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By:
impossible123
When: 05 Feb 23 09:58
Mr Mullins - the trainer - was miffed about the ride of Lossiemouth by Townend. I think that was justified. Why Mr Townend?
By:
irishone
When: 05 Feb 23 10:16
exceptional ride by danny
points to lossiemouth being ground dependent
around the inside , taking fresh ground as much as possible
townend knew danny would lead and got done on the bend
By:
irishone
When: 05 Feb 23 10:16
exceptional ride by danny
points to lossiemouth being ground dependent
around the inside , taking fresh ground as much as possible
townend knew danny would lead and got done on the bend
By:
duffy
When: 05 Feb 23 13:33
She jumped very badly, one particularly led to her losing her place, in the end Townend used her up trying to get to the winner before flattening out. It supports the concern that a stiff test on the new course won't suit her, must be a nightmare for Mullins sometimes, blood destiny and the winner yesterday look like stamina types to me and lossiemouth wanting a relative speed test. IMO.
By:
impossible123
When: 05 Feb 23 14:15
Lossiemouth was conceding 3lbs to the Gala and beating her 7l prior to yesterday. However, yesterday at level weight the position was reversed by 3l after a hampered run. Thus, is it fair to conclude Lossiemouth is about 7l better than Gala, all things being equal?
By:
irishone
When: 05 Feb 23 15:42
TOWNEND has held his hands up
fair play to him


Duffy go and look at the race again, you talk utter nonsense
lossiemouth got over the third last easily and made no mistake
his stable mate came across him and cut him off at the fence then at the bend

even the commentator said he was impeded by one of willies
By:
duffy
When: 05 Feb 23 15:55
she was slow into it and landed flat footed he briefly tried to ride her away from it before the owners other horse fell back into her and she was taken back....very clear.
By:
irishone
When: 05 Feb 23 16:10
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By:
irishone
When: 05 Feb 23 16:12
you talk cr4pp mate

you couldnt even see if she slowed up or landed on all fours


because there was another horse in the way AS THIS PICTURE SHOWS
By:
irishone
When: 05 Feb 23 16:14
the other horse was going left
and cut her off


as for jumping badly  .....where ?

4th last she got in a bit close , no problem
others she pinged
By:
irishone
When: 05 Feb 23 16:22
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By:
irishone
When: 05 Feb 23 16:26
thats the critical point after the third last where townend realises he aint gonna have enough room at the bend

you can see he pulls lossiemouth to the right , there's three in front of him all making for the rail at the same time

nothing to do with Lossiemouths jumping
By:
brandyontherocks
When: 05 Feb 23 16:26
Looked like the stablemate was the cause of the issue to me.

Well the three Tuesday bankers (Facile Vega, Jonbon  & Constitution Hill) look like they all have a race on their hands now!
By:
irishone
When: 05 Feb 23 16:38
agree
By:
duffy
When: 05 Feb 23 16:46
I'll concede that I overdid it by saying she jumped "very badly", but, she wasn't good into that hurdle, she wasn't great at the 4th last and she wasn't great at the 2nd last either,generally I don't think her technique is the best, she seems to be a bit big at them,

Anyway the main thrust I've had against her throughout is that she had yet to answer the stamina question and that she had been hammered in the market as if she was bombproof, the stamina question in a likely stronger run Triumph still stands, perhaps even more so now.
By:
irishone
When: 05 Feb 23 17:10
Theres no way she jumped badly , she took a bump off the bend as well

After that run i would agree there maybe a stamina issue
she was obviously ridden to get around
he was saving ground on her up the inside before the 3rd last
dont think she would get 2m.1f with the hill on a friday now
the other worry was the treatment she got
juvenile mares dont like the stick
she took a couple of tears there after the last
And didnt seem to respond
yet all the slapping and punching before the last
was getting a reaction
not good
By:
penzance
When: 05 Feb 23 17:23
Constitution Hill,they won't get near him.
By:
Hibore
When: 08 Feb 23 08:12
Back from Dublin yesterday. Had a great weekend, lots of top people and really enjoyed the racing. Had a few winners so covered most of the expenses.
However, there were some major issues with the racecourse facilities. We were in owners and trainers on Saturday and the queues for drinks were nearly out the door. There were 3 bar staff trying to serve 200 people and the wait (if you could be bothered was well over hour to get served). This is the worst organised OT I’ve been in and was very disappointing for everyone with a runner at this Premier meeting. We went outside and found similar problems but you you could get a drink if you queued 10-15 mins in the tent. The second issue was the toilets. If you wanted the loo you had a 20-25 min wait to get in. We worked out if you started getting in line during a race and watched the final mile on your phone you could cut the wait to 10 mins.
To be honest it was a lot worse than Gold Cup day at Cheltenham. Let’s hope Leopardstown take on board the comments from race goers and employ more staff or restrict numbers….however that is never going to happen.

Sunday as much better as we were in the pavilion restaurant. I must admit that was fantastic and miles better than what Cheltenham offers in regards food quality, viewing and cost. There were about 800 people in there both days and had the best experience of the weekend.

All in all it was a great trip and we have already agreed we will go again next year. As long as tne pavillion is available both days.
By:
jimnast
When: 08 Feb 23 10:29
Hibore

Everyone I spoke to over the weekend says just like you how they enjoyed it and what value for money all round it is ,the transport provided free of charge also excellent.

However the toilet situation and the ability to get food or drink was also a common topic,a huge increase in attendance is what the racecourse will blame however from the opening day of the first drf the toilets have been a problem ok not as bad as this year but still not good,it was clear on Friday in Dublin that there were lots of first time visitors to the fixture from the uk it would be a shame if two relatively simple problems would put some of returning to such a quality fixture.


Glad you enjoyed it
By:
jimnast
When: 08 Feb 23 10:59
Letter in racing post today from a Jerry wright

He must have gone to a different racecourse
By:
Hibore
When: 08 Feb 23 11:48
Just read it. I can assure you the bars were out of control on Saturday…I gave up in OT and went to the marquee outside and waited 40 mins to get served. Then took pints back to OT.

The toilets are by far the biggest problem. Much worse than Cheltenham or any racecourse I’ve ever been to. Hopefully they will bring in reinforcements for next year.

Apart from that it was a great weekend.
By:
irishone
When: 08 Feb 23 21:13
one of the things that stick out for me now
is that Willie wasnt joking about the kickboards
i dont know if there is an Irish course with white kickboards
cheltenham has had them since October last year at least
all the Irish courses still have the orange kickboards at their fences
irish horses will not be used to this change at Cheltenham
the Authorities in the U K have obviously done this for safety reasons
and fair play to them
but why didnt the Irish authorities change there's as well ?
By:
penzance
When: 08 Feb 23 22:50
Horse jumped well enough except the last.Looked a btn horse at
the time anyway.
Mullins,clutching at straws with that excuse.
By:
irishone
When: 09 Feb 23 15:49
Why would the champion trainer need excuses ?
Its a perfectly valid point.
Racehorses are particularly fickle
Can see how the researchers reached their conclusion
....none of us know for definite how any racehorse would react
By:
duffy
When: 09 Feb 23 17:41
I think that the BHA should have informed Mullins about the change in order for him to have put up the white boards on his gallops at home for Energumene to have practiced over rather than springing it on him on the day.
By:
irishone
When: 05 Mar 23 21:13
Mullins taking every precaution in search of Cheltenham whitewash

Last season’s Cheltenham Festival meeting was a Willie Mullins whitewash — and he is not leaving anything to chance in pursuit of something similar next week.

Having won a remarkable 10 races over the four days at Prestbury Park — taking his tally at the Festival to a record 88 winners — the Closutton handler revealed he has painted all the bars on his schooling fences and hurdles white.

White markings on the frames, guard rails and take-off boards replaced traditional orange colourings on obstacles at every British racecourse last year.

The British Horseracing Authority’s decision for the colour change, following guidance from experts at Exeter University into horse vision, came in the interests of horse welfare and safety.

In years past, Mullins has worked and schooled horses at Leopardstown prior to running at Cheltenham.

This year will be a little different, however. Speaking at the Dublin track to Racing TV on Sunday, he explained: “I don’t see much point in schooling here, if they all jump well


Unless someone comes round with a bucket of whitewash tomorrow and paints those fences, I don’t see much point in schooling over the orange bars.

“I’ve put in a whole new schooling operation with white hurdles and fences and we’ll do our stuff at home.”

Mullins is a stickler for details and knows that with competition so fierce at the Festival, every mistake is magnified.

He added: “Some horses could go down (and jump) over blue fences, yellow fences, it wouldn’t matter a damn to them — they are just that cool.

“Other horses will look at them from a half-mile out and they will see something different, so you never know which one, especially in the shorter races if you want to be up there and and have your position.

“You don’t want to have them looking at the first hurdle and backing off it or the first fence and backing off it, because you just lose your position and then at Cheltenham you are playing catch-up the whole time.



Whereas round the country tracks or not at the big meetings, it doesn’t matter so much, as you’ll get your ground back much easier — but at Cheltenham, no one gives you an inch.

“So what you lose at the first hurdle or fence, it’s gone, you are not going to get it back.”

Mullins said his powerful string has taken to the painted obstacles well and is looking forward to the meeting, which starts on Tuesday week.

“They are jumping them every second day at home, so we’re good.”

He added: “Fingers crossed, toes crossed, everything crossed. We are very happy with how most things are.

“You are always going to get little upsets, but we still have another week to go before we travel. Things will come right, but nothing major"
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