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positively4thsteet
08 Nov 09 07:41
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Well bedsit to be fair. can't believe how cheap it is. less than 10 mins walk from the train station, and 30 mins on a train to central london. unbelievable.

How much does it cost to put in a wc and a couple of basins? one grand?

I've organised a viewing for tomorrow, could put maybe 10k down and if i got work contracting could buy the whole fkin thing in one year. a mortgage would only be 110ish a month.

Anyone know of any potential sticking points?

1. High maintenance/ground rent etc
2. living next door to undesirables/junkies/dealers etc i used to live on down's road, (in fact someone once threatened to slice my neck there) and it wasn't brilliant, but it certainly wasn't the worst - nothing like marsh farm or hackney.
3. might've overstretched myself here, 1 and 2 are the only concerns i have atm.
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Report luddite • November 8, 2009 7:42 AM GMT
Anyone know of any potential sticking points?

Luton
Report positively4thsteet • November 8, 2009 7:43 AM GMT
that was covered in point 2 luddite.
Report luddite • November 8, 2009 7:50 AM GMT
Cr@p Towns II - The Nation Decides 2004

THE 10 WORST TOWNS
1-Luton
2-Windsor
3-Sunderland
4-Glasgow and Edinburgh
6-Clapham
7-Bath
8-Nottingham
9-Corby
10-Middlesbrough
Report Robbie_Box • November 8, 2009 7:51 AM GMT
I agree with Ludd... It's LUTON
Report positively4thsteet • November 8, 2009 7:52 AM GMT
Luton's alright.
Report positively4thsteet • November 8, 2009 7:53 AM GMT
as it happens, down's road is right close to the police hq and the madge court.

safe as houses.
Report positively4thsteet • November 8, 2009 7:56 AM GMT
reckon so long as you do it up and make it look smart you could get 300/month for it = 12% yield.

surey it would be worth at least 40k if you made it look smartish.

(unless there are squatters junkies next door. might have to gas them out)
Report sparkmaster. • November 8, 2009 7:57 AM GMT
are you looking to live there or rent it out?
Report luddite • November 8, 2009 7:57 AM GMT
Luton

Dismal large town about 30 miles north of English capital London. Very, very, very grey. Concrete is in fashion here. Divided into "poor bit" where most of the chavs live, and "Slightly less poor bit" where the pseudo-middle-class chavs live. Luton is unbelievably dull, containing about four decent drinking/entertainment establishments. The rest of the town is coated with **e buildings containing **e nightclubs with **e music and**my patrons. If you come seeking fine cuisine then be sure to avoid most of the town, and focus most of your energy on finding one of our two fine restaurants (If you don't like Indian or Thai, you're boned). Alternatively you could visit one of our many Burger King or McDonalds "restaurants" and share greasy cow rectum burgers with our population of frequently drunk and often amusing "street folk." Keep in mind that if they approach you, you DON'T HAVE ANY SPARE CHANGE. If you want somewhere to stay, I hope you like concrete and mysterious smells.

Luton: You'll come for the sights, you'll stay because you're dead.

Urban Dictionary
Report JOMO • November 8, 2009 8:00 AM GMT
Is it structurally sound?
Report sparkmaster. • November 8, 2009 8:01 AM GMT
Luton, or the flat

You're talking about the birthplace of Vaughan Savidge, announcer , so be respectful.
Report positively4thsteet • November 8, 2009 8:02 AM GMT
sparky:

live there first. at moment spending fifty quid rent and 37 on travel every week. working for counci, so if i live in luton can rack up loads of flexi time hours and have lots of time off and save nearly 350 quid a month.

would only fancy slumming it there for a short time to get it looking smartish, then could go smewhere better. my salary is sh.ite atm (was getting 4 times as much during the boom years), the hope is that i can get contractig work in london sometime next spring onwards and can buy something much better.

29950 is a steal imo.
Report JOMO • November 8, 2009 8:03 AM GMT
:D
Report YER MAN • November 8, 2009 8:04 AM GMT
positively4thsteet, when i bought a house in Bletchley some years ago, i phoned the local cop shop and asked what the street/area was like, was it high crime/drugs area?

Told me it was ok, a nice quiet place, which it was.

Might be worth you doing the same?
Report positively4thsteet • November 8, 2009 8:07 AM GMT
might do that yer man.

i lived on that road once though - up the top end where it is a bit rougher. this place is closer to the town end. there's a fekkin ballet school at the town end. It was not over run with ethnics either. it's not exactly the bronx.

i know luton isn't great, but not all of it is sh.it. marsh farm i wouldn't touch with a barge pole admittedy.
Report sparkmaster. • November 8, 2009 8:09 AM GMT
Buy it IMO, value is only gonna go up.
Report positively4thsteet • November 8, 2009 8:10 AM GMT
forgot the link

http://www.rightmove.co.uk/property-for-sale/find.html?searchType=SALE&locationIdentifier=REGION%5E876&insId=2&radius=0.0&displayPropertyType=&minBedrooms=&maxBedrooms=&minPrice=&maxPrice=&retirement=&partBuyPartRent=&maxDaysSinceAdded=&_includeSSTC=on&sortByPriceDescending=false&primaryDisplayPropertyType=&secondaryDisplayPropertyType=&oldDisplayPropertyType=&oldPrimaryDisplayPropertyType=&oldSecondaryDisplayPropertyType=&newHome=&auction=false&x=126&y=14
Report positively4thsteet • November 8, 2009 8:13 AM GMT
glad you said that sparky. i think i might.
Report positively4thsteet • November 8, 2009 8:17 AM GMT
next on the list:

http://www.rightmove.co.uk/overseas-property/property-13628151.html?locationIdentifier=WORLD_REGION%5E221330&sortByPriceDescending=false&pageNumber=1&fromSummary=true&backToListURL=%2Foverseas-property%2Ffind%2FPortugal%2FWestern-Algarve.html%3FlocationIdentifier%3DWORLD_REGION%255E221330%26sortByPriceDescending%3Dfalse

madeleine mccann aside, this is one of my favourite areas i've been to. 52.5k euros is about 45k quid. shame the pound is so weak, might've only been 35k at the exchange rate of a few years ago. looks like a tidyish little place in a nice area. surely could rent it out for some of the year. would be a nice cheap place for a couple to stay at imo
Report beersexchipsngravy • November 8, 2009 8:21 AM GMT
Luton makes Beirut look pleasent
Report positively4thsteet • November 8, 2009 8:26 AM GMT
Is good for the airport. could leave work at 4pm on a friday evening and be eating octopus on the mediterranean by 8pm.

fkin bonza.
Report Bangers N Mash • November 8, 2009 8:42 AM GMT
3 quid would be too expensive for Luton
Report sparkmaster. • November 8, 2009 8:45 AM GMT
The guy taking the photos needs to clean his lens!
Report sparkmaster. • November 8, 2009 8:48 AM GMT
post gone missing!

Photos are a bit odd - is there any natural light other than through the door?
Report stewardsenquirey • November 8, 2009 8:50 AM GMT
Subsidence would be my worry.
Report positively4thsteet • November 8, 2009 8:56 AM GMT
idk sparky. that door makes it look like a gf flat, but the sloping ceilings make it look like it is top floor.

don't know about light. will find out tomorrow.
Report sparkmaster. • November 8, 2009 8:57 AM GMT
It says the door leads to a balcony? Intriguing!
Report positively4thsteet • November 8, 2009 9:00 AM GMT
yep that door witht the light coming through must be to the "balcony".

the entrance door must be somewhere else.
Report sparkmaster. • November 8, 2009 9:01 AM GMT
hopefully not the one next to it!
Report positively4thsteet • November 8, 2009 9:07 AM GMT
thanks for your advice sparky.

have a good day at sunny barlaston
Report blackjackking • November 8, 2009 9:08 AM GMT
The price sounds great RD, and i know i probably expect too much but maybe its just abit small even for one person?

I think going for the viewing wont hurt and obviously thats gopnna give you the biggest insight, but be critical of the place and if you can see through the faults and the downsides and you still think its a bargain and the place for you then go for it

Good way onto the property ladder
Report V4 Vendetta • November 8, 2009 9:13 AM GMT
Where abouts is it? I just paid £30k for a flat in Luton. Are you sure it's still there?
Report The Knight • November 8, 2009 9:13 AM GMT
Remaining legth of lease (assuming leasehold) and ease of renewal MUST be checked out...
Report positively4thsteet • November 8, 2009 9:16 AM GMT
cheers bjk.

good point the knight.
Report Big Charlie • November 8, 2009 10:35 AM GMT
My audiology consultant lives in Luton.

She says it's a lot better than her previous location, which was Catford, in south east London.
Report digdeep • November 8, 2009 10:37 AM GMT
Would have to pay me a lot more then that to live there.
Report Bamboo • November 8, 2009 10:43 AM GMT
I`d rather live in the slums of nigeria thx
Report STUDYFORM • November 8, 2009 11:52 AM GMT
I used to live in Downs Road, Luton.
Report positively4thsteet • November 8, 2009 11:55 AM GMT
how long ago study? how did u find it?

wasn't too bad when i was there.
Report STUDYFORM • November 8, 2009 11:58 AM GMT
I was working in a Casino there. 1983.
Bloke I worked with had a flat, and I lived there for about 6 months when he worked abroad.
I'm not sure, memory not clear and all that, it might have been called Downs Court.

Private block at the end of Downs rd. Nice flats, were new at the time I think, the area not great, but the applies to the whole town, as you know.
Report Spirit Of My Weigh • November 8, 2009 12:00 PM GMT
The advantage of living in Luton is that you will not be part of a Mono-Culture.
There are representatives from all corners of the Globe.
Its an area blessed with great racial diversity and every racial gang and/or group get on famously with each other, all the time.

Whats not to enjoy?
Report positively4thsteet • November 8, 2009 12:01 PM GMT
i think i know that one. is a new set of flats up that end now - called startpoint. is a bit rough there now, the bottom end of the road not too bad though.

prob quite different back in 1983.
Report STUDYFORM • November 8, 2009 12:03 PM GMT
It was only 2 storeys high, and had its own maintenance man, 2 bedroom iirc. Strange to think it's 26 years ago :(
Report positively4thsteet • November 10, 2009 4:06 AM GMT
update for anyone who is interested.

Saw the flat this morning, not too bad imo, spend a grandon it and it would be tip top. Is in a house with 3 other, bigger, 1 bed flats. is in a right state though,they've all been repo'ed and no one knows who the free holder is (can ensure against this apparently for about ten quid a month in case he turns up and asks for money, which sounds like a bargain to me). Trouble is the communal areas are fked and the garden is a mess, and the flat is on the top,so you have to walk through all that cra.p or sort it out. would be reluctant to spend money sorting it out when it is the freeholder's job.

The final tur.d in the water pipe is that the services are not split, so there are big problems when the other flats come up for sale (they were all bought by the same person with different banks, all v. dodgy). How much does it cost to get them "split"? I'm guessing a lot, anyone an expert in this area. At the very least it is a lawyer job, and I don't really want to fork out for a lawyer if he doesn't tell me what I want to hear. At least I know why it was so cheap.

If sparky or anyone has any advice it would be v. welcome. my instinct is not to touch it with a bargepole.
Report luddite • November 10, 2009 4:35 AM GMT
Spirit Of My Weigh 08 Nov 13:00
The advantage of living in Luton is that you will not be part of a Mono-Culture.
There are representatives from all corners of the Globe.
Its an area blessed with great racial diversity and every racial gang and/or group get on famously with each other, all the time.


Whats not to enjoy?

LUTON
Report sparkmaster. • November 10, 2009 8:06 AM GMT
Sorry mate, I've no idea. Sounds like something a legal expert could make money on, but a money pit for someone like me! I'd steer clear.
Report crediter • November 10, 2009 8:35 AM GMT
rather than get advice on here ...have a word with a local solicitor.....do some searches................by the way i helped build luton airport....jeez it was certainly cold then.
Report positively4thsteet • November 10, 2009 9:05 AM GMT
might leave it I think. If i was loaded and could buy the other 3 and do them
up and rent them out as they cameon the market,it might be a good idea, but
i can't do that. oh well, was a nice idea while it lasted.
Report positively4thsteet • November 10, 2009 9:10 AM GMT
two of my problems were actually sorted straight away...

no loud junkie neighbours to cope with (there are no neighbours)
no excessive monthly fees to the freeholder (there is no freeholder and £10/month covers the lot via insurance)

it had a decent garden which would be bonza with a litle care and attention.
Report TheBetterBettor • January 23, 2017 11:08 PM GMT
60 grand now....doubled the price   Crazy
Report Facts • January 24, 2017 2:23 AM GMT
Whatever happened to the OP ?
Report kenny mann • January 24, 2017 1:48 PM GMT
Facts.


rob dylans internet mate, scandanivian haven, always said that the forum was anonymous.

CMAT proved time and again it wasn’t as he had met quite a few others, such as gogoidle, staggy. pumphol, studyform, donemylot, madmadmoon, thecoat, aspro and buffy.

Fenway and paddy hair came and said hello to CMAT when he was working at the Cheltenham Festival.

Sundancekid, curious cat and josey wales have all visited CMAT’s home separately, and they all got lost as he really did live in the middle of nowhere.

CMAT and studyform worked with joseywales and sevenone on course at The Cheltenham Festival, Royal Ascot and Aintree.

There may be more a few more, that can’t be recalled.

So much for an anonymous forum.

Here’s the funny bit:

CMAT and his other names proved to be quite popular as no less than 5 people (who shall remain nameless) offered him spare accounts when he was banned. And CMAT never hid once, he knew the grasses would get him in the end.

And this is even funnier:

Positively4thsteet (note the missing ‘r’ in street, a sure sign of a person who drinks too much) teamed up with scandanavian haven (another spelling error) and his mate Wesdag, and they decided that CMAT was a sad loser for getting multiple identities to get back on the forum once he was banned.

This is what happened to the OP.

He was recently banned.

He had at LEAST 3 previous names.

He was also ‘E L Wisty’ and ‘rob dylan.’

MULTIPLE ACCOUNTS!

How sad is that after what HE said about CMAT

Perhaps, if he was here, he could explain why he got multiple bans.

Has one of his anonymous forum friends offered him a spare account?

If so, will he have the bottle to show his true identity and risk another ban?

I doubt it.
Report Facts • January 24, 2017 1:57 PM GMT
Blimey !
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