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15 Feb 22
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Both of these two against the clock look amazing on their most recent runs.
If they stay apart, in theory these favs can’t lose.
The negatives would be similar vibes from monkfish last year before labouring to win the Rsa, while Bravemansgame also couldn’t win, all be it against two very useful yardsticks last March after being hyped up.
Townend and Cobdon are also not my favourite jockeys at Cheltenham, but oh the times, both covered the last half miles of their respective races as quick as two milers on the same card when including various weights carried!
Fingers crossed they stay apart, these novice races can be very predictable at Cheltenham, which is good for punters. If you prefer backing bigger priced animals, just do the without fav market.
If they do turn up in the same race though, I wouldn’t be interested in the forecast as one could easily come down trying to match the other. It would be a race for the ages if they both stand their ground though!
If they stay apart, in theory these favs can’t lose.
The negatives would be similar vibes from monkfish last year before labouring to win the Rsa, while Bravemansgame also couldn’t win, all be it against two very useful yardsticks last March after being hyped up.
Townend and Cobdon are also not my favourite jockeys at Cheltenham, but oh the times, both covered the last half miles of their respective races as quick as two milers on the same card when including various weights carried!
Fingers crossed they stay apart, these novice races can be very predictable at Cheltenham, which is good for punters. If you prefer backing bigger priced animals, just do the without fav market.
If they do turn up in the same race though, I wouldn’t be interested in the forecast as one could easily come down trying to match the other. It would be a race for the ages if they both stand their ground though!
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Well atleast it will me a good race, very annoying from a punting point of view when the Turners looks so easy. The only way I see Bob Olinger winning is a similar finish to champ a few years ago in the RSA, he has the gears to it.
Inclined to agree with EnglandBarnes1 here. Personally, my view would be:
Galopin Des Champs main asset is his jumping. With his prominent racing style wanting to be up with, if not making the running and his proven stamina then dropping back to the Turners makes the perfect sense. You jump at a quicker speed in the 2m4f than you do in the 3m race and if you are able to jump perfectly at speed then you expose cracks in the one's who cant. I know the argument-would be that Galopin may vulnerable to something quicker up the hill in the last 2f of the race but if he has taken a length out the field at each fence in the lead up to the last 2f, then there may just be too much ground to make up from the back of the last. His relentless gallop probably suits the new course better also with that long run in from the bottom bend.
Bob Ollinger's main asset is turn of foot and natural speed. I don't think he is a per say 'bad jumper' but he isn't anywhere as natural or fluent as Galopin. If he is slightly slower over his fences then surely stepping him up to the 3m race where by nature you jump at less speed makes the perfect sense. Then by having gone slower in the race itself, he can use his biggest asset at the end of the race when the jumping is done exactly like Champ did. I also think his running style lends itself to the old course more than the new course
Bob's natural speed means very little if he is losing a length at each fence and having his slower jumping cracks exposed.
Like everyone else seemingly, I am on GDC (3m) and BO (2m4f) but the way the season has unfolded, this is probably my honest non pocket talking assessment
Galopin Des Champs main asset is his jumping. With his prominent racing style wanting to be up with, if not making the running and his proven stamina then dropping back to the Turners makes the perfect sense. You jump at a quicker speed in the 2m4f than you do in the 3m race and if you are able to jump perfectly at speed then you expose cracks in the one's who cant. I know the argument-would be that Galopin may vulnerable to something quicker up the hill in the last 2f of the race but if he has taken a length out the field at each fence in the lead up to the last 2f, then there may just be too much ground to make up from the back of the last. His relentless gallop probably suits the new course better also with that long run in from the bottom bend.
Bob Ollinger's main asset is turn of foot and natural speed. I don't think he is a per say 'bad jumper' but he isn't anywhere as natural or fluent as Galopin. If he is slightly slower over his fences then surely stepping him up to the 3m race where by nature you jump at less speed makes the perfect sense. Then by having gone slower in the race itself, he can use his biggest asset at the end of the race when the jumping is done exactly like Champ did. I also think his running style lends itself to the old course more than the new course
Bob's natural speed means very little if he is losing a length at each fence and having his slower jumping cracks exposed.
Like everyone else seemingly, I am on GDC (3m) and BO (2m4f) but the way the season has unfolded, this is probably my honest non pocket talking assessment
You jump at a quicker speed in the 2m4f than you do in the 3m race and if you are able to jump perfectly at speed
That major issue was what Mullins highlighted immediately after the last race as the reason why he thought that Galopin made the slight mistakes he did and that fundamentally shows us how Mullins thinks and why he would edge toward the 3 mile race.
I actually think it should be BMG who should come back in trip, Galopin doesn't need to take the chance in taking on Bob when the 3 mile will suit him perfectly well and he looks such a strong stayer, Nicholl's should consider what he thinks is easier, matching Galopin and then outstaying him or taking the chance of getting Bob at it.
That major issue was what Mullins highlighted immediately after the last race as the reason why he thought that Galopin made the slight mistakes he did and that fundamentally shows us how Mullins thinks and why he would edge toward the 3 mile race.
I actually think it should be BMG who should come back in trip, Galopin doesn't need to take the chance in taking on Bob when the 3 mile will suit him perfectly well and he looks such a strong stayer, Nicholl's should consider what he thinks is easier, matching Galopin and then outstaying him or taking the chance of getting Bob at it.
Markets suggesting OP may get his wish. Is there a quote I've missed re Galopin's target?
GDC very likely to go for Turners acc to WPM last nite. Big drift on him for the old RSA - bravemansgame will start shortish fav fir that now. Will just jump them off the oak. You won't see a better or cleverer jumping novice chaser, In any event GDC is well overhyped and Bob could outspeed him over Turners distance.
Not seen what WPM said but just a friendly reminder to pay attention to the question as well as the answer as Willie does tend to agree with any leading question, and three days later go back to whatever he first thought.
If you take that quote at face value, the 2s on Bravemansgame looks a steal. I can't see what else might get close to him. However, until I see the final decs on Cheltenham Monday, I won't be convinced.
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