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27 Feb 21
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Why would anyone run a Grade 1 horse in a handicap rather than a Grade 1 race?
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Because he is the third best at Elliott's?
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Unless I've missed news about Duffle Coat the interest in Quilixious could be good news for backers of Duffle Coat, but not backed by market. Or Elliot has confidence in Zanahiyr doing the business.
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It's strange. The Triumph (new course, likely to be a proper stamina test) should suit Quilixios well.
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What's this about someone impersonating Elliot on social media being investigated by IRHB? Has the person been spouting unauthorised rumours about his runners at Cheltenham eg Zanayiyr running in the Supreme a few weeks ago? And, today the drift in Quilixios in the Triumph? If so, just mischief.
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Elliott must have a lot of confidence in Zanahiyr, so why win one race, when you can two
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Is the ceiling for Fred Winter 145? Surely he won't get in if so...
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Sorry Bootles
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Is there 1
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https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/sportsnews/article-9308249/amp/Gordon-Elliot-investigation-image-sat-dead-horse-surfaces.html?__twitter_impression=true&fbclid=IwAR19BUjuFIuw9dyBTuCCFaq2ORVQhJkOV48rU9KKryUMOdh6gJaRwZY5kxw
Absolutely fake news ! |
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Gordon has more brains that impossible could ever imagine
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Q looks to be heading to the Boodles.
Would make sense, they dont want em all smashed by Tritonic. |
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Don't think so Benring, was doubting myself as I can't remember seeing one ever so high in it
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Budd it'll take a goodun to beat Zanahyir, that was a piss poor Grade 2 yesterday
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 yeah I know , but I was visually very impressed with that yesterday, we shall see whose best in March |
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How else could you be impressed budd ?
Taste ? Feel ? |
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well I could have been not impressed |
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Yeah it wasn't bad imo either but clearly an over reaction in the market.. He beat 125 rated horses just as easy as Teahpoo did as well..
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Very much agree with the OP. Elliott can have no way of knowing which of his exciting juveniles is most likely to win the Triumph unless or until they’re given the opportunity to race against each other.
Quilixios is a proven Grade 1 performer who should be well suited to the demands of the New Course. I’d be amazed if he doesn’t run in the race. |
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I'm on Quilixous and hope you are right.. Regardless if they have a claimer on the Fred Winter or not that would be some performance from a potential rating of around 147.. Also why would you avoid a Grade one for a handicap, understand you want to keep your horses apart but he could still win the Fred(Bootles) with Teaphoo or Riverie dtele
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Might there be some owner politics going on? Wanting his big new owners to win a Festival Grade 1?
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Could well be Strontium, as after the race at Ltown few weeks back thought it was really strange of Elliott and Barry coming out and basically saying Zanahyr is better
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Normally they would be less vocal on the matter concerning horses within the yard
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Gordons apologised
Photo four years old Fake news Who fecking cares? |
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yeah hes phone rang so he sat on the dead horse...as u would of course
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At least he didn't flog it.
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Quilixious out to 16s for this now, must be going for the Triumph instead
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https://www.attheraces.com/news/2021/March/08/quilixios-camp-yet-to-decide-between-boodles-and-triumph
If he ends up in the Boodles I don't think I can recall too many more ridiculous decisions in Festival history. Irrespective of him being much less suited to a cavalry charge on a quicker track (the exact opposite of what they are saying), you just don't run Grade 1 winners in ordinary handicaps out of choice. Until Tritonic appeared he was second favourite for the Triumph. Of course bookmakers will be laughing as people will be on at big prices for the Triumph, but they were able to put him in much shorter for the Boodles. |
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The only one of the Elliott 4yos not entered for the Boodles is Duffle Coat who I still rate the best of them. He beat Adagio and Cabot Cliffs giving weight at Cheltenham back in November on decent ground and is the going why he has not run since? If that form was run today with Adagio now rated 146, Duffle Coat would get 156 which would win most Triumphs. Goshen was given an RPR of 156 after last years race on the basis of what he might have done had he not fallen.
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It would be a strange decision if Quilixios ends up in The Boodles. He'd be shouldering top weight of 11s 8oz, if so. Would it not be better to skip Cheltenham altogether if connections are not keen of The Triumph race?
Surely, connections are not afraid of Zanagiyr and Forster (Elliot). |
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I agree Impossible - if he's going to run at Cheltenham, may as well run in the Triumph rather than lump top weight in a 20-runner handicap. If they think the Triumph might be bad for the horse long-term (as Paul Nicholls often does), wouldn't it be better to skip the Festival altogether?
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If is a problem with the Triumph as a race then why has it taken so long to say anything? Why even enter? None of this adds up. As usual we will be only ones discussing it.
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Zanahiyr is also still in the Boodles with top weight. Hell Red would be my tentative choice if he runs.
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I lost two bets on Hell Red for the Triumph. He was the early favourite after the Chepstow win, but he hasn't looked the same horse since. Very disappointing short priced loser last time when Frost spent most of the race trying to get him settled.
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I think Elliot was adamant Zanahiyr was Triumph bound unless new management have decided otherwise since.
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new management
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I cannot really refer to incumbent as "monkey" given the issue that precipitated a regime change.
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The Triumph would seem to be the target for Zanahiyr but so it was for Quixilios? Just pointing out that they are all in the Boodles including Teahupoo and Youmdor.
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Quilixous out to 16s on here again
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De Bromhead says he will run in the Triumph. Mad not to.
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