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You are correct mate.

Cheers Eboue. Amazing scenes then! Suppose it staves off boredom if nothing else.

with fun money dk1986, no-one is playing poker seriously, so you will not learn a thing from it

if you start playing $2.50 games, you will actually learn, took me 6 months to get the gist

playing 10cent games is no good either, but good to start but you will really only learn on the $2.50 games

read victoria coren's website, she's brilliant, I've read it and I have learnt a lot from it

poker's a long term game whether to find out whether you're good at it or not

I didn't realise you could win so much on Fun Money. Think I'll stop playing real money and give it a try.

Ovalman 11 Nov 23:21


I didn't realise you could win so much on Fun Money. Think I'll stop playing real money and give it a try.


:^0

I realise that people going all-in because they can't be arsed - rather than because they're bluffing - isn't going to help anyone's game! Thanks for the pointers, punter.

dk1986 11 Nov 23:26
I realise that people going all-in because they can't be arsed - rather than because they're bluffing - isn't going to help anyone's game! Thanks for the pointers, punter.

am guilty of that but very rarely

is this the people going all in at later stages of the game?

if so, its because the big blinds are very high for 1 player to cope with, so they start getting desperate and try to go all in and hope someone else will to have a chance of doubling their *****

in a lot of games, there's bound to be a phase where we're low on *****and we need a big win, so we'd go all in(on a half decent card) hoping someone else will challenge and we'd win!, especially if we want to beat the bubble

but the people who go all-in at the start of games are just being silly, ignore them, and fold

Very early on when in fun money games. I've had three goes in the $0.11 Rookie 9-seater tourneys just to get used to the mechanics of it. Couple people in those went all-in within 5 hands. I didn't follow!

Of course 7p games might as well be fun money, but imo, money is money so to an extent you get a feel for it being real. I know it's not the way to decide whether I can make it pay. Not ready for the step-up yet.

because the 7p games, they go all in, to get the best start in the game, it's only 7p to some people which is nothing

they would thrive on being in the lead

in a $2.50 game, I could go 20 hands without winning one single one, and then on the 21st hand, I'll go aggressive and win say 1000 *****and I'd be in 3000 *****and coming 2nd

it'll all about patience

dk, play tight at the start of a game and loosen up towards the end. Count your *****as a percentage of your stack and not by the amount. If there's a small pot then its not worth risking your tournament if someone goes all in unless your really strong.

you cannot follow the mechanics in a 7p game that's the problem

in $2.50 games, which is the cheapest but fair money, people become serious because $2.50 is a fair amount because if you play 1 every night for a month it comes to $75, so it's not cheap for some people

so don't think $2.50 is a puny game, people are serious on it

my battery's about to run out, i'll check back tomorrow.

i disagree punter, 10c is ok to learn on.

That makes sense. All three times the first person to reach 4000 *****(from 2000) finished in the top three - and so got a return. They can wait for each other to knock themselves out.

Patience is something I lack. I like seeing things happen. :D

Of course if I was playing for more I'd change my mindset.

i disagree, but lets learn to disagree if your battery is to run out

Not the coin-operated laptop battery again Ovalman! ;)

well dk, don't do this right now, but if you feel you're ready to play $2.50 games, play 3 in one go, 20mins start apart, and that way you'd have 3 games switching at action level pretty soon, which should make it interesting

I will heed the advice of moving to $2.50 games, then settle there for a while. Thanks for the advice punter, and Oval. Off to bed now. :)

well have a good nights sleep, as long as you got the money for 30games, and you'll get a better understanding I reckon

good luck

some general advice for beginners:

buy the poker mags, (there are always offers for $5 subscription for the year knocking around), or pick them up from local casino. you get 2 or 3 password freerolls from them with decent prizes, (like $1000 upto $10000), and often run in series or league formats. they play extremely well for freerolls. certainly a lot better standard than most games upto $10.

read books, watch videos and play loads to learn. then think carefully about the games that suit you, ie holdem, omaha, ring games, mtts, stts, fieldsize and the sites themselves. lots of people will moan about this site, or that site and how they cannot win etc. very often this is to do with the play dynamics of the site. scandis and other europeans are quite loose and aggressive, whereas americans are often tight aggressive or weak passive. if you can adjust to eac dynamic your going to go a long way, if you can identify your preferred dynamic and only play in those games then your going to do well enough if you have the discipline.

I bring my netbook to bed and use it until the battery runs out :)

I came from a freeroll background and progressed on to low stakes STT's. While I rarely play freeroll's anymore, I can still be found at the odd $2.50 but generally play $5 and $10 STT while dabble a bit higher if I feel the table is right. 10 cents will have more bad players than a $2.50 but its a good place to try things out if you don't know what your doing.

Agree with Jim, there is no right site nor right game to play for a beginner. For a beginner, I would concentrate on my starting hands and learn about position. One big tip I got very early on was that small pocket pairs 22 (upwards) were worthless on a flop that they didn't hit - so don't go chasing. You can learn about pot odds etc at a later time.

Remember, the cards are as random for everyone, if you lose a hand ask yourself why and don't blame the site. Go back over the hand and see if you made a mistake. If you made the mistake, learn from it, if it was your opponent then that's even better, the less mistakes you make, the more you will win. I still make a load of mistakes but I can beat the level's I play at.

Couple of useful sites:

http://www.cardplayer.com/poker-tools/odds-calculator/texas-holdem

You can analyse some hands here.

www.sharkscope.com

5 free searches per day on STT opponents, use it on yourself initially.

Also, read posts and ask for help on the various poker forums.

HTH

should set up a little forum game, everyone just jump in the same tournament

Thanks for the advice everyone. I have only started playing poker the last two months so any advice is very welcome.

annie i heard you have a top pair ;)

best advice is to never play

even if you win, you ultimately lose

I thought you were a winning player CB?

lol, redbag. It has crossed my mind that if ever I became any good at poker then my gender would come in very handy, if chit chatters are any guide!

This is the most difficult time, ever for beginners.

I would advise not even bothering.

The standard is so high compared to 5 years ago.

of course oval or i wouldn't play

i didn't mean losing as monetarily

I wouldn't advise anyone to start playing, and if you do start, then play as little as possible!

$2.50 games are a joke. Raises mean nothing and people will just keep calling and calling until you get a bad beat. The only way to play the low stakes games is to be really tight. The problem comes when you flop a great hand, raise, someone else re-raises with sod all then they hit 2 cards in a row. Happens all the time to me so I've given up. It's no good when first hand you get AA stick in 10% of your *****and get 6 people go with you. That isn't poker it's a lottery.