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08 Nov 09
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Apologies for all the threads, bit bored and will be at home all day.
Medicine and health care better, though this is not always a blessing imo.
Still loads of wars around the globe, but there always have been.
People shouldn't really go hungry in THIS country any more, nor in the majority of "westernised" countries I presume.
We are wealthier
We have all sorts of fancy technology and gadgets to make life easier, again not necessarily a blessing.
but...
the third world is still largely fked.
impending environmental catastrophe (or is it just hype?)
societal breakdown? or is this just stuff spouted by sentimental old codgers who remember a time when kids didn't roam the streets terrorising the law abiding folk. (is hard to argue with these people, they have the monopoly on the past, and they could tell us what they want!!)
drugs - v widely available and causing no end of harm in this country and others imo.
My instinct is to say things ARE getting better, but is hard to say.
Medicine and health care better, though this is not always a blessing imo.
Still loads of wars around the globe, but there always have been.
People shouldn't really go hungry in THIS country any more, nor in the majority of "westernised" countries I presume.
We are wealthier
We have all sorts of fancy technology and gadgets to make life easier, again not necessarily a blessing.
but...
the third world is still largely fked.
impending environmental catastrophe (or is it just hype?)
societal breakdown? or is this just stuff spouted by sentimental old codgers who remember a time when kids didn't roam the streets terrorising the law abiding folk. (is hard to argue with these people, they have the monopoly on the past, and they could tell us what they want!!)
drugs - v widely available and causing no end of harm in this country and others imo.
My instinct is to say things ARE getting better, but is hard to say.
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Nhs is still p1ss poor in many departments, with big cuts to come, the NHS is officially the 10th best service provider in europe, out of 15, so no is the answer.
Standards of dress have never been lower. Many children do not know how to tie a Windsor not. Some adults even wear shoes with velcro fastenings.
i think u're missing the point dave.
NHS is a bottomless pit funding wise. must be better than when you had no NHS.
NHS is a bottomless pit funding wise. must be better than when you had no NHS.
Lets keep it relevant i cant remember no nhs,so couldnt comment on pre nhs, so its getting worse not better.
but...
the third world is still largely fked.
Entirely I'd say
impending environmental catastrophe (or is it just hype?)
hype.
societal breakdown? or is this just stuff spouted by sentimental old codgers who remember a time when kids didn't roam the streets terrorising the law abiding folk. (is hard to argue with these people, they have the monopoly on the past, and they could tell us what they want!!)
There has always been crime. But the punishments suited it in those days. None of this ASBO b0ll0x for out and out facking yobs. If you stabbed soembody you went down for a good few years, even if he lived. If he died, you were proabaly hanged up until 1965 ?)
drugs - v widely available and causing no end of harm in this country and others imo.
No argument there, But the young of the UK seem to think it's al harmless.
My instinct is to say things ARE getting better, but is hard to say.
My instinct says it isn't.
So if we follow the old adage 'trust your instinct', one of us is wrong.
the third world is still largely fked.
Entirely I'd say
impending environmental catastrophe (or is it just hype?)
hype.
societal breakdown? or is this just stuff spouted by sentimental old codgers who remember a time when kids didn't roam the streets terrorising the law abiding folk. (is hard to argue with these people, they have the monopoly on the past, and they could tell us what they want!!)
There has always been crime. But the punishments suited it in those days. None of this ASBO b0ll0x for out and out facking yobs. If you stabbed soembody you went down for a good few years, even if he lived. If he died, you were proabaly hanged up until 1965 ?)
drugs - v widely available and causing no end of harm in this country and others imo.
No argument there, But the young of the UK seem to think it's al harmless.
My instinct is to say things ARE getting better, but is hard to say.
My instinct says it isn't.
So if we follow the old adage 'trust your instinct', one of us is wrong.
I am awaiting surgery, was told Nov, got cancelled, have had no new date, been suffering about 7 months, stealth cuts already here, real ones next year.
i'd rather live now than 10,20,30 or 40 years ago really ...so i guess yes
sorry to hear that splicer. but i am afraid NHS treatment doesn't come cheap, you could double the budget and there would still be shortages.
i'm lucky enough to have had little dealings with the NHS tbf.
i'm lucky enough to have had little dealings with the NHS tbf.
Since Geldof and Co. raised millions in 1986 for Ethiopia, the population has doubled.
They are still starving.
A good gambler knows that chasing losses is the road to further disaster, but countries still send money.
By 2035 the population will have doubled again, and still be starving.
You wouldn't keep a sick animal alive that long.
They are still starving.
A good gambler knows that chasing losses is the road to further disaster, but countries still send money.
By 2035 the population will have doubled again, and still be starving.
You wouldn't keep a sick animal alive that long.
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I think that's one of the ways they fiddle the waiting lists.
I think that's one of the ways they fiddle the waiting lists.
In terms of what we have and can afford, it has never been better. In terms of society's altruist, it has become worse. But then again, we were told society does not exist
Stealth cuts i am referring to is specialist available, but nursing staff he requires to help carry out proceedures are not,2 consultants sharing nursing staff = experts working at 50% capacity, so it appears to the figure collaters we have plenty of consultants, but what they can do is being rationed by lack of support staff.
society is alright if you live out in the sticks like me. people look out for each other and are friendly and it is largely crime free.
but any poor fekker livig in the rough areas of a town like luton, is largel fekked. but as charlie says, they're has always been crime.
I have got to say that I don't think mass immigration has helped this country an awful lot, other than a few sports stars.
but any poor fekker livig in the rough areas of a town like luton, is largel fekked. but as charlie says, they're has always been crime.
I have got to say that I don't think mass immigration has helped this country an awful lot, other than a few sports stars.
Armed Police patrolling Brixton, Tottenham and Haringey. Dont forget that life expectancy is falling in poor areas. This is all the more larming when we consider the number of infant deaths and war skewed the stats. In some aspects we are better off, but morally, we are in the gutter.
people don't go "beyond the call of duty" anymore, unless there is something in it for them. I think that is what has become worse.
Otherwise, the amount of holidays abroad and other things I have done, I could've only dreamed about affording 20 years ago
Otherwise, the amount of holidays abroad and other things I have done, I could've only dreamed about affording 20 years ago
Every time I go on holiday by the 5th day I can't wait to get home. The only thing that winds me up more than foreigners is rude English people with scant respect for their hosts.
luckily I have never been to one of the places where the hoards of ingerlish go
For a look at the effects of mass immigration in east London, go to the politics forum and read the 'WELCOME TO NEWHAM - HOME OF THE 2012 OLYMPICS' thread.
And even though every crime in the local paper has a link, which proves they're not made up, daft cvnts still accuse me of spreading lies and say the east end is okay.
Even when one of their own, Studyform, a devout lieftie, states it's a shtihole, ad gets worse year on year.
Those who have never lived in these sort of places know fack all.
And even though every crime in the local paper has a link, which proves they're not made up, daft cvnts still accuse me of spreading lies and say the east end is okay.
Even when one of their own, Studyform, a devout lieftie, states it's a shtihole, ad gets worse year on year.
Those who have never lived in these sort of places know fack all.
I lived in bow, was a dump. didn't seem to have a centre or anything just a stretch on the main bow road between stratford and mile end. Luton and Wellingborough much worse imo. Hackney on the other hand was rough as old boots at 3am.
East London was a crime ridden sh1t tip long before mass immigration to be fair.
It was, but they got rid of TB.
Now it's back!
Now it's back!
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Perhpa they're all reading the politics thread.
Perhpa they're all reading the politics thread.
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