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isleham
08 Mar 23 09:07
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Rather than depend on the Met Office or God forbid the BBC can people close to the Course post what's happening weather-wise there on an ongoing basis till Tuesday...I'm sure many would be appreciative
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Report jimnast March 8, 2023 10:12 AM GMT
Yes it would be very helpful

Hopefully Paris pike is around
Report The Sawyer March 8, 2023 2:02 PM GMT
One thing it is chaps is it's cold. In addition we have had some light rain/sleet this morning.

Because of the air temperature, this "should" prevent the clerk from watering.

I live around 5 miles (westerly) from the course
Report FOYLESWAR March 8, 2023 2:43 PM GMT
thanks sawyer any daily  updates appreciated and good luck !
Report brandyontherocks March 8, 2023 8:25 PM GMT
Go onto the bha website.
Goings, weather and watering all on there.
Report brandyontherocks March 8, 2023 8:25 PM GMT
Good To Soft (Good In Places)

Going Stick 6.3 on Tue 15:00pm

Weather
No snow overnight. 1mm of sleet so far today. An unsettled forecast for the week ahead with wintery showers. Spells of rain/sleet forecast until the weekend. Temperatures forecast to rise over the weekend and a drier outlook for Festival week.


Watering:No further watering planned unless necessary following an unsettled week.
Report The Sawyer March 9, 2023 12:27 PM GMT
More sleet this morning followed by rain - some fairly heavy bits too.

Stopped around 10 and definitely not as cold as yesterday.
Report strontium March 9, 2023 12:38 PM GMT
Extensive comments from the CoC on the RP site (which can be boiled down to "we don't know").
Report FOYLESWAR March 9, 2023 1:17 PM GMT
thanks sawyer!
Report The Sawyer March 9, 2023 6:18 PM GMT
Pi55ed with rain for most of the afternoon Foyles but stopped now
Report layingisthewayforward March 9, 2023 10:09 PM GMT
Gonna be cold next week Cry
Report brandyontherocks March 10, 2023 8:11 AM GMT
Likely to start on soft ground and according to forecast be softer on Thursday, Friday.

Should make the Gold Cup a real test.
Report brandyontherocks March 10, 2023 8:16 AM GMT
12mm of rain in the last 24hrs. Covering of snow (@07:30). Snow flurries should clear by 10:00 today and then remain mainly dry. Overnight frost followed by a dry day tomorrow until some spells of rain/sleet in the evening. Dry during the day on Sunday with a band of rain moving in during the evening and through the night into Monday morning (5-8mm). An unsettled outlook for Festival week with occasional showers.
Report The Sawyer March 10, 2023 1:54 PM GMT
Again quite heavy rain/sleet and a bit of real snow early doors - cold and sunny now

There is snow on them there hills
Report impossible123 March 10, 2023 6:20 PM GMT
Given the forecast for the entire Festival I think the going will be soft to begin with and probably get progressively softer throughout. The Irish horses - not that they need further assistance given their ability - will be aided further, I think.
Report impossible123 March 10, 2023 6:22 PM GMT
'The Sawyer', thanks for the regular update. Keep them coming. Will it be abandoned, you think?
Report geoff m March 10, 2023 6:48 PM GMT
impossible12310 Mar 23 18:20Joined: 07 Sep 15 | Topic/replies: 22,829 | Blogger: impossible123's blog
Given the forecast for the entire Festival I think the going will be soft to begin with and probably get progressively softer throughout. The Irish horses - not that they need further assistance given their ability - will be aided further, I think.


Not necessarily so you need some serious rain thro the meet for that to be the case. Last couple of races on Wednesday last year ran on heavy but less than 48 hours later you have the triumph on gd to soft
Report Bentring March 10, 2023 9:15 PM GMT
Why would it help Irish horses IMPOSSIBLE the last few years Heavy has been found rarely on Irish courses,but ur right they have plenty abilityCool
Report The Sawyer March 11, 2023 8:05 AM GMT
Won't be abandoned impossible - glorious here this morning and temperatures set to rise.

what has surprised me is that the surface water has mostly evaporated although it didn't feel that warm walking Mutley this morning.
Report FOYLESWAR March 11, 2023 8:39 AM GMT
thanks for the updates sawyer!
Report asparagus March 11, 2023 10:02 AM GMT
The usual media lack of criticism for a clerk who has messed up by overwatering two years in a row.
Report wondersobright March 11, 2023 2:39 PM GMT
going to be a soft ground cheltenham for 6 consecutive years

no thanks
Report brandyontherocks March 11, 2023 3:29 PM GMT
How can you have a pop at the clerk of the course this year?
Report wondersobright March 11, 2023 3:41 PM GMT
45mm watering in february...absolutely ridiculous
Report brandyontherocks March 11, 2023 5:00 PM GMT
He hadn't rained all year. What should he have done? Left it as it was?
Report The Sawyer March 11, 2023 6:19 PM GMT
I agree brandy

The temperatures for the next few days are set to rise with Tuesday and Wednesday being "normal" March numbers. If there is little or no rain it wouldn't surprise me if he watered the new course ahead of the final two days.

The course drains overly well and with a bit of warm air - feck me it could be at worst good-soft.

Back to today it has rained in the last couple of hours but not a significant amount, but it ain't shirt sleeve weather
Report wondersobright March 11, 2023 6:37 PM GMT

Mar 11, 2023 -- 5:00PM, brandyontherocks wrote:


He hadn't rained all year. What should he have done? Left it as it was?


they're the only choices are they 0 or 45mm? grow up ffs

Report irishone March 11, 2023 8:09 PM GMT
Only certain irish horses will be aided
Gentlenan de mee, chemicak energy and marine national wont
Report irishone March 11, 2023 8:25 PM GMT
Claisse was class. His biggest problems were the media , the public and mostly the BHA . If the bha wanted good and there was a deluge the night before he would have good in the going description by lunchtime.He had all the drains relaid in the cross country and fences moved nearer hedges and trees, what was a bog six months of the year round suddenly came up much dryer. He had a geyser there who knew where to put the going stick for the right reasons. What he organised a couple of years back for the Irish contigent during Covid was unbelievable. He took ground maintenance to a new level and wanted parts of the course churned up and relaid because of reverse cambers, he told the bha time and time again until he got the golden handshake. Fair play to him, the new man has got a lot to live up to.
Report irishone March 11, 2023 8:28 PM GMT
Bentring ...if its heavy at galway they need flippers on the hooves
Report Bentring March 11, 2023 9:00 PM GMT
Sure b4 they race there if they pointed in Maralin they would a needed a tractor to get them home
Report strontium March 12, 2023 12:02 PM GMT
Plenty of good to soft in the latest going report, but great uncertainty about how much more rain will fall.
Report The Sawyer March 12, 2023 1:40 PM GMT
Been a dry day and definitely milder than it has been. Breezier than expected but not as warm as I had thought it would be given the forecast.
Report unclepuncle March 12, 2023 1:41 PM GMT
Loads of rain tonight and tomorrow and then snow Tuesday morning and very cold.
Can see it being soft / heavy in places or the reverse.
Report jimnast March 12, 2023 4:52 PM GMT
Uncle

Not been heavy on the opening day this century,I backed heavy at 40/1 foot and mouth year if they had of raced it would have been heavyCry
Report brandyontherocks March 12, 2023 6:23 PM GMT
Uncle, where ate you seeing snow? Temperatures are not dipping below 4°
Report unclepuncle March 12, 2023 6:45 PM GMT
jimnast 12 Mar 23 16:52 Joined: 03 Jan 01 | Topic/replies: 12,300 | Blogger: jimnast's blog
Uncle

Not been heavy on the opening day this century.


It was heavy at the start of the meeting in 2018.
Report jimnast March 12, 2023 9:55 PM GMT
Soft ground 2018 opening day uncle
Report unclepuncle March 12, 2023 10:21 PM GMT
https://www.racingpost.com/results/11/cheltenham/2018-03-13/689702

It was 100% definitely heavy - I know because I won plenty,Grin

https://community.betfair.com/cheltenham2011/go/thread/view/113609/30991903/festival-weather-watch?pg=1
Report ronnie rails March 12, 2023 10:21 PM GMT
Jimnast

can you remember about 8 years ago the Sunday meeting at the PaddyPower  meeting what horrible conditions,they cancelled the meeting before the last.

Enjoy Tuesday.

Ronnie.
Report irishone March 12, 2023 10:48 PM GMT
soft heavy in places .....was the official description

but they woukd never start heavy !
Report irishone March 12, 2023 10:49 PM GMT
that was a classic year , davy had a treble , galway winners coming in all over the place, thats how you know uncle is right.
Report irishone March 12, 2023 10:52 PM GMT
Cheltenham 13th Mar 2018
Going - Soft (Heavy in places)

a great example of knowing where to put the going stick.....
Report unclepuncle March 12, 2023 11:11 PM GMT
It was 100% definitely officially 'Heavy, soft in places' (so heavy was the winner for betting purposes).

https://www.express.co.uk/sport/horseracing/931514/Cheltenham-2018-going-Day-two-conditions-Ladies-Day-ground-change

https://www.theguardian.com/sport/live/2018/mar/13/cheltenham-festival-2018-champion-hurdle-day-live?page=with:block-5aa7d960e4b0ccc2e5bc5bea&filterKeyEvents=false

For some reason the Sporting Life result page for the 2018 Supreme says Soft, heavy in places and even Timeform show it as just soft - both are incorrect.
Report unclepuncle March 12, 2023 11:13 PM GMT
Sportinglife result page for Supreme with correct going description here:

https://www.sportinglife.com/racing/results/2018-03-13/cheltenham/460684/sky-bet-supreme-novices-hurdle-grade-1
Report irishone March 12, 2023 11:20 PM GMT
I know for a fact it was heavy mate
Report jimnast March 13, 2023 6:24 AM GMT
It was timeform I was going off uncle/irishone
Report Fistfulofdollars March 13, 2023 9:21 AM GMT
Hi I'm 20 mins walk from the course and confirm there was quite a drop of rain overnight. Not too hard but sustained. I see the official racecourse page is showing soft all round on the old course and that feels about right. Not much rain this year though so I suspect unless more rain it should drain away with a low water table. Some unsettled weather on Wednesday but not sure if it'll be too heavy. Tomorrow will almost certainly be soft though.
Report Bentring March 13, 2023 10:49 AM GMT
^^^Thanks for that
Report FOYLESWAR March 13, 2023 11:11 AM GMT
good man fistfull !
Report brandyontherocks March 13, 2023 4:57 PM GMT
Ground described as genuine soft winter ground and more rain falling this afternoon
Report irishone March 14, 2023 7:13 AM GMT
...its heavy
Report irishone March 14, 2023 7:17 AM GMT
....so given that its heavy but the bha will never admit it

Theres going to be a few last minute non runners

Time to take the price if you fancy any of these ....

Facile vega
Inthe pocket
El fabiola
Hollow games
Effernock fizz
Constipation pill
Jason the militant
Not so sleepy
Brandy love
Echoes in the rain
Love envoi
Queens brook
Perseus way
Metamorpheus
Sundial
Coolavilla
Tenzing
Bellextrixa

All of whom have heavy wins
Report brandyontherocks March 14, 2023 7:32 AM GMT
Is that list horses who have performed at their very best on heavy ground or just won on heavy ground beating maybe vastly inferior opposition?
Report irishone March 14, 2023 7:40 AM GMT
Won on heavy only mate, except the ultima, loads of them on there.
I was at cheltenham once when it peed down all day , venetia had a double and another time shishkin fecked it and nichols bottled it with bravemansgame.
You make a very good point never the less.
Report strontium March 14, 2023 9:56 AM GMT
You mean "Nicholls did what he'd planned to do all along and skip Cheltenham with the horse, despite heavy pressure from his owners to run it". HTH.
Report FOYLESWAR March 14, 2023 8:18 PM GMT
any weather updates ?
Report irishone March 14, 2023 10:14 PM GMT
Supposed to rain tonight
Report The Sawyer March 15, 2023 7:06 AM GMT
Lets hope they put frost covers down!

No rain irish but a lovely clear morning with frost - temperatures set to rise to zero degrees by 8 o'clock!!!!

Might need a bit more than that
Report irishone March 15, 2023 7:51 AM GMT
strontium • March 14, 2023 9:56 AM GMT
You mean "Nicholls did what he'd planned to do all along and skip Cheltenham with the horse, despite heavy pressure from his owners to run it". HTH.

No I mean when he bottled it

Why stick yer boots in the car if you aint going to play ?
Report strontium March 15, 2023 9:33 AM GMT
Looking like Thursday could be pretty soggy.
Report eric_morris March 15, 2023 3:41 PM GMT
Forget horses who don’t like soft. All about the weather Cheltenham.
Report irishone March 15, 2023 8:36 PM GMT
spot on
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