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By:
Splicer Keats
When: 08 Nov 09 12:09
Turning down overtime on the run up to crimbo, well i be fooked.
By:
Hoss
When: 08 Nov 09 12:14
Ill informed you are speedypro.

A traindriver Yoda is :)
By:
speedypro
When: 08 Nov 09 12:16
They don't have to steer and one was caught having a wanck recently. my perception was confirmed at that point.
By:
Hoss
When: 08 Nov 09 12:22
Splicer, I think they got double time for Sundays and had plenty of staff booked up but then they changed the rates to ordinary day rate and as it was voluntary overtime everyone stayed home and left it to the managers.
By:
The Magic Flea
When: 08 Nov 09 12:26
well that is exactly the point. it is management's problem. if they changed the rates, they should have a plan B, not just cancel the services on which people rely
By:
PRETTY IN PINK
When: 08 Nov 09 12:32
Think of the shambles during the olympics in three years time!! Maybe not. Don't bear thinking about! :(
By:
positively4thsteet
When: 08 Nov 09 12:49
The olympics will almost certainly be an unmitigated success all round.

you heard it here first.
By:
inspiron
When: 08 Nov 09 13:16
I blame the foreigners for all this mess.. Vote BNP :)
By:
stewardsenquirey
When: 08 Nov 09 13:19
Hmmm,because Nick Griffin is really going to change the Country ain't he?
Looked a plank on question time(ok the crowd were against him) but totally clueless.
By:
speedypro
When: 08 Nov 09 13:22
The Olympics will be a roaring success.
It won't be a British Olympics though.
It will be a London World Blend Olympics.
By:
punterfleecer
When: 08 Nov 09 13:23
i got a train from Gatwick to London Victoria station, £25 return, I thought that was a bit steep
By:
positively4thsteet
When: 08 Nov 09 13:25
about three hundred quid a month to get from biggleswade to london. if commuting 5 days a week, that is about 7.50 each journey, not bad. and the quick train takes less than 30 mins, right to king's cross .

bargain imo and v.reliable. packed with people though.
By:
punterfleecer
When: 08 Nov 09 13:31
£300 a month just for commuting?

no wonder people would rather drive
By:
stewardsenquirey
When: 08 Nov 09 13:32
Scooter is the way forward surely.Cheap as *****
By:
punterfleecer
When: 08 Nov 09 13:34
i just walk to work every morning, no wonder am minted ;)
By:
stewardsenquirey
When: 08 Nov 09 13:34
lol.Flash Kant ;)
By:
positively4thsteet
When: 08 Nov 09 13:42
300 is cheap imo. to drive to center of london and back 20 times a month is about 2000 miles? What is that in petrol? say 30mpg - approx 60 gallons which is about £250. plus the congestion charge - another £100/month, or is it more. plus wear and tear, road tax, insurance, MOT etc. oh and it would take at least 2hrs each way stuck in traffic. If you get the early trains you always get a seat, you might even be able to do some work on the train, eat your breakfast, read a book, do the crossword, look out the window at the understated bedfordshire and hertfordshire countryside.

trains are fkin brilliant imo.
By:
punterfleecer
When: 08 Nov 09 13:49
I can see Biggleswade is 46 miles from the centre of London, and it costs you £300 a month to commute there and back 5 times a week.

Glasgow to Edinburgh is 47 miles, £8 return, would cost you £160 a month in train fares

£300 and £160 is a large difference, not to mention you're in the London area which has loads of people, train company must be making a killing down there

Easy to get a seat on the glasgow to edinburgh train first thing in the morning
By:
positively4thsteet
When: 08 Nov 09 13:53
what are you saying? are you agreeing or disagreeing with me?
By:
punterfleecer
When: 08 Nov 09 13:55
I'm saying, I think £300 a month to commute on a train that goes 46 miles, is a lot of money and should be halved
By:
positively4thsteet
When: 08 Nov 09 13:58
then they wouldn't make so much profit though.

i think commuters must subsidise the rest of the services eg. day time when no one is on the train, students and old people with saver cards, and all those on the late night p.isss pot express trains on fri/sat cos none of them buy a ticket. But worth it when you take into account how much more money you earn in london.
By:
stewardsenquirey
When: 08 Nov 09 13:58
It will be going up in January also X-(
By:
Gene Hackman
When: 08 Nov 09 13:59
As a matter of interest,how much do you think a train driver earns,including overtime,a year?
And what about signalmen - how much do you think they earn?
By:
punterfleecer
When: 08 Nov 09 14:02
dunno gene hackman

posit4th....well i suppose if the job has a high salary then £300 is affordable

but I would say £300 a month is a lot of money for the average salary, and especially for people who are on minimum wage
By:
stewardsenquirey
When: 08 Nov 09 14:03
Train Drivers are around 32k + and then the benefits I think.Hard job to get into now.
By:
punterfleecer
When: 08 Nov 09 14:03
you have to take in account poorer people(am not a snob) when talking about fare prices
By:
positively4thsteet
When: 08 Nov 09 14:03
you wouldn't commute from biggy to london to work at mcdonalds though would you.
By:
Gene Hackman
When: 08 Nov 09 14:04
You're right SE.
45K+
Signalmen?
By:
stewardsenquirey
When: 08 Nov 09 14:04
Just stick 5p in one of those permit to travel machines and pay the fair if collared ;)
By:
punterfleecer
When: 08 Nov 09 14:06
you might be surprised pos4thstreet, people'll look for a job anywhere
By:
Moon Light
When: 08 Nov 09 23:51
Signal boxes all automated.
Signalmen are history.
By:
yeahyeahwhatever
When: 09 Nov 09 00:36
train drivers earn 32k!? I didn't think they were anywhere near that...

quite shocked
By:
Ken Masters
When: 09 Nov 09 07:49
Train drivers salary is only half the story, their commute is free and they always get a seat.
By:
Back High Lay Low
When: 09 Nov 09 08:03
and they can bet on golf tournaments whilst driving.
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