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Very interesting uncle, not entirely in agreement but so what ? hope you are healthy and well.
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Nice work Uncle, a fitting postscript to the last and opening salvo to the next. At a quick glance the first price that I took a second look at and of course with lots and lots of things having to fall the right way was Sir Gino at 33/1 for the CH.
The impression he made still stands with his non participation this week, on trials day he and Lossiemouth were equally impressive, you have to take anything that Henderson says with a pinch, well no, a bucket of salt but I heard him say something along the lines of Sir Gino still having a lot of hurdling ahead of him, I don't know, the 33.s just suggests that he's guaranteed to go chasing and I don't know if that is decided yet, the disparity between him and Lossies price is just so big IMO. I've had a speculative £20 at 33/1, first bet for next season. ![]() |
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No problem with people disagreeing with me Irishone, I do get it wrong occasionally.
![]() Health is currently good thanks for asking. ![]() Good luck with your Sir Gino bet duffy - will all hinge on whether Constitution Hill comes back as good as ever. I did say on the 2024 thread that Sir Gino looked a great Arkle prospect for next year. |
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Nice write up uncle.
Looking forward to your early antepost thoughts again. As Irishone said, hope you are healthy and well. |
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As we saw this year backing antepost in the novice races is a minefield.
I thought Romeo Coolio might be the one to take from the bumper but a best price 14/1 for the Gallagher is pathetic. I’ll also keep an eye on The Yellow Clay who is at least 50/1 for the Supreme. |
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Great write up as always Uncle, thank you. I'm struggling to see an antepost bet at this stage, mostly for the reasons you set out. However, I haven't had a winner from a bet I placed before Christmas in the last two years, so maybe that's no bad thing (despite plenty of shorteners).
One place I would disagree with you (though only a little) is Ballyburn. While the Gallaghers itself looks weak, his DRF formline stacks up extremely well - there, he easily beat the Supreme winner Slade Steel, who was well clear of the third (County Hurdle winner in fourth). Earlier in the season, Slade Steel beat the Albert Bartlett winner and the Martin Pipe winner. So it's possible to take a very favourable view of Ballyburn. The problem re an antepost bet is that I imagine both he and Slade Steel will go novice chasing, and SS will run in the novice chase that B doesn't.... |
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Yeah, we're still guessing a fortnight before the festival let alone with 52 weeks to go.
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The best antepost is the novice winners to the full graded races,at least some form to assess
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Thanks Uncle. I like this thread each year.
Also good to hear that you're keeping well at the moment. |
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does anyone have the access to this article and care to share?
https://www.racingpost.com/horse-racing-tips/members-club-tips/the-33-1-may-not-last-long-our-experts-find-the-early-value-after-tipping-16-1-ballyburn-and-12-1-teahupoo-last-year-aNoNH6v4Ntts/ Thanks |
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Well done Uncle. Very good write up again. Next year could be a stellar year if horses go where they are expected.
Just back from another 4 days in Cheltenham. This year was by far the best experience I’ve ever had going as we tweaked getting mini buses and taxis to the course…..thank god ![]() I really strongly recommend attending if your circumstances allow you to. I’ve seen crazy prices in the media and I’m sure the figures are correct. We do it 5* for a fraction if you know what your doing and how to do it. We stay in a house 15mins from Cheltenham and arrange taxi to Railway Station to catch direct bus for £6 return. We start queuing at 10am and get table in the members area which include best seats opposite winning line. We then get bus back to Railway station and get collected by taxi 6.45 back to house or pub/restaurant. I do 4 days for just over £1,100 and we had 8 guys do 2 days each for £600. No carparks, no walking, easy transportation. Drink and food is little high but that depends on how much you want. PM me if anyone wants more information as I think we have it cracked after 10 years ![]() |
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Well done.
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I've backed Majborough for the RSA. Only bet so far.
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So your username is a smokescreen then.
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Ha ha
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Given what Gerri did in the Bowl and the lack-lustre performance of Shishkin I think 3/1 for Galopin Des Champ could be value personified - show of no-show at Punchestown - assuming he shows up next March here.
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Well Aintree went pretty much according to script with most of the Grade 1's being won by the favourites and the Cheltenham form holding up exceptionally well.
Perhaps the most impressive individual winner was Brighterdaysahead who beat the boys and clearly relished the step back up to 2 1/2m. An obvious contender for the Mares Hurdle (5/1 best price) if she stays over the smaller obstacles but she may go chasing. Punchestown starts tomorrow and the going is currently good to yielding but there is a fair bit of rain forecast on Tuesday morning and then showers later in the week. There is a cracking race for the 2m Novice hurdle with the first four from the Supreme all engaged. Mystical Power and Firefox have run in the interim at Aintree where the Cheltenham form was confirmed, though only narrowly. While Firefox has been a little disappointing since beating the mighty Ballyburn he does seem to prefer going right handed and at 7/1 or bigger he might be worth a small bet to reverse the placings with Slade Steel (will need the rain to come) and Mystical Power (who won't want too much rain). The Champion Chase looks a damp squib but the 3m Novice Chase sees Montys Pass take on Spillanes Tower which should be informative, for the future paths of those horses and as a barometer to the form of Fact To File. On Wednesday the Gold Cup should see Galloping Des Champs take on Fastorslow again and I will not be surprised if we get the same result as last year. Sadly Shishkin won't be there after the dreadful news yesterday. ![]() |
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I'm interested to see how Ballyburn gets on later in the week - the Gallaghers is one race where the Cheltenham form was made to look poor at Aintree, albeit horses that BB beat easily.
Meanwhile, the Grade 1 3 mile novice chase looks a poor race, as did the equivalent at Aintree - that division could be exceptionally weak this year. I re-watched the Brown Advisory the other day, and Fact to File was not impressive. Quotes of 4/1 for the Gold Cup are highway robbery - there are at least three, maybe four, McManus owned horses that I would prefer at this stage. The 2025 Gold Cup is reminding me a little of Best Mate's third - an aging champion still good enough to beat a bunch of uninspiring challengers. |
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Well an interesting day at Punchestown with the Supreme form being franked, yet turned around at the same time.
For a horse who supposedly wants further Slade Steel travelled like a dream and was seemingly outstayed - he may also be better going left handed. Firefox ran much better going right handed and while he has the scope to make a lovely chaser I couldn't be backing him for Cheltenham. In fact I'd say Slade Steel at 12/1 may be a better Arkle bet. Mystical Power is a strange one - clearly loves Punchestown and has a terrific finishing burst but he also races a bit lazily and jumps sketchily, he won't get away with that in a Champion against better horses. The Champion Chase threw up a thrilling finish but those horses aren't fit to be mentioned in the same breath as Sprinter Sacre, Moscow Flyer etc. The 3m Novice Chase delivered the expected close contest between Spillanes Tower and Montys Star with the former always going the better and winning fairly decisively. Montys Star ran a perfectly good race in second and I don't see it as a negative to the form of the RSA/Brown Advisory. having said that the third horse that day Giovinco was booked for second at best when sadly falling fatally at Aintree behind Inothewayyurthinkin so Fact To File does seem a bit hyped when you compare the Gold Cup prices. The Bumper looks a strong renewal and I will look to take on Jasmin De Veux on better ground - he has an incredibly round action and is also very small so lacks the scope of some of these. I'll throw some small change on The Yellow Clay at 25/1 and You Oughta Know at 40/1. |
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As expected Fastorslow won at Punchestown again, though GDC ran another fine race so come Cheltenham he'll be fancied to reverse the form again. He's clearly not as happy at Punchestown and fails to get into a good jumping rhythm. Fastorslow won very well and at no point did he look like getting beat.
He clearly prefers going right handed and I just hope they aim at the King George though I doubt they will travel until Cheltenham Would also be good if Mullins forgot about running GDC in the John Durkan again and instead came over for the Betfair Chase - again not going to happen. ![]() Also good to see my bumper analysis work out. - the favourite was the first beat. Was very pleased with the run of The Yellow Clay and having mentioned him up thread as my early fancy for the Supreme I've backed him at 55 on here (still some available). I expect Gordon Elliott is already plotting a route to the Royal Bond at Fairyhouse. ![]() Nothing much of interest today - Gaelic Warrior and Teauphoo should win the Grade 1's and the rest of the card looks pretty poor. The bumper has a few nice prospects in it and Samyr in particular was very eye-catching on debut. |
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A comfortable win for Teahupoo despite the ground being faster than he would like. Will only be 8 next year so should be improving, so unless the French horse Theleme is something special, and actually turns up, then he looks nailed on to win another Stayers (a good race for repeat winners) and the 3/1 looks way too big so have played accordingly to max stakes.
Gaelic Warrior was disappointing though the winner is a cracking little horse. Though where this leaves the 2025 Champion Chase is anyones guess. After Aintree it looked for all the world that Jonbon would be stepping up in trip, maybe even targeting a King George (especially with the sad death of Shiskin) but after winning at Sandown and Gaelic Warrior fluffing his lines he is now favourite. Il Etait Temps doesn't seem quick enough for 2m on the Old Course. Captain Guinness is 30 on here which seems generous - will be 10 next year which is a bit off-putting but at least you know this is his aim. |
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Well the last two days of Punchestown were the usual Mullins / Townshend fest though neither Stateman or Ballyburn were desperately impressive. Lossiemouth won easily but didn’t have to be near her best.
Kargese got a deserved win the juvenile hurdle and like Il Etait Temps is a splendid animal. If you read my 2024 thread you’ll know I put up Chapeau Du Soleil as an interesting one - although not up to winning, or even running, in the Albert Bartlett at Cheltenham I’m glad to say I didn’t desert him dropped into his first handicap, ![]() |
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Do you think Ballyburn will go novice chasing now? Did not look a champion hurdle type this week. I can see Il Etait Temps going to the Ryanair, but he seems to not like Cheltenham particularly. Hopefully that means he'll continue to be overpriced when he runs elsewhere.
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I expect he will go chasing.
Very similar novice credentials to Impaire Et Passé who was also unimpressive at Punchestown after looking a machine at Cheltenham. They tried to make him a Champion hurdler and that didn’t work out. |
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Renewed memberships and bought seats all 4 days of Festival. Might be June but getting excited
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I don't think the Irish support will be up next year
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Well the jumps season is well and truly underway and there have been a few significant performances on both sides of the Irish Sea.
Inthepocket returned from nearly a year off to win impressively - now only 10/1 for the Arkle though he seemed to lack a bit of speed when 4th in the Supreme. Having said that the Arkle can be won by horses with plenty of stamina. Obviously there is no intermediate novice chase next year so at least you know the Arkle is the target. Firefox made a very pleasing chase debut at Down Royal and is 6/1 second fav for the Arkle which is very short and I do worry he is better going right handed. I’m still waiting to see if Sir Gino goes chasing as he was my long range pick for the race. The Yellow Clay and Romeo Coolio won their novice hurdles easily at Down Royal and the latter was the more impressive for all he was long odds on. He appears to be Elliot’s Royal Bond horse. The Yellow Clay race was over 2m6f but I feel he’ll be better dropped in trip. Brighterdaysahead also won at Down Royal with connections deciding to stay over hurdles this season. She wasn’t that impressive and Elliot’s comments about possibly aiming for the Champion Hurdle instead of the Mares Hurdle seemed wildly optimistic. |
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Uncle, Sir Geno isn’t going chasing from my conversation with Nicky. He really likes the way Lossiemouth was campaigned last year as a 4 year old. He suggested he won’t be out till Jan or Feb over hurdles. I suppose how CH goes will influence his targets after that. Can see him missing Cheltenham and running Aintree or Punchestown.
I thought Brightdaysahead ran very well against a horse whose performances last year against Ballyburn and co were top class. She was wrong at the weights and apart from last two flights when she jumped bit low she was well on top. Agree Champion is ridiculous but will be hard to beat over an extra 1/2 mile against her own sex. Cheltenham is the only question mark and if she likes it there. |
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Sir Geno now going chasing
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That's my CH bet up the spout then, should have known really as soon as I heard Henderson state that the horse had plenty of hurdling left ahead of him.
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Plenty of good action over the last two weeks which peaks today with the John Durkan at Punchestown.
Starting with the novice hurdlers, Yellow Clay won again and was made favourite for the Albert Bartlett. No chance of staying 3m and while he'll probably end up in the intermediate race I am convinced his race at Cheltenham should be the Supreme. At this stage it appears that Romeo Coolio is the yards Supreme horse but don't forget Samcro was winning over 2m before he was then stepped up the 2m,5f race at Cheltenham. Likewise this time last year Firefox was favourite for the Ballymore (or whatever it's name is now) but then flopped in the Lawlors of Naas (Yellow Clays next target) and then ran in the Supreme. Potters Charm won well at Cheltenham but beat trees - why on earth Dan Skelton stepped his horse up in trip I'll never know. As we see every year the British novices look good but then get annihilated by the Irish. One race that might be worth a look is the novice hurdle that was run at Punchestown on Saturday won by Butch Cassidy - the front three pulled 15l clear and could all be up to graded class. Ballyburn sauntered round to win his novice chase but 2/1 for the Arkle seems an overreaction. The Champion Hurdle picture gets ever murkier. Constitution Hill having another setback which throws Sir Gino's future up in the air. Lossiemouth got a stone bruise and so it was left to Brighterdaysahead to get the better of State Man in the Morgiana but I still can't have her as a Champion Hurdler. Elliot did say afterwards that the Mares looks hers for the taking and Michael O'Leary does tend to aim at the race he is most likely to win. The November meeting at Cheltenham wasn't very thrilling. Jonbon won but was hardly impressive and I just want to oppose him in the QM. Found A Fifty was also unimpressive in the Fortria at Naas where reigning Champion Captain Guiness pulled up. East India Dock was impressive in the Triumph Hurdle trial but it's very early days. L'Eau Du Sud was another impressive winner in the Arkle Trial but hard to think the Irish won't have several better, let alone Sir Gino if he goes chasing. One other race worth mentioning is the 2m1f novice chase at Naas last Saturday. Has a good history and it looked a deep competitive event for this time of year. Victory went to Down Memory Lane who I mentioned as a lovely prospect on last years thread. With the 2m5f Novice Chase scrapped I'm not sure there is much for him at Cheltenham. The Betfair Chase was a thriller with course and heavy ground specialist Royale Pagaille outstayed Grey Dawning. The latter looked the best horse until fluffing the last but still has a long way to go to be competitive with the best of the Irish. |
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The home of jumping wasn't very thrilling?
My thoughts b4 it started looking at the entries,I was at Navan both days and thought racing was far superior was with trainer's son of our new horse so 8 of us didn't pay a penny. Great race at punchestown today fastorslow looks likely winner with Willie's likely coming on for the run with the timing more suitable with future targets in mind. |
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Sir Gino back in the Champion Hurdle picture again and confirmed for the FF next week thanks in no small part to Constitution Hill on the missing list and the owners State Man getting turned over.
If he's overly impressive in the FF I would imagine that it will be hard to once again wriggle out of a hurdling campaign regardless of what happens to Constitution Hill. |
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Well the John Durkan lived up to the pre race hype with a fantastic finish.
The front four all come out of the race with credit though Fastorslow was perhaps a bit disappointing given his previous record at the track and how well backed he was. Fact To File has plenty of boot and whether he will be as effective at the Gold Cup trip is the million dollar question. Spillanes Tower ran way better than the market indicated. All his form is going right handed so it will be interesting to see how he gets on if he goes to Leopardstown at Christmas. It would be great if the first two and Fastorslow went for the King George which looks the ideal race for all of them in term of track, distance and timing, but for some reason the race just does not have the draw that it did back in Dessie and Kautos day. It looks like Corbetts Cross will be JP’s runner instead. Whether it’s prize money or something else I don’t know but it just isn’t attracting the best horses and needs sorting by the BHA - maybe a big bonus if you go on to win at Cheltenham? |
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Talking of races that are a shadow of their former selves what was the Hennessy Cognac Gold Cup is at Newbury on Saturday and the entries are deeply uninspiring.
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Another interesting weekend with several Cheltenham favourites in a action.
Sir Gino won the Fighting Firth in what turned out to be a penalty kick with Mystical Power running no race. Some people got all excited about the performance straight afterwards but he basically just did what he was entitled to dobeating a load of handicappers. He briefly became favourite but 24 hours later Lossiemouth put in a performance that was far more compelling in the Hattons Grace at Fairyhouse. Teauphoo lost little in defeat. It would be great if Constitution Hill could look as good as ever at Christmas then we would have a fantastic match up - but that's probably a pipe dream. The Grade 1 novice races at Fairyhouse threw up some surprises though Jack Kennedy was unable to ride the two favourites after sadly breaking his leg again - hopefully he gets back in time for Dublin Festival/Cheltenham. I doubt there were any Cheltenham Grade 1 winners in a action in either race. I thought the the rides on both Firefox and Romeo Coolio were very disappointing - both should have been ridden more aggressively instead of being held up imo. Still don't like Firefox for the Arkle and Romeo Coolio should definitely be stepped up in trip though doubt he's good enough to win a Turners (aka Ballymore). I'm still convinced The Yellow Clay is Elliots best two miler and had some more on at 130 for the Supreme. ![]() ![]() ![]() Speaking of Elliot Koktail Brut was impressive in the closing bumper and is one for the notebook. The two day meeting at Newbury was pretty average though some people got excited by Regents Stroll in the opening novice hurdle but I couldn't back him with counterfeit for Cheltenham. |
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Interesting race on Saturday at Sandown with Henry VIII entries including L’Eau du Sud, Down Memory Lane joined by Rubaud. Didn’t know that was going chasing to be honest. Personally I think Skeltons horse has improved over a stone since going Chasing and 6/5 early price is fairly generous. I’m really anti Ballyburn’s Arkle chance and if he goes up to 3 miles (hasn’t done Fact or File any harm) then it’s a pretty open field. L’Eau has been as good as anything so far and maybe just been waiting to shine over bigger obstacles? Any thoughts Uncle or anyone else?
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L’eau Du Sud certainly looks a nice prospect but odds on in a novice chase at Sandown wouldn’t be my kind of bet.
Whether he’s quite Arkle material I’m not sure. I the pocket has been the most impressive to my eyes and I look forward to seeing his next start - though they have scrubbed the race at Leopardstowns Christmas meeting so not sure where he’ll go - has to go left handed. I think for sure Ballyburn would have gone for the old Turners so maybe he’ll go for the Browns over 3m like Fact To File did. |
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6/5 not odds on obviously.
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