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A challenge has been set. I need to play a recognisable song on the guitar (and sing along) by Christmas.

I need your sage advice. Imagine (and I know this will be difficult) that I am an utterly clueless beginner.

What song do you think I could take a crack at?

Thanking you in advance of the abuse.

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By:
nestor
When: 31 Aug 09 15:18
Ori, I have it on the reliable information from my youngest daughter, that Seven Nation Army by White Stripes is the song all beginners can master with comparative ease.
By:
orioles
When: 31 Aug 09 15:32
Won't that just be a noise? I like the White Stripes, but I'm looking for something a bit more, well ... This needs to be an acoustic masterpiece, Nest. Not Segoviaesque, but beyond electric thrash.

There is a considerable forfeit at risk!
By:
cjhornet
When: 31 Aug 09 15:36
Wonderwall imo
By:
Tommy Toes
When: 31 Aug 09 15:37
O, I really have no idea about such things, not being able to play the guitar myself, but I do remember that as a small child a neighbour friend's brother set up 'a group' and whenever I went around there they were always playing 'Norwegan Wood' in the kitchen.

As they were only about 13-15 years old at the time, I would think it was because it was easy to play on the guitar?
By:
Tommy Toes
When: 31 Aug 09 15:38
*Norwegian Wood
By:
Tommy Toes
When: 31 Aug 09 15:38
*Norwegian Wood
By:
everythings gone green
When: 31 Aug 09 15:44
The sustain/feedback bit towards the end of Seven Nation Army would be difficult for a novice imo.
By:
Tommy Toes
When: 31 Aug 09 15:46
Here you go O:

http://www.5min.com/Video/Norwegian-Wood-Easy-Acoustic-Rhythm-Guitar-Lesson-127148710
By:
orioles
When: 31 Aug 09 15:54
NOW, you're talking, TT. Thanks :)
By:
nestor
When: 31 Aug 09 16:00
Altogether now.......

I once had a girl
Or should I say she once had me
By:
Tommy Toes
When: 31 Aug 09 16:01
You're more than welcome, O.

There's quite a few links on instruction, eg:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d6W0XsDAxzM

And here are the guitar tabs:

http://www.fretplay.com/tabs/b/beatles/norwegian_wood-tab.shtml
By:
orioles
When: 31 Aug 09 16:02
This'll teach the buggers for challenging me ]:)

Thanks again!
By:
Tommy Toes
When: 31 Aug 09 16:03
A-one, a-two, a-one-two-three-four, Nestor!
By:
Joe Jordan
When: 31 Aug 09 16:03
Pictures of Matchstick Men always an easy one to master ..by the Quo..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3D4YYI8G5EM

OR Waterloo Sunset by the Kinks ...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fvDoDaCYrEY

might be a bit before your audiences time , but very nice to listen to anyway .. :-)
By:
nestor
When: 31 Aug 09 16:05
I like it, Tommy. Let's have a singsong. I'll be on the comb and tissue paper.
By:
orioles
When: 31 Aug 09 16:07
Waterloo Sunset a favourite, JJ.

Did you watch the hockey? Fantastic stuff :)
By:
Tommy Toes
When: 31 Aug 09 16:08
Okay Nestor! I'll take the spoons!
By:
nestor
When: 31 Aug 09 16:10
We only need a tambourinist and we've got ourselves a band, Tommy. What shall we call ourselves?
By:
boggle
When: 31 Aug 09 16:12
Tommy Toes 31 Aug 17:03


A-one, a-two, a-one-two-three-four, Nestor!


That's unintentionally hilarious considering the song Tommy lol.
By:
Joe Jordan
When: 31 Aug 09 16:12
orioles ..No ..been to 3x Events on 3 days running , so missed it ..
but a Great win ...and totally unexpected tbh ...

But watching the England Womens Soccer Team playing in European Semi Final Now on Eurosport ...ch 410 Sky ...lets hope they do as well as the Mens England Hockey Team :-)
By:
curious-cat
When: 31 Aug 09 16:13
7 little girls ... sitting on the backseat with fred
By:
curious-cat
When: 31 Aug 09 16:14
the guitar work is elementary
By:
orioles
When: 31 Aug 09 16:14
The women took a bronze as well.

The men were superb, great hockey in the final too. Looking forward to 2012.
By:
Tommy Toes
When: 31 Aug 09 16:15
I'll put you down for the tambourine, Boggle!

How about 'The Chit Chat Chanters' Nestor?
By:
curious-cat
When: 31 Aug 09 16:15
and if you could find a backing group of 7 'girls' .... including Big Charlie in a gymslip ....

you'll have them eating out of your hand
By:
boggle
When: 31 Aug 09 16:16
I want one of those sticks with bottle tops nailed to it, if that's ok
By:
Tommy Toes
When: 31 Aug 09 16:18
Okay Boggle. I'll knock one up out if the empties for you!
By:
orioles
When: 31 Aug 09 16:20
This is like being in present at the Indra Club, Hamburg in 1960!
By:
Tommy Toes
When: 31 Aug 09 16:21
Yes indeed O!
By:
boggle
When: 31 Aug 09 16:23
Tea chest bass and we'll be the darlings of the Reeperbahn.
By:
STUDYFORM
When: 31 Aug 09 19:38
I've been showing a mate how to play the geetar recently. What I've noticed with him, and other beginners is;
a, He doesn't bend his left wrist enough - You need to get the TIPS of the fingers pressing the strings. Don't worry too much, the skin will harden a bit and the sore feeling will ease, but it's easier to make the chords than just folding your fingers round the fretboard.

b, He concentrates too much on getting the strumming right (as on the page he's reading), just strum more or less in time to a "basic beat" in your head, which accompanies the song you're playing, the nuances of strumming will follow.

c, He, like nearly all beginner - and some more accomplished - musicians, tends to go a bit fast.
Go slowly - even ridiculously slowly, until your confidence builds. The faster stuff will be easier that way. Try and maintain the same tempo throughout whatever you play, many people end a song playing twice as fast as they started it.
By:
Big Charlie
When: 01 Sep 09 00:43
Tried to teach my niece Study, she can't hold the guitar properly, and she's cack-handed. I gave up after 30 minutes.

Mr O
there is an endless list of songs you can play quite easily once you hold down strings properly, as Study says, with your fingertips.

And again as he says, and my old sensei said the same many years ago: 'Never sacrifice technique for speed.'

If you forget the long 'picking' intro to Hotel California, which you ain't ready for yet, the chord sequence itself is pretty easy, even though there are 7 or 8 chords in it.

Unless you're playing something pretty unusual, all songs come in chord sequences, thousands with 3 chords, same with 4 chords.

Learn a sequence, then shove a groups name iinto Google wiith the word 'chords', hit search, and Bobs your aunts husband.

Don't try Rodrigos Guitar Concerto for at least a week :^0
By:
Big Charlie
When: 01 Sep 09 01:10
ttt for his wigship.
By:
BillKiller
When: 01 Sep 09 02:57
How old is your niece, Charlie? Mine is seven and she's playing Horse With No Name. My nephew who is six can chew out Lay Lady Lay but he's had to stop because my sister says it's 'unsuitable'.

Anyway, he's going to be a boxer, he says. I laugh at him but with his shoulders and my sister's temper (if he controls it) I won't be laughing in ten year's time.
By:
wit-ham
When: 01 Sep 09 07:48
A challenge has been set. I need to play a recognisable song on the guitar (and sing along) by Christmas.

I need your sage advice. Imagine (and I know this will be difficult)


think you picked this yourself big o
By:
Big Charlie
When: 01 Sep 09 10:13
Hello Bill, good to see you again.

My niece is 15, and her best friend, Lauren, was given an electric guitar for her birthday. Laurens brother plays, so he taught her a few 'power chords' and how to hold it properly. She can now smash out some songs and can also jump up and down while doing it, which is apparently compulsory if you're between 13 and 19. :^0

Niece, however, is cack-handed, like me. But I was taught by a right hander and found it easy. She can't grip the guitar properly, and moans that it hurts her fingers. I tried simple chords like E minor but she even has trouble holding down the 4th and 5th strings without blocking the 3rd string, because, as Study pointed out, she won't bend her wrist.

'Lauren doesn't do that.' is all I get when I ask her to bend her wrist.

She's not pounding my electric guitar, so I told her to let Lauren teach her. :)
By:
Joe Jordan
When: 01 Sep 09 10:50
I tried simple chords like E minor
========================
OMG ...BIG C is getting all technical now :0 :0
By:
Big Charlie
When: 01 Sep 09 17:03
E minor

-------------I--------------------------E
-------------1--------------------------B
-------------I--------------------------G
---------2---I--------------------------D
-------1-----I--------------------------A
--------------I--------------------------E
first fret...^

1 = 1st finger
2 = 2nd finger

Simples :)
By:
overboard
When: 01 Sep 09 17:23
Orioles
The key is bringing your left hand in cleanly ( assuming you are indeed right handed).
Best tip I read on this was put a credit card on a table. Now pick it up with your left hand. THAT is the shape you need to transfer to the fretboard.
I could teach you to play Michael Rowed the Boat in about 10 minutes. Easily win your bet. Another good tip above was don't get too caught up with the strumming. Just do it. It will come out ok in the end and will be intuitive. Too many people look at their right hand instead of their left.
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