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irishone
05 Jan 22 15:48
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Bravemansgame .....some horse

Only half decent one I have seen from over there (outside of poison nickys), so far this winter
...but will nichols have him right on the day ?
...will nichols turn up for the festival (hasn't done lately)

Horse looks pretty unbeatable, willie and the lads will have their best out but the horse looks like a tank for you english lads this year .....
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Report irishone January 5, 2022 3:52 PM GMT
I heard johnjo fancies one of his for the bumper but ......well it is willies race after all ennit ?
Report duffy January 5, 2022 4:56 PM GMT
Nicholl's seems to sound a bit sorry for himself when talking about the festival, what did he say? what's the point in running to finish 5th or 6th, sounds a bit pessimistic considering the impression the horse has given so far.

He was pretty stung after going into the festival buoyant last year with the horse only to be well and truly put in his place by Bob O and this year he once again will have either the same horse in his way or maybe even more scary, Galopin Des Champs.

The big plus is that he looks a lot better chaser and his jumping has been exemplary whereas Bob has only had one run and will need to improve his jumping.
Report irishone January 5, 2022 5:16 PM GMT
Yeah nichols is the worry
Think the horse has got it
But whatever it is
Nichols hasnt

Stormy Ireland a classic example, 6 wins under willie, goes to nichols no wins, back to willie three more wins. I mean stormy ireland is a half decent horse but nichols couldnt get a win out of him in four months ?
Report duffy January 8, 2022 5:17 AM GMT
Would be a crime if Nicholl's feels that he's taken one too many beatings at the festival that he ducks it with this horse.

What a beautifully fluent and clever jumper he is, regardless of what the Irish have it shouldn't matter.

I'd have thought it runs the risk of scaring off big owners with good horses if they think that their horses might not be getting trained with the festival in mind.

He's saying similar things about Stage Star I believe. I'm sure John Dance et al will step in and tell him to give his head a shake.
Report sageform January 10, 2022 10:42 AM GMT
The Irish challenge will be strong but don't forget that Denman was beaten in the novice hurdle before running away with the novice chase. If Paul thinks he can win he will run.
Report layingisthewayforward January 10, 2022 1:55 PM GMT
The bloke has had 46 cheltenham festival winners inc 4 gold cups and the OP think's Nichols doesn't have it as a Cheltenham trainer ? CrazyCrazy
Report irishone January 10, 2022 5:42 PM GMT
Yeah , but he has fallen off the radar lately. Six in the last four years ?

Hope he does get this one right though because it can certainly jumo.
Report duffy January 10, 2022 5:49 PM GMT
Nobody is questioning his record at the festival, what is being questioned is whether he has suffered one to many knocks there and in essence his bottle has gone.

Of course he knows more than us laymen but BMG not going to the festival because it will somehow work against him/not ready etc is nonsense, he jumps like an old hand ffs and has looked as impressive a novice as we've seen in recent years.

The horse he well and truly put in his place at Kempton is entered in the GC ffs!!

I'm sure when it comes to it he will run and reckon it will be another crack at Bob O and maybe get him in trouble with his jumping rather than taking on Galopin Des Champs whos jumping looked immaculate too on debut and looks as if he will be a really strong stayer at 3 miles.
Report irishone January 10, 2022 5:49 PM GMT
Just checked, latest record is actually worse !

He obviously didnt turn up last year, I want him there because I think the horse is half decent.

Like to see a few decent ones at Cheltenham festival now ....wouldn't want Dublin to eclipse it.
Report impossible123 January 16, 2022 4:32 PM GMT
Will Nicholls have a winner at the Festival? He's only prolific on saturdays locally; an over-ran at major events.
Report brandyontherocks January 16, 2022 5:10 PM GMT
I think he is a top trainer. He knows if he hasn't got a horse good enough to win at Cheltenham he can farm some other group 1 races
Report duffy January 20, 2022 5:51 PM GMT
He might as well run at the festival, looking at the KG for the next couple of years it looks as if there are plenty of potential Irish superstars that will be queuing up to give him all he can handle. Clan was laid out for it this year and the Irish won it with the rag.
Report irishone February 8, 2022 3:18 PM GMT
The intention is for Bravemansgame to run in the novices’ handicap over two-mile-seven as a prep for Cheltenham. We’ve put him in the Denman in case anything happened to Clan, but the intention is to run in the handicap,” said Nicholls.
Report irishone February 8, 2022 3:21 PM GMT
Half decent horse
Shame really
Report ENGLANDBARNES1 February 10, 2022 2:32 AM GMT
Nicholls horses rarely run up to their marks at Cheltenham, especially if cobdon seems to ride. I’ve not seen the stats tbh, but it feels like it, I like Bravemansgame but will take a few lb off his mark when going through whatever race he turns up in.
Report irishone February 10, 2022 8:21 AM GMT
Why is he running him so close to the festival?
Its a shame but when you go over there and see Siredegrucy, mywaydesolzen and goshen trained by basic amateurs you realise the difference in class between willie, aiden,gordon et al and your moores, tizzards, hoBbs, nichols.

Those horses failed to reach their potential . They should have been cheltenham winners time after time but the trainers never got to the bottom of them.

Mick Channon knew the score !
Report ENGLANDBARNES1 February 11, 2022 2:40 AM GMT
Maybe it’s more to do with the facilities the horses are trained on?

Maybe Nicholls has changed something since he had his big stars ten years ago?

I’ve noticed some trainers have great strikerates on level tracks, but they are awful on undulating tracks. I’d guess they don’t have a decent hill facility to therefore train and the best out of a horse at Cheltenham?

I was told that Alan King had a massive hill he’d gallop them up, but he seems to of faded from the Cheltenham winners enclosure for instance.
Report irishone February 11, 2022 7:23 AM GMT
Agree barnes

young tizzard did the same when he took over ...changed the fallops around

Gordons is dead flat ?

I have a notion that the twists and turns and undulations at Galway give you a clear indication of a cheltenham prospect since i watched annie power and don come up the hill in their youth
Report irishone February 12, 2022 1:24 PM GMT
Hit him twice today
Different class
Stays 3 miles !
Report ENGLANDBARNES1 February 12, 2022 8:58 PM GMT
That’s strange hoe Elliott has loads of Cheltenham winners then without a hilly gallop.

Yeah you are definitely on the right path, I take notice of horses that go well on tight tracks.

Was it Bellestown that had a couple of horses run their enroute to winning at the festival?
It can be the strangest of places that they hone their skills.
Report northanlite March 13, 2022 8:31 AM GMT
It is starting to look a bit like Bravemansgame may be Nicholls only runner in the nov chase
despite him saying several times that Threeunderthrufive would run in it too on owners orders.
Has PN now got his way and talked the owner into the NH chase or have they been putting us away
all along?
It does seem the better option for Threeunder tbf but i guess we will find out later today.
Report penzance March 13, 2022 10:42 AM GMT
Threeunderfive not declared for
the NH Chse.
Report penzance March 13, 2022 10:45 AM GMT
Beatthebullet (R Curtis),the only rnr
out of 7 from over here entered.
Report northanlite March 13, 2022 11:00 AM GMT
oh well, looks like paul lost the argument then.
i thought it had a better chance in the amateur race but don't matter now.
looks a hot nov chase
Report impossible123 March 14, 2022 4:53 PM GMT
What price for Nicholl getting a winner?
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