to different radio sattions

Gazza will be on next 1.01

Good programme so far. A shame people on this thread seem to be taking the p.ss.

Frank Bruno on now.

Bruno not the sharpest tool in the box but a v. decent boxer and good lad imo.

positively4thsteet 25 Nov 23:28


Bruno not the sharpest tool in the box

makes Gazza look like einstein imo

He had more courage than was good for him, he just wouldn't take a count. Lewis gave him a frightening beating, still remember when he got the decision against McCall as if it were yesterday. Had something in my eye that night.

Howdi:

been thick isn't the biggest crime in the world. like I say, bruno a good lad imo. and I agree with slippy, was a cracking night when he won the world title. Obviously not a legend like many that went before him, but still a pretty decent boxer. And one of lifes good guys imo.

im only taking the pi55 good guy Frank

frank sent to mental institute for treatment

all was going well ,

until they sounded the dinner bell..

"Get in there Frank"
Harry Carpenter's commentary when he chinned Tyson and had him wobbly, at the time Tyson was flooring everyone that was put before him. I have a great deal of respect for Frank Bruno.

I genuinely don't understand it, especially Trescothick. If he is under pressure/stress why do what seemed to be a video diary in India? He also seemed to have the earpiece in when taking that catch..more stress? Bruno/Gazza more understandable to me as it was when the career ended, like losing a job really

I agree, I don't understand the trescothick thing either. BUT i'm willing to take his word for it.

personally think Tresco is a big wuss.

With Lennon the whole Celtic/N Ireland thing must have been stressfull and injuries like with Kelly Holmes must depress top athletes. The thing I don't get is that given the mental fortitude required to get to the top in anything (especially a profession as ruthless as sport) how does it suddenly seem to become an 'illness'? Lennon said 'if you have flu you take something, if you have a broken leg you take someting'........what exactly do you take for a broken leg?

Frank Bruno becomes World Champion, watching it right now.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N3tGBgZJn2M

yep i'm watching it too now slippy.

Spot on Persues, why on earth is Trescothick wondering around with a webcam (or wahtever it was) in India when he had previously had all the problems.

I'm not saying he is a fake but he has used his condition for financial gain (book sales etc,etc).

Surely if he was 100% genuine he would give 100% of all his earnings (related to his condition not his cricket earnings) to a related charity.

Bruno never was a full shilling.

Come to think ofit neither was Lennon.

I thought Kirwin came out of it the best.

horse sh.it mr G. of course you don't give all your money away. no one does that ffs.

I've marvelled before on here at how well Trescothick coped with the pressure of plugging his book at every opportunity.

4th street, he can keep every penny of his earnings from cricket.

I don't think that he should be seen to be profiting from his condition.

I have no doubt that he is profiting from his condition.

He may not be a fake and he may wish to give up every penny to get back to normal but the fact remains that he has used his condition to increase his wealth.

In fact the geezer above who claims he is a wuss isn't far away.

my only regret is that he wasn't diagnosed sooner

Surely if he was 100% genuine he would give 100% of all his earnings (related to his condition not his cricket earnings) to a related charity.

i) How do you know he doesn't? I know someone who gives 50% of his income to a charity he feels very strongly about. There are only 3 or 4 friends who know that he does it. He doesn't wan't everyone else thinking he's a holier-than-thou do-gooder.

ii) He still had to write the bloody book (or at least collaborate with a ghost writer). That's worth some return in itself.

iii) Would you give away all the money you earned from writing about an illness or affliction you suffered? Really? I know I wouldn't. I might pledge 10% of my royalties to the cause, but certainly not the lot.

As I said earlier, I am just perplexed how these sports people reach the top with all the pressure etc then succumb to this affliction. I simply don't understand and am a little bit sceptical about what they class as 'depression' if I am honest. Trescothick actually said he was worried about scoring the runs to justify his place in the side. Surely that is just normal everyday anxiety?

As far as I can see saying you have got "depression" is just an easy way out of dealing with the pressures of modern life.

What pressures ?

Oh you know...getting up...having a shave...etc

Shave ??

Is It Xmas Day already ?

jimmy69 26 Nov 11:21
As far as I can see saying you have got "depression" is just an easy way out of dealing with the pressures of modern life.

And that statement shows that you are like the vast majority of people who do not understand depression.

True. I wish I could understand it.

Read up on it - its not difficult

Reading about illness is depressing. Think I'll pass.

fair point

Robert Enke biggest example yet of what depression can do to you. Horrible illness.

Still dont understand the Trescothick one though. But then a lot of people used to annoy me by laughing at my brother who has OCD and thought it was a load of rubbish. Just strange illnesses that no one apart from specialist and the afflicted can understand.

Depression is a physical disorder of the brain which can be brought on by psychological stress, drug taking and even allergies. Same for other mental illnesses. If I take vanadium supplements or bone meal tablets I go into a very profound depression, which lifts within a day of stopping them. Eating eggs also puts me into a depression. Amphetamine, cocaine ketamine and PCP will cause mentall illness in genetically predisposed people, case in point being Paul Gascoigne. Cannabis also makes some people psychotic.

Some people seem to be incapable of grasping the fact that the brain is an extremely complicated machine which can malfunction in people with genetic abnormalities.

It's not until you actually know somebody with depression , that you actually begin to understand the seriousness of the condition ......it is just the same as suffering from a serious disease and affects everyone associated with that person.........because it is a problem with the mind , the public seem to think of it as a bit of a joke . Most of the time it is due to chemical imbalance in the brain and is treatable with drugs like most illnesses . Failure to treat can have tragic consequences.....

Evidence points to inflammation (possibly autoimmunity) in neurons which produce serotonin for use in other brain areas. Area in question is called the Raphe nuclei.

had stress rellated depression so feel i can comment.programes such as this nearly always tell you the mental affects but never tell the physical affects.my stress and panic attacks were so bad i was having blackouts, stomach problems (diarreah or constipation)headaches palpatations and chest pains.the mental side was even worse.used to feel guilty about the way i felt and beat myself up about being ill.just coming out the other side now mentally but might be left with a phsical problem .my left side is numb and having dizzy spells and have to go for a brain scan.have been told might be ms which can be caused stress related illnesses.done the macho thing and ignored it for years ,does nt work.

had stress rellated depression so feel i can comment.programes such as this nearly always tell you the mental affects but never tell the physical affects.my stress and panic attacks were so bad i was having blackouts, stomach problems (diarreah or constipation)headaches palpatations and chest pains.the mental side was even worse.used to feel guilty about the way i felt and beat myself up about being ill.just coming out the other side now mentally but might be left with a phsical problem .my left side is numb and having dizzy spells and have to go for a brain scan.have been told might be ms which can be caused stress related illnesses.done the macho thing and ignored it for years ,does nt work.

Good luck ...