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By:
STUDYFORM
When: 19 Nov 09 09:22
I like this thread.
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By:
travelling_man..
When: 19 Nov 09 10:04
I seem to remember reading somewhere that Britons were entitled to bear arms until about 100 years ago. Started with swords and included firearms when they were invented.
By:
Dylan1975
When: 19 Nov 09 10:06
Britain has become a gun free heaven hasn't it.
By:
Big Charlie
When: 19 Nov 09 11:08
CO19 may disagree with that.
By:
DonWarro
When: 19 Nov 09 14:29
just been unbanned and allowed to post :)

few things on this one.

firstly, the firearms case. read the comments made by prosecutor and judge - case was a "strict liability" charge, and the defendants intent or lack thereof was "irrelevant".

what does this mean? it simply confirms like i have been saying, that the charges which arise from statute, are merely contractual obligations. by turning up at the court, and pleading (guilty or non guilty), he is effectively guilty automatically because his presence indicates his consent to contract. by consenting to contract he is accepting the transaction. the consideration (meaning something of value in contracts, both parties must put something up that they agree is odf equal value) he is getting is in imprisonment! because he has agreed to it by contract (in which there is no mention of an exception with regard to handing a weapon in that one has found). he owes imprisonment - this is the liability - as his side of the contract. lol.

when will people wake up to this fact - you're stuck in commerce - all these statutes are only valid with your consent, which the government assumes. you can retract that consent and tell them to fk off. or you can carry on as you are and get locked up even when playing the good samaritan...

re gun ownership. it appears to be european propaganda and brainwashing has caused us to think that we do not need to be armed. a fundamental right of a free human being is the right to defend oneself. government's nowadays preach collective protection, ie they will protect us, but how are they doing? do you think you would be more likely or less likely to be robbed if people knew you had a gun? and what if, no matter how unlikely you think it is, what if we need to protect ourselves from government? as above they have already tricked the population into unknowlingly giving up their human rights, and have tricked you all into contract with them.... for money and control. it is becoming more visible to us because they are getting greedy, and collecting in cases such as the one in question.

someone mentioned the right to be armed - under common law (the law of england) we STILL have the right to be armed. regrettably you do not retain these rights unless you claim them, and claim youself to be a human being. so, being registered with society, and having accepted that you are a mere corporation/employee of the state and not a human being (through your tacit consent, ie your silence means you consent!) you now only have the "rights" that they give you. these are known as privileges - and as everyone knows, a privilege can be taken away at any point, with or without reason. how safe do you feel now about government??

you can never get rid of all guns. all that has happened is that registered members of society are banned from owning guns, but the criminals still have them.

a nice example re gun prohibition NOT WORKING, is the town of Kennesaw in Georgia, USA. a statute was passed making it mandatory for the head of every household to have at least one gun. violent crime promptly fell 74% the following year and a further 45% the year after.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1818862/posts

but the european socialists must be right eh - gun ownership is a silly idea and they must all be banned.... lol. may i say wp to whomever above mentioned the disarming of populations prior to genocides. and consider also the frame of mind of the germans at the time - they thought they were doing the right thing. they thought their government was doing the right thing. large sections of society were crying out for the government to do what they did (as a result of them having been fed some nice propaganda in the media, just like you are today) - they were busy getting on with their lives, oblivious to any political detail, and then what happened.... BAM the government started rounding people up.

the americans havent had to use guns to defend themselves, precisely because they have them. government should be scared of the public, not the other way round as is now the case. what great balance check is there in all honesty..
By:
cjhornet
When: 19 Nov 09 14:42
This is the same guy

http://www.thisissurreytoday.co.uk/golf/Man-accused-attacking-DVLA-inspector-broom-walks-free/article-361380-detail/article.html
By:
Ace High
When: 20 Nov 09 06:03
Great find. Well deserved. Guys obv a w1nker.
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