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With the Gold Cup wide open is there the possibility that Iroko might be rerouted here rather than Grand National ? If he runs in Cotswold and performs well 66/1 could look generous.
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Good shout, Hib
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Sortudo reappears on Sunday in the Grade 1 Ballymore Novice Hurdle over 2m4f.
He’s my biggest antepost position for Cheltenham at 40/1 and 33/1 but that is looking a bit dicey now. He had been around 11/8 antepost but at declaration stage Paul Townend has opted to ride Saint Baco and so he is now a warm favourite with Sortudo out to 7/2 with Patrick Mullins on board. Have to say I would much prefer Danny Mullins to be in the plate after he rode him last time. |
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Im having a fever for the opener, 33s far too big, never dabble AP but had few quid on today
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^Do you mean a fiver on Sortudo at 33/1?
He is over 100 on here, I’ve had a bit on that just in case. |
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No mate, Bambino
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Bar maybe Final Demand for the browns is there any value in anything antepost atm?
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Well despite getting beat I was perfectly happy with the run of Sortudo at Naas. The omission of hurdles up the straight meant there was only one hurdle in the last 3/4 of a mile and that meant the all the way winner could kick on early. Patrick Mullins loomed up going best but just couldn’t get past on the long uphill run to the line. It was miles back to the third.
The Old Course at Cheltenham will suit him much better and he still strikes me as a great bet now he has been pushed out to 20/1 so have gone in again. I’ve also had a decent saver on here for the Supreme at an average of 110 just in case they drop him back. |
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Cheltenham trials day was eventful, mostly for all the wrong reasons.
Obviously hopes and prayers go out to Sir Gino and hope he lives, whether to fight another day or not. Have never been keen on The New Lion for the CH and today’s run didn’t change that at all. The Old Course will suit him less well you would think so hard to see why he is so short. Spillanes Tower won the Cotswold Chase cosily enough but was getting 6lb from the runner up. It was good to see him looking really well though and he is definitely a player and the 25/1 straight after looked big, All hinges on the Irish Gold cup next week as to how the market might look in March. |
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A smooth win for Shuttle Diplomacy (mentioned in op) at Naas today which was a nice boost for King Rasko Grey.
Hoping KRG can put up a big performance in the Grade 1 at the Dublin Festival next week. Shuttle Diplomacy is 50/1 for the Turners which in an open renewal looks fair, though the trainer also mentioned the possibility of going for a handicap. Good to hear that Sir Gino is doing ok. |
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One of my few bets ante post this year is in the Supreme and was hoovering up odd bits and pieces on Sober Glory around the 75/85 level until they disappeared today .Only reason was that I thought it was totally unsuited to jumping right handed at Sandown , yes it won a NHF at Exeter fwiw , but looking at its hurdle runs at Chepstow and Newbury , it just seems to take a left step before its takeoff . TBF its jumping at Sandown wasnt that bad , but it rattled plenty and given it was its second jumps and first right handed I thought it might have affected its head .
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Not sure where Captain Hugo would go next if he wins at Musselburgh tomorrow. I still rate him very highly but he has a very good horse to beat in Mossy Fen Road. Agree with Uncle about The New Lion. Surely no way he can beat Golden Ace and there are plenty of others to beat as well.
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Well an ‘interesting’ first day of the DRF on ground which was barely raceable..
Brighterdaysahed won the Champion Hurdlexagain but given her form at Cheltenham I couldn’t back her with counterfeit at 5/2. Assuming better, even soft, ground, at the Festival in March I’d fancy Lossiemouth to beat her but no doubt Mullins will be doing everything he can to get Ricci to go for 5he Mares again. Final Demand ran a shocker and given his shirt price it makes me think of Il Etait Temp at Sandown and A Plus Tard at Haydock. ![]() ![]() Barry O’Connell was a total idiot for running Marine Nationale. His big mouth over the last few weeks meant he couldn’t back out. At least he finished and back at Cheltenham on better ground he’s still the most likely winner of the QM imo, though was hoping he might have drifted to 5/1. The best race of the day was the novice hurdle and the front three all enhanced their reputations. I was flabbergasted that Townsend ride King Rasko Grey so prominently and with a hold up ride he may well have won. The winner will relish the Cheltenham hill but could get too far back. |
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The Champion Hurdle was throughly run throughout which contributed to the pace collapsing off of the home bend, up to that point they were way clear of the earlier novice hurdle which was run far more steadier throughout and to that end I think you can greatly mark up Talk The Talk who had to make up a lot of ground off of a steady pace against horses that weren't stopping, they really picked up the pace from two out and for him to cut down the front two from that position was impressive. The Supreme is looking to be a really hot race.
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Think JB and TJM hands have been strengthened after this week end, they look like two stayers, JB thoroughly so IMO, GDC looks like father time might be catching up with him and last years winner, well who knows???, think GW and FTF will both run in the Ryanair and Spillane's in the GC.
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You're deluded x20 if you think f2f won't run in a GC after today,probably ricis in ryan air as too free
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I thought Narciso Has was imperious today. He is 6/4 NRNB with Billy and I have had a decent thump. He will be odds on on the day. Nobody in that race will get near to him at Cheltenham. Just a Nicky late bloomer to worry about. As a long suffering fan of Majborough, I was glad he delivered at last. On at 4/1 and if he avoids other horses for the first 3 or 4 fences, he looks a good thing. The interesting thing will be whether these DRF horse are still on top form after hard races in that ground. We shall see. Good luck all
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Another interesting day that muddied the waters even more.
Dr Steinberg won the long distance novice hurdle in almost identical fashion to Final Demand the previous year. Whether he goes for the Turners or Albert Bartlett will be the question now - your guess is a s good as mine. Narciso Has dominated the Triumph Hurdle trial and is a worthy favorite for Cheltenham, but I'm not sure there is much strength in depth to the Irish juveniles this year and so I'm not backing him at 7/4. The Arkle trial showed that a two horse race (effectively) can still be a great watch. My favorite horse Kargese ran well and, just like in her juvenile hurdle days when she travelled all over Sir Gino and Majborough, she looked to have the race in the bag two out but stamina eventually won the day. I have always maintained the Old Course will play right to her strengths so can certainly see her reversing form with Romeo Coolio, if he shows up, though it won't be surprising if she gets run out of it late on by Lulamba.Fact To File bounced back to form and also showed he stayed 3m, after looking a non stayer in two goes last year, though he wasn't up against a peak form GDC like last year. Again the question is which race will he go to, and if he does go for the Gold Cup will he stay the extra distance. With Inothewayurthinkin flopping again JP may well supplement him and I wonder if that were the case could Spillane's Tower be rerouted to the Ryanair? Gaelic Warrior ran well enough and should go for Gold imo, but again could end up win Ryanair. Galopin Des Champs ran ok and I can understand Mullins suggesting he was below his best after the Christmas run so 10/1 e/w isn't the worst price. I just don't fancy Jango Baie or The Jukebox Man who head the market - all very confusing. ![]() ![]() ![]() |
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^ if paul had of kept straight after the 2nd last I think he may have won,Romeo travelled well throughout the race just got a bit behind with the mistake at the 2nd last
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Well a quiet enough period since my last post with just the Constitution Hill fiasco having much effect on the markets.
The way the market was I had begun to lose all hope of my main antepost position, Sortudo, even running in the Turners but I saw Patrick Mullins give him a decent shout on a Paddy Power YouTube video yesterday and he has shortened on here from around 50 to 24. He might only be the third string from the Mullins stable if Mighty Park and King Rasko Grey run. Got my fingers crossed that Danny Mullins can take the ride and not Patrick. |
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Marine Nationale out of the Champion Chase - a massive blow to my ante post portfolio.
Had a very large straight bet at over 6/1 but he was also in about a dozen really good looking accas. ![]() ![]() |
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Mighty Park to go for the longer race?
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Mighty Park and Dr Steinberg not declared for the Turners - Willie clearly feels Sortudo is a certainty.
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JP McManus turning 75 on Tuesday, may have something to do with it.
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Kargese
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Well done Uncle.
Sortudo has just shortened up |
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Sortudo backed off the boards but ran a shocker.
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Well done with Kargese, Unc. She's a fine-looking mare.
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Everything hinges on Gaelic Warrior tomorrow. Even FTF has been taken away from me antepost.
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Hoping the rain comes in sufficient quantity overnight to enable Spillanes Tower to at least get a run, and hopefully win the GC.
Also got fingers crossed for Maestro Conti in the Triumph and Fruit De Mer in the potato race. |
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Well a non runner (antepost so stake lost) and two seconds (backed at 30 and 65 on here) beaten by 50/1 and 20/1 shots rather summed up my meeting.
![]() I started a new job on Monday sop this was the first Festival I haven't been able to watch in real time and just watching replays later on didn't give me the buzz at all. I've been betting less and less over the last couple of years (betting restrictions, draw bias's, domination of Mullins, Coolmore etc) and I think even the thrill of trying to find antepost bets for Cheltenham has waned so I won't be starting a 2027 thread. GL ALL |
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That’s sad to know Uncle as you pick out genuine AP bets, you have a few to look forwards to this year on the flat that I’ll be keeping an eye on such as your filly for the Jubliee.
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Thanks Delashay.
I’ll still post on relevant threads if I think have found something interesting. As I say I haven’t really studied the VT of this years races, I think I only watched the last furlong of the bumper for instance, so other than obvious bets that the market has priced up accordingly, and are therefore of no interest to me, I haven’t formed any strong opinions. Still think Sortudo is high class so whether he got injured (made a small mistake 3 out and soon back-pedalled), or whether it was the ground I’ll be interested if he goes to Punchestown. |
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I'll miss you Uncle, I always enjoy your thoughtful analysis.
I had a frustrating time AP-wise too - I'd got some nice AP positions, but nearly all of them then ran like dogs. But I'll keep at it, because I enjoy the challenge. Maybe fewer of Eliott's going forward though... |
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Cheers Strontium - as I say I’ll still post my thoughts if I see a bet I like - just gets harder and harder to know where horses will be aimed or whether the going will be suitable.
I was all over King Rasko Grey at big prices for the Supreme for example, and even Mullins in his post race interview said he had thought he was a Supreme horse all season. I should have at least covered on him for the Turners but was probably blinded by my bets, and faith, in Sortudo.![]() Elliot’s Cheltenham record is definitely a curious one - even in winning Woodhooh probably underperformed by 10lb. I also wasn’t keen on the changes to the running order - having the Ultima and Plate on the same day seemed a bit daft. |
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The habit of shuffling your horses right up to the 2 day final decs has steadily increased and combined with late injuries and sickness reinforces my view that finding a runner in a named Festival race on January 1 is an odds against exercise. The only ones I was tempted to have were Constitution Hill (before Newscastle and laid off after Southwell) Golden Ace and The Jukebox Man. two out of three ran but both disappointed. My best results were last minute decisions, often in running such as Libberty Hunter and Bass Hunter place only on Wednesday and several near misses laid off such as Final Demand, Regents Stroll and Minella Study.
The continued failure of Sean Bowen and Olly Murphy is a feature of the meeting and demonstrates that they are masters of placing decent but not top class horses. |
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Uncle , your posts are a joy and even given the uncertainty of target ,as you say , one hopefully can still benefit . I played around on here with Wilful and Casheldale Lad for buttons at huge prices and though neither eventually ran in the CH , I had a small winning race . The payback was then Wiful's facile win .I also like last minute decisions (based on my often misguided theories ) , this year , the only one with legs was the hope that Patrick liked and nurtured Apolon De Charmie because of both its one run , but more importantly because he knew he would never get the ride on Proactiv .(apologies for AT ).
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It’s not the same watching on replays for sure, I watched very little this season of the jumps and I felt better off for it! Most Saturdays have poor cards and you see the same again and again.
As I’m not a big fan of it I just stick to the races that I know, the class events, the handicaps are ok if you have info but many of these races offer little value to the punter. Paying only 3 places for such big fields is terrible, even the Gold Cup only had 3 places! One firm went 4 and they were all short at the top of the market bunched together, the others out of them bad ew prices. Really the books squeezed every last drop out of it. World Hurdle continues to be a dire race so I’ll be scratching that from my ‘class races bracket’ as im happy wirh a treble anyway! not greedy me! Nice one Paul!! Watch out they’ll be after you! ![]() I kicked myself for not seeing that after as it’s a race where a price can win and as you said he couldn’t ride the others so his dad put him on one that could! |
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Yes Uncle, I agree about the running order. Tuesday felt flat to me, and I'm not sure why. It's almost like the three high-quality races got swamped by the four mass-field handicaps. Running the Winter so early on the card also felt odd.
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Missing you already, Unc.
Good luck in the new job. |