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THE CATT
05 Nov 09 18:08
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Asus x51r laptop....all power is there but wont boot up, fan running but just black screen..

Any suggestions thanks???

All lights come on when you press the power button and it sounds like it starts up but nothing...
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Report crediter November 5, 2009 6:28 PM GMT
pin in pc...power lead goes into ...gone into pc...is it repairable.
Report ROCKIN HORSE November 5, 2009 6:28 PM GMT
THE CATT
Hi .have you tried booting into safe mode firstb ? turn pc off,turn back on ` and IMMEDEATLY start pressing f8 key
Report crediter November 5, 2009 6:28 PM GMT
pin in pc...power lead goes into ...gone into pc...is it repairable.
Report crediter November 5, 2009 6:28 PM GMT
pin in pc...power lead goes into ...gone into pc...is it repairable.
Report THE CATT November 5, 2009 6:28 PM GMT
nothing ovalman..
Report Andy Murray November 5, 2009 6:28 PM GMT
if it comes to it creditor u can just get a new power unit, not too expensive
Report THE CATT November 5, 2009 6:29 PM GMT
creditor??
Report THE CATT November 5, 2009 6:29 PM GMT
is it supposed to bleep?? because its not
Report Andy Murray November 5, 2009 6:30 PM GMT
i dont think all beep, some do, just something i've always associated with the bootup process
Report crediter November 5, 2009 6:30 PM GMT
pin in pc..power inlet m8.
Report Ovalman. November 5, 2009 6:31 PM GMT
Try Fn + F6
Report ROCKIN HORSE November 5, 2009 6:31 PM GMT
have you got anything plugged in ,USB periphirals,dongles etc,take them ALL out and try to boot
Report Andy Murray November 5, 2009 6:31 PM GMT
try fn + f6
Report BIG GURU November 5, 2009 6:34 PM GMT
Remove battery and power source,hold power on button down for 45secs,replace battery and power and switch on(this worked for some people with the same problem as you)
Report BIG GURU November 5, 2009 6:40 PM GMT
crediter,my son has repaired 3 different makes of laptop with this problem,local shop should be able to do it
Report crediter November 5, 2009 6:42 PM GMT
yeah he says....have to send away ,minimum charge will be £100....
Report THE CATT November 5, 2009 6:43 PM GMT
ok, tried external monitor, no good..

nothing plugged into the laptop,

i have noticed the lights are on for hibernation zz lights
Report BIG GURU November 5, 2009 6:45 PM GMT
It is quite a tricky job but I would have thought any good local repair shop would manage it.Maybe try a different shop?
Report Ovalman. November 5, 2009 6:45 PM GMT
Try Fn F4
Report TambourineMan. November 5, 2009 6:46 PM GMT
http://support.asus.com/troubleshooting/troubleshooting.aspx?SLanguage=en-us
Report crediter November 5, 2009 6:46 PM GMT
think its a standard charge for this guru....
Report THE CATT November 5, 2009 6:47 PM GMT
ive tried all the fn and fs
Report THE CATT November 5, 2009 6:48 PM GMT
the zz light is on all the time
Report Andy Murray November 5, 2009 6:49 PM GMT
you tried it plugged into the mains with the battary out?
Report TambourineMan. November 5, 2009 6:49 PM GMT
CATT
Go the FKN page I posted.
Report THE CATT November 5, 2009 6:50 PM GMT
ok didnt see it sorry,, dont swear
Report THE CATT November 5, 2009 6:56 PM GMT
: Ever added the memory?

1.1: Ever added the memory. -- Remove the added memory for a try.

1.1.1: Problem solved. -- Hardware compatible issue.

1.1.2: Problem persists. -- 1.2

1.2: Didn't added the memory. -- Update the BIOS & drivers to the latest version.

1.2.1: Problem solved. -- Software issue.

1.2.2: Problem persists. -- 1.3

1.3: Scan for virus.

1.3.1: Virus found. -- Try to delete the virus by using antivirus software.

1.3.1.1: Problem solved. -- Virus issue.

1.3.1.2: Problem persists. -- 1.4

1.3.2: No virus found. -- 1.4

1.4: Reinstall the OS for a try.

1.4.1: Problem solved. -- OS problem.



THIS IS WHAT IT SAYS ???
Report THE CATT November 5, 2009 6:57 PM GMT
HOW CAN YOU DO THIS IF IT WONT BOOT UP..
Report BIG GURU November 5, 2009 6:58 PM GMT
CATT,try what I said
Report THE CATT November 5, 2009 6:59 PM GMT
ALREADY TRIED THAT, THOUGHT IT WOULD WORK BUT NO GOOD :(

sorry caps
Report ROCKIN HORSE November 5, 2009 7:04 PM GMT
Catt the problem is its stuck in hibernation mode,take the battery out power up on mains ,pull laptop input plug out (dont use on off switch)wait a few minutes ,put battery back in ,try to boot you might get a mode screen to reset to a best known configuration
Report THE CATT November 5, 2009 7:06 PM GMT
cheers, ill try that..back in 2 mins
Report THE CATT November 5, 2009 7:10 PM GMT
no good, just the same.. zz lights still on...
Report THE CATT November 5, 2009 7:12 PM GMT
could this be a vista bug?????
Report cunnybobbler November 5, 2009 7:14 PM GMT
can you boot up in safe mode?
Report ROCKIN HORSE November 5, 2009 7:15 PM GMT
This is a` common problem ,but sometimes its a tough nut to crack,leave battery in turn on as you turn on plug in mains plug,try some permutations with the mains plug,you are trying to cause an error that will bring the reset to best configuration screen up on boot I've ]seen this a few times,DONT repeately put the power plug in and out as this might trip something just now and again
Report THE CATT November 5, 2009 7:17 PM GMT
cant start safemode... ill try rockinhorse..
Report cunnybobbler November 5, 2009 7:22 PM GMT
ok i didnt think so. just checking cos i had a virus that gave me a black screen pretty much instantly on starting up, took me about 2 hours of trying until i finally got it to boot in safe mode.
Report THE CATT November 5, 2009 7:23 PM GMT
this is a real pain.....
Report ROCKIN HORSE November 5, 2009 7:24 PM GMT
have you tried to boot into bios instead of safe mode? repeatedly press the del key on boot,once in, reset bios to default settings (look around you will see it and what key ro press)
Report THE CATT November 5, 2009 7:25 PM GMT
ill try that now thanks
Report THE CATT November 5, 2009 7:28 PM GMT
still no joy on pressing DEL key repeatidly
Report ROCKIN HORSE November 5, 2009 7:30 PM GMT
Try f1 instead of del different on all laptops,
Report THE CATT November 5, 2009 7:32 PM GMT
ok
Report THE CATT November 5, 2009 7:33 PM GMT
f1 still no good, this is a hard one... feels like its in a coma
Report speedypro November 5, 2009 7:35 PM GMT
Have you got a boot cd or a windows cd to put in the cd drive.
Report THE CATT November 5, 2009 7:36 PM GMT
ive got a xp cd but this is vista
Report ROCKIN HORSE November 5, 2009 7:37 PM GMT
catt thats the perfect analogy,I dont think your laptop is cabbaged'get the right procedure to get it out of hibernation mode is what is needed I think 99%
Report THE CATT November 5, 2009 7:38 PM GMT
i think your right rockinhorse, just needs the right combo i think to start up but running out of ideas, how much would it cost to**? if i took it somwhere
Report ROCKIN HORSE November 5, 2009 7:39 PM GMT
point is if you cant get into bios you wont be able to instruct the laptop to boot from cd
as Sherlock Holmes would say its a 10 pipe problem,I'll look around see if I can come up with a solve for it
Report ROCKIN HORSE November 5, 2009 7:41 PM GMT
I have actually had this problem ,the very same,eventually I got the revert to best configuration screen up it was a power/ battery**
Report THE CATT November 5, 2009 7:45 PM GMT
thank mate,
Report ROCKIN HORSE November 5, 2009 7:46 PM GMT
There is a possible work around that might jolt it into normal mode,if the CMOS battery (internal) is removed and put back after an hour or so (maybe longer as capacitors holding charge keeping volatile memory alive)
Report THE CATT November 5, 2009 7:47 PM GMT
so keep the battery out for an hour ?
Report THE CATT November 5, 2009 7:49 PM GMT
ill take it out and put it back in later, thanks rockinhorse, ill be back on later or in the morning
Report ROCKIN HORSE November 5, 2009 7:49 PM GMT
well your laptop main battery yes ,but there is an internal one ,a CMOS that keeps configurations, your laptop is stuck in hibernation setting, it has been known leaving a battery overnight to sort it though
Report ROCKIN HORSE November 5, 2009 7:51 PM GMT
It is fixable m8 dont worry,its finding the**for that particular laptop,if I find anything I'll post on here ,gl
Report THE CATT November 5, 2009 7:55 PM GMT
ok cheers, i will try to locate the internal battery..carefully lol
Report Jimbo747 November 5, 2009 7:59 PM GMT
If you're near derby I'll have a look at it tomorrow for you.
Think rockin horse is on the right track definitely sounds like a bios problem - corrupt memory imo.

Sorta skipped through the thread, but I'm assuming you've done the usual checking such as removing harddrive, remove memory / wipe with cloth / replace etc

If you're going to open the lappy up, remove the main battery first ;)
On the motherboard will be a jumper, near the cmos battery. It may have a plastic jumper to short pins 2-3, otherwise you can do something similar with a screw driver and short the two solder mounts on motherboard. Or take battery out, and then leave for at least 30 mins for charge to dissipate.
Report THE CATT November 5, 2009 8:04 PM GMT
Cheers jimbo, if i take out the internal battery for an hour will i lose any important info...

Unfortumatley im not by derby but thanks for that, im in brum...

i have removed memory and put back in thats about it..
Report THE CATT November 5, 2009 8:05 PM GMT
going to take the back off.. laters
Report ROCKIN HORSE November 5, 2009 8:12 PM GMT
no you wont lose any info,its just bios settings,they can be reset to default anyway,if you have a digital camera take a snapshot,so if you get into trouble where anything goes,you can quickly sort it,remember the + - positions on the battery as you take it out,theres a good vchance it will work,if it does go into settings in control panel and switch off hibernation mode
Report TambourineMan. November 5, 2009 8:16 PM GMT
This from a Website.....

OMG! It worked! :D
My Asus X51R has been refusing to boot for about 3 months now due to "CMOS Battery Low", "CMOS Corrupt" and "CMOS Date/Time Not Set", and I have been unable to do anything due to both the F1 (continue) and F2 (Setup) asked for a BIOS password that I never set.

None of the default BIOS passwords I tried worked, and I had quite honestly given up hope.

But after following your instructions (holding the power button without any power source connected for 45 seconds), it now boots up perfectly.

The F1/F2 alternatives still appeared the first time I booted it, but without password requirements.

You're a lifesaver :)
Report THE CATT November 5, 2009 8:49 PM GMT
tamborineman, thanks for that but have tried it a few times..

cant find internal battery ggrrr.. dont wont to dig too deep
Report uncle monty November 5, 2009 8:53 PM GMT
throw in bin. its broken.
Report ROCKIN HORSE November 5, 2009 8:57 PM GMT
catt could be encased in yellow plastic,but usually looks like a silver coin smaller than a 10p piece
Report ROCKIN HORSE November 5, 2009 8:58 PM GMT
to be honest if your laptop is over 4 years old merely replacing this battery with a new one (e bay about £1) could sort it right away
Report Jimbo747 November 5, 2009 9:05 PM GMT
And if you dont have a battery, go to a local pound shop, they will have packs of batteries that have all different sizes - bound to have the one your lappy needs.

Battery on most laptops I seem underneath keyboard towards trackpad, but if you're real unlucky it could be tucked away underneath or towards hinge.
Report ROCKIN HORSE November 5, 2009 9:06 PM GMT
http://linuxdevcenter.com/linux/2006/11/09/graphics/doo_photo_2.jpg
look for something like this
Report THE CATT November 5, 2009 9:42 PM GMT
CHEERS FOR THAT... didnt find the battery try again tommorow...there has to be an easier option..
Report ROCKIN HORSE November 5, 2009 9:47 PM GMT
the thing is if you are used to doing it its a simple procedure,it can bring very good results,as it resets bios and settings to factory state,go on to your laptops website and click on support see if the PDF manual is on there for download,find out where the battery is positioned,personally when you find it I'd just replace it,if it is encased in plastic get the same one off ebay or Maplin may have one,
Report BIG GURU November 5, 2009 9:52 PM GMT
There is a pic of the motherboard here guys,don't know if you will be able to identify the battery from this RH
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ASUS-X51R-MOTHERBOARD-FAULTY-08G2005XA21Q_W0QQitemZ380150348251QQcmdZViewItemQQimsxq20091018?IMSfp=TL091018138002r3172
Report ROCKIN HORSE November 5, 2009 9:56 PM GMT
that white block far left, below it is a black plastic holder (empty) that could be it
Report ROCKIN HORSE November 5, 2009 9:59 PM GMT
The reason you cant see it is,you have taken the bottome base of the laptop off I take it? this looks as thought its under the keyboard,you are looking at the wrong side of the motherboard at present
Report ROCKIN HORSE November 5, 2009 10:10 PM GMT
Thats the problem with laptops they are very intricate to work on,if you are now unsure,screw everything back in place,go to a backstreet repair shop (pc world rip you off,and say its something else no doubt)just get a cmos battery replacement,see how it goes,
Report ROCKIN HORSE November 5, 2009 10:20 PM GMT
heres the manual PDF,you dont have to fill in e mail addy
just numbers in box
http://www.retrevo.com/support/Asus-X51R-Laptops-manual/id/22993dj692/t/2/
Report ROCKIN HORSE November 5, 2009 10:32 PM GMT
catt,looking through the manual there IS an emergency start/shutdown button on the bottom somewhere,you need a paperclip to press it
Report THE CATT November 5, 2009 10:45 PM GMT
nice one i will try that thank you for your help .
Report THE CATT November 5, 2009 10:58 PM GMT
TRYED RESET BUTTON NO CHANGE BUT WAS WORTH A TRY
Report ROCKIN HORSE November 5, 2009 11:02 PM GMT
I think the battery is the best bet ,to reset every thing,but you could fook the whole laptop up tinkering without the right tools ,my advice now,.....get someone to fit a new one poss £10-15
Report THE CATT November 6, 2009 7:52 AM GMT
Ok will do ..thanks for you r help and all that have tried to help me...
Report Templeton Peck November 6, 2009 9:12 AM GMT
Many independent PC repair companies will check it for free and then up to you whether you pay them to**it. That's how I discovered my motherboard was bust and they advised me to just buy a new laptop (they didn't sell laptops so not dodgy advice).
Report THE CATT November 6, 2009 12:40 PM GMT
QUICK UPDATE


Took the laptop apart this morning trying to locate the internal battery...got so far into it and could
not carry on due to lack of knowledge.. i put it all back together and hey presto it fired up... i tried this a few times and it fired up..Now it has gone back in to what ever mode it was in before so a real head scratcher..

WEIRD!!!!
Report padlock November 6, 2009 12:41 PM GMT
buy a decent laptop....
Report (NAP) November 6, 2009 12:43 PM GMT
well done CATT. glad i could help.
Report ROCKIN HORSE November 6, 2009 12:44 PM GMT
catt, when it fires up next time,go into power settings and.switch stand by and hibernation OFF,its looking more like that CMOS battery,not holding settings,are you having any problems with the time display on the laptop,wrong times etc
Report crediter November 6, 2009 12:47 PM GMT
some clever people here....well done.
Report THE CATT November 6, 2009 12:47 PM GMT
didnt get that far.. im waiting untill it fires up again (if)..where is the settings for hibernate??
Report ROCKIN HORSE November 6, 2009 12:51 PM GMT
usually,control panel...system..power options
try to purge latent power,take battery out,unplug from mains,kep on button pressed for 30s press reset with paper clip,power up again
Report THE CATT November 6, 2009 1:37 PM GMT
im trying all thAT,, what a GAME HEY
Report THE CATT November 6, 2009 1:39 PM GMT
THERE ARE TWO PADLOCK ICONS BY THE POWER BUTTON AND WHEN IT DID COME ON THEY WERE LIT UP, WHEN I TRY NOW THEY DONT LIGHT UP AND THATS HOW I KNOW WHEN IT IS NOT GOING TO WORK

Sorry caps
Report ROCKIN HORSE November 6, 2009 1:49 PM GMT
it appears you press ESC as soon as you start this laptop to get into bios (wish they would standardize this!!!) if you get in go into power options in bios,try to switch off stand by/hibernate settings in there
Report ROCKIN HORSE November 6, 2009 1:57 PM GMT
catt might have found something,
click the start button.and the arrowhead next to the lock icon
also there is a power mode toggle button on this laptop look for an key wth a peson running on it
Report THE CATT November 6, 2009 1:57 PM GMT
i will if it ever powers up again lol...
Report ROCKIN HORSE November 6, 2009 1:58 PM GMT
*person running on it
Report THE CATT November 6, 2009 2:00 PM GMT
yes there is a key with a person running on it next to the power button
Report THE CATT November 6, 2009 2:02 PM GMT
arrowhead??
Report ROCKIN HORSE November 6, 2009 2:03 PM GMT
Catt there are LOTS of power settings on this particular laptop
you need to download this and read it all


heres the manual PDF,you dont have to fill in e mail addy
just numbers in box
http://www.retrevo.com/support/Asus-X51R-Laptops-manual/id/22993dj692/t/2/
Report THE CATT November 6, 2009 2:04 PM GMT
thanks for this
Report ROCKIN HORSE November 6, 2009 2:04 PM GMT
use Foxit pdf reader to read it (free and easy)
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