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Pity that Boris dont hold his hands up
To his stupidity .....whats he up to now 110,000 deaths ?
Great example of too far up his own backside
To his stupidity .....whats he up to now 110,000 deaths ?
Great example of too far up his own backside
it was you who said you dont think he owes anybody an apology !
No mate , not at all, I was brought up in England, married in England and have two English children, so I cant hate them !
Once you live elsewhere. You see the English abroad. Cant generalise but ...... they have an awful reputation .
Once you live elsewhere. You see the English abroad. Cant generalise but ...... they have an awful reputation .
If that is the respect he is showing for a dead horse . the mind only boggles on what else has been going on , we had the incident where Davy punched a horse 
There maybe more to come, the Daily Mail must have been 100 % to go with the story , so what else have they got ,is the question
Absolute madness and has put a large stain on the sport that will certainly be exploited to
the full by the Animal Rights Mob
There maybe more to come, the Daily Mail must have been 100 % to go with the story , so what else have they got ,is the question
Absolute madness and has put a large stain on the sport that will certainly be exploited to
the full by the Animal Rights Mob
Irish going on About Boris and a few english pishheads Abroad , U cannot make it up WTF has that got to do with GE ?
Plenty of Irish Folks knocking him on Twitter IRISH , not sure nationality comes into it TBH
Hope you are well case
I was asked if I hated the English case
Thats how we went off topic
You know that aint true !
As for Gordon he was out of order
He has held his hands up and apologised
Do you really want to see the end of his career over this ?
There would be a good few English trainers that would welcome it
I was asked if I hated the English case
Thats how we went off topic
You know that aint true !
As for Gordon he was out of order
He has held his hands up and apologised
Do you really want to see the end of his career over this ?
There would be a good few English trainers that would welcome it
He will train by Proxy regardless , The Authorities will need to take some action ..
As bad as the one pic is lets hope there is no more to come , The Mail had to be 100%
before they went with the story . Has to be more than a picture involved , Who sent them
the photo I wonder ?
As bad as the one pic is lets hope there is no more to come , The Mail had to be 100%
before they went with the story . Has to be more than a picture involved , Who sent them
the photo I wonder ?
if the photo is real it should and will be the end of his career,it would be indefencable and if not banned owners would have to leave because it wouldnt be good for them to be associated with him whatever they think
The IHRB's official investigation remains a work in progress, but, via a statement on Sunday night, Elliott has sought to provide some background to the sequence of events that led to the picture.
The statement read: "I would like to address the speculation and rumours that have been rife since an old photo of me began circulating on social media yesterday afternoon.
"Firstly, I apologise profoundly for any offence that this photo has caused and can categorically state that the welfare of each and every horse under my care is paramount and has been central to the success that we have enjoyed here at Cullentra.
"The photo in question was taken some time ago and occurred after a horse had died of an apparent heart attack on the gallops. I appreciate that an initial viewing of this photo suggests it is a callous and staged photo but nothing could be further from the truth.
"At what was a sad time, which it is when any horse under my care passes away, my initial reaction was to get the body removed from where it was positioned.
"I was standing over the horse waiting to help with the removal of the body, in the course of which, to my memory I received a call and, without thinking, I sat down to take it. Hearing a shout from one of my team, I gestured to wait until I was finished.
"Such background information may seem trivial at this time and will not allay the concerns of many people both within and outside the world of horse racing.
"However, I feel it is important to provide people with some context surrounding this photo. To the racing community, to anyone who has worked with and loves horses and to anyone offended by this image I cannot apologise enough.
The statement read: "I would like to address the speculation and rumours that have been rife since an old photo of me began circulating on social media yesterday afternoon.
"Firstly, I apologise profoundly for any offence that this photo has caused and can categorically state that the welfare of each and every horse under my care is paramount and has been central to the success that we have enjoyed here at Cullentra.
"The photo in question was taken some time ago and occurred after a horse had died of an apparent heart attack on the gallops. I appreciate that an initial viewing of this photo suggests it is a callous and staged photo but nothing could be further from the truth.
"At what was a sad time, which it is when any horse under my care passes away, my initial reaction was to get the body removed from where it was positioned.
"I was standing over the horse waiting to help with the removal of the body, in the course of which, to my memory I received a call and, without thinking, I sat down to take it. Hearing a shout from one of my team, I gestured to wait until I was finished.
"Such background information may seem trivial at this time and will not allay the concerns of many people both within and outside the world of horse racing.
"However, I feel it is important to provide people with some context surrounding this photo. To the racing community, to anyone who has worked with and loves horses and to anyone offended by this image I cannot apologise enough.
sounds like the photo is real from that statement,he is gone
Without thinking I sat down
Hearing a shout from one of my team I gestured to wait
Is that the best they could come up with
Hearing a shout from one of my team I gestured to wait
Is that the best they could come up with
Not particularly no.
I admired his accomplishments, no more.
I admired his accomplishments, no more.
Oh, how the mighty fall
I initially thought the photo was a photo shopped fake.
Now with Elliot's statement we find its real.
Can't see how he gets out of this with his reputation intact.
In today's society with news and social media 24/7/365, he will be pilloried.
It could be his position is now untenable.
I initially thought the photo was a photo shopped fake.
Now with Elliot's statement we find its real.
Can't see how he gets out of this with his reputation intact.
In today's society with news and social media 24/7/365, he will be pilloried.
It could be his position is now untenable.
I am telling you he has Made a Joke regarding himself being over weight and the horse has collapsed and Died , A sick Joke , we don't know how he was acting either side of the Pic
as for the Shyte he is now going on about below ,The hole is getting deeper ..
We have to understand he will have lost many a horse over the years who knows how many he
had lost in the months running up to this Maybe it was the final straw A horse collapsing on the gallops ..
I am not condoning his actions but I doubt very much everything is as it appears , and
it certainly is not what he is saying now , a sad chapter for horse racing , he needs
to make an appearance and say what really happened .
as for the Shyte he is now going on about below ,The hole is getting deeper ..
We have to understand he will have lost many a horse over the years who knows how many he
had lost in the months running up to this Maybe it was the final straw A horse collapsing on the gallops ..
I am not condoning his actions but I doubt very much everything is as it appears , and
it certainly is not what he is saying now , a sad chapter for horse racing , he needs
to make an appearance and say what really happened .
One of the surprises in the election is that President Donald Trump actually improved his standing with Black voters over four years ago.
And he may have done even better than 2 percentage points. If you compare the CCES numbers to the results of 2020 exit polls by Edison Research, Trump actually improved by 4 percentage points.
Explain that , why are these people Voting for Mr Trump an Accused Racist on these forums .
And he may have done even better than 2 percentage points. If you compare the CCES numbers to the results of 2020 exit polls by Edison Research, Trump actually improved by 4 percentage points.
Explain that , why are these people Voting for Mr Trump an Accused Racist on these forums .
Not sure how that happened I was on the Politics forum Apoligies
Everyday on dual carriageways , in Greece,you see geysers stop in the inside lane , get out their vehicles and have a pi55 on the side of the road.
My reaction ! " Pond Life " , " scum " , the same reaction as many above.
Thats Greece.
Who am I to criticise ?
What right do I have to judge something going on in another country using my understanding, my education, the morals and ethics that have been imposed upon me by another country ?
That leads you on to imperialism, colonialism whatever you want to call it.
Gordon Elliot sat on a dead horse, and apologised for being stupid
The gutter press of the UK who are not worth Shy!e.
"Ye without sin cast the first stone"
My reaction ! " Pond Life " , " scum " , the same reaction as many above.
Thats Greece.
Who am I to criticise ?
What right do I have to judge something going on in another country using my understanding, my education, the morals and ethics that have been imposed upon me by another country ?
That leads you on to imperialism, colonialism whatever you want to call it.
Gordon Elliot sat on a dead horse, and apologised for being stupid
The gutter press of the UK who are not worth Shy!e.
"Ye without sin cast the first stone"
Amazing that Willie refused to wear a facemask
Could be going around causing deaths to humans by transmitting the virus
Yet the Uk press chooses to castigate a trainer for sitting on a Dead
Yes a Dead horse .....
meanwhile Boris the one voted for in a UK landslide ...has got away with 110,000 HUMAN deaths.
FFS ....get yer priorities right ....
The irony of it !
Could be going around causing deaths to humans by transmitting the virus
Yet the Uk press chooses to castigate a trainer for sitting on a Dead
Yes a Dead horse .....
meanwhile Boris the one voted for in a UK landslide ...has got away with 110,000 HUMAN deaths.
FFS ....get yer priorities right ....
The irony of it !
The fact that the horse is dead is the whole sordid point !!
If the horse was alive and just lying down, it wouldn't be a problem.
It's making fun of a dead horse and showing utter disrespect that shows Elliot up in a bad light.
If the horse was alive and just lying down, it wouldn't be a problem.
It's making fun of a dead horse and showing utter disrespect that shows Elliot up in a bad light.
A sick picture, sick individual and sick poster defending him. And I’m sure 99.99% on here agree.
Some judgements there...
The "Whole" ? ..... "Utter disrespect"...."Bad light"
Who are you to make these judgements ?
Entitled to your opinion on here yes
But its not worth anything.
Same as the UK gutter press.
They aint worried about dead horses or irish trainers or horse racing
They just want to create news to keep themselves in a job
The "Whole" ? ..... "Utter disrespect"...."Bad light"
Who are you to make these judgements ?
Entitled to your opinion on here yes
But its not worth anything.
Same as the UK gutter press.
They aint worried about dead horses or irish trainers or horse racing
They just want to create news to keep themselves in a job
The use of the term fun is interesting.
The picture was actually taken in jest.
It brings monty pythons dead parrot sketch to mind .
The picture was actually taken in jest.
It brings monty pythons dead parrot sketch to mind .
Not at all
The lads created what they deemed a fun picture
The media created the news for everyone else to see
The lads created what they deemed a fun picture
The media created the news for everyone else to see
Fantastic jim, awful strict lockdown but weather is good, beach is good , yeah good place to be isolating!
those firing fireworks in the face of police officers over the weekend in dublin city did not seem to be isolating ,after the planned march against the vaccine and restrictions,
The media didnt have to pick upon it
We have all created loads of pictures
How many of yours went to press ?
Just because there is a picture doesnt make it news.
We have all created loads of pictures
How many of yours went to press ?
Just because there is a picture doesnt make it news.
nobody would be interested in me but if i was filmed kicking a dead dog down the street then they would
I would be interested in a kind of lets laugh at a dead parrot sketch in monty python
its a sketch and then people laugh even though in bad taste,use real dead parrots and nobody laughs and they get slaughtered
right to protest ?
you said strict lock down this was a mob armed with missiles breaking covid restriction intent on harming people ,the same mob will be in cork next weekend are you ok with this sort of thing ?
you said strict lock down this was a mob armed with missiles breaking covid restriction intent on harming people ,the same mob will be in cork next weekend are you ok with this sort of thing ?
Autocue it is statements like calling us cheap labour than nurtures the tension
The comment was wrong. But you don’t comment when Irish is being blatantly racist on here.
Dont think he will be too worried about that.
Anytime you want to put up my blatantly racist posts hibore you do so.
Prepare for the backlash.
Anytime you want to put up my blatantly racist posts hibore you do so.
Prepare for the backlash.
I don’t need to put any old ones up you have done yourself proud over the last 24 hours.
Notice you have left the main thread on Horse Racing as well.
Slicer 01 Mar 21 09:54 Joined: 10 Jan 03
Just returned from a delightful walk in the park watching nature at its finest & caught up with more very inciteful & interesting posts. However there is one poster & just one poster on the last few pages who makes me believe in re incarnation because no one could develop such stupidity in just one lifetime! I'll leave it to all you sensible guys & gals to work out to whom I'm referring.
Guess who this is ? Clue has “one” in his name.
Notice you have left the main thread on Horse Racing as well.
Slicer 01 Mar 21 09:54 Joined: 10 Jan 03
Just returned from a delightful walk in the park watching nature at its finest & caught up with more very inciteful & interesting posts. However there is one poster & just one poster on the last few pages who makes me believe in re incarnation because no one could develop such stupidity in just one lifetime! I'll leave it to all you sensible guys & gals to work out to whom I'm referring.
Guess who this is ? Clue has “one” in his name.
hibore
look at his 1051 reply yesterday,then ask yourself why do you continue to reply to somebody like this.
i should also ask myself the same question
look at his 1051 reply yesterday,then ask yourself why do you continue to reply to somebody like this.
i should also ask myself the same question
100% correct.
Problem is the Cheltenham forum is going down the pan because of posters like him.
Problem is the Cheltenham forum is going down the pan because of posters like him.
i get frustrated with impossible but i very much doubt he is a bad human.
the poster impossible123 is very enthusiastic
about racing,no malice in him whatsoever.
about racing,no malice in him whatsoever.
He thought it was funny at that Moment, big error ,Squirming now and adding stupid other reasons only making things worse ..
As stated elsewhere there could be more to come .
As stated elsewhere there could be more to come .
irish,
I must say that the irony has not been lost on me that someone so patriotic as yourself turns out had it on his toes to Greece
Shirley O' Valentine
I must say that the irony has not been lost on me that someone so patriotic as yourself turns out had it on his toes to Greece
Shirley O' Valentine
. Brilliant duffy Afraid we got caught in lockdown November.
Problem is the Cheltenham forum is going down the pan because of posters like him.
No. Hibore the reason is that you are a liar .
Not only do you lie about other people you also lie about your betting.
You lied about me backing notebook
You lied about yourself backing Shiskin
....and now you lied about betting Champ
Hibore 31 Mar 20 23:28. Champ 14/1 - 4 pt EW
Hibore20 Apr 20 18:37. Champ 14/1 - 7 pt EW
I’ve increased both bets slightly and biggest ante post bets I’ve every put on so far out.Anyone else had any hefty bets in the Gold Cup so far out ?
Hefty bets indeed .....Until .....
Hibore21 Feb 21 20:15.
Fairly happy with my position now all the trials have been run although my selections have flip flopped in the betting. Champ 14/1 - 4 pt EW
So you didnt do the hefty bets did you ?
No. Hibore the reason is that you are a liar .
Not only do you lie about other people you also lie about your betting.
You lied about me backing notebook
You lied about yourself backing Shiskin
....and now you lied about betting Champ
Hibore 31 Mar 20 23:28. Champ 14/1 - 4 pt EW
Hibore20 Apr 20 18:37. Champ 14/1 - 7 pt EW
I’ve increased both bets slightly and biggest ante post bets I’ve every put on so far out.Anyone else had any hefty bets in the Gold Cup so far out ?
Hefty bets indeed .....Until .....
Hibore21 Feb 21 20:15.
Fairly happy with my position now all the trials have been run although my selections have flip flopped in the betting. Champ 14/1 - 4 pt EW
So you didnt do the hefty bets did you ?
As for anyone else.
Gordon Elliot has apologised and said sorry.
Clearly it was a joke within the context that the photograph was taken.
If you have never done anything stupid then go ahead casting your stones.
Gordon Elliot just might be the victim here.
Four years is too long a time.
If and when the whole story comes out dont be surprised, I dont think we should assume anything
I dont believe anyone's posts on here
and I wouldn't discuss it to any depth without confirmation.
How many careers did the News of the World ruin before they got caught ?
Gordon Elliot has apologised and said sorry.
Clearly it was a joke within the context that the photograph was taken.
If you have never done anything stupid then go ahead casting your stones.
Gordon Elliot just might be the victim here.
Four years is too long a time.
If and when the whole story comes out dont be surprised, I dont think we should assume anything
I dont believe anyone's posts on here
and I wouldn't discuss it to any depth without confirmation.
How many careers did the News of the World ruin before they got caught ?
BREAKING: The British Horseracing Authority will not allow Gordon Elliott to saddle runners in Britain while the Irish authorities investigate an image that appeared on social media over the weekend https://t.co/wN4ciFHwfa
Its not good
For the public morale of a country with the fifth worst covid record in the world
To take another hiding at Cheltenham.....
For the public morale of a country with the fifth worst covid record in the world
To take another hiding at Cheltenham.....
very sad day, on reflection having thought about this the last 48 hours i hope he survives this let his owners decide his future.
Cheltenham is seen as an annual battle between the english and the irish in the english press....
You have to remember whenever a government wants to reunite, raise morale, change focus , etc
It points itself at war or sport....
Last year loss figures of ten billion sterling were banded about if covid cancelled Cheltenham.
Cheltenham is very very important to the UK Government.
They were heavily criticised for letting it go ahead.
Besides the income there is in this instance public morale.
You have to remember whenever a government wants to reunite, raise morale, change focus , etc
It points itself at war or sport....
Last year loss figures of ten billion sterling were banded about if covid cancelled Cheltenham.
Cheltenham is very very important to the UK Government.
They were heavily criticised for letting it go ahead.
Besides the income there is in this instance public morale.
It is a sad day for horse racing jimnast
I completely agree with you
Because imvho the Irish h r b wont be manipulated
By the bha
I completely agree with you
Because imvho the Irish h r b wont be manipulated
By the bha
This has nothing to do with the UKG much as I dislike them, that's a ridiculous stance. A ban is massively unfair on his staff and owners but images like this simply cannot be tolerated. I suspect the Irish authorities are now compelled to act quickly so I can easily see them banning Elliot then he will appeal and be free to run horses pending that appeal with the ban upheld and implemented post the big festival meetings.
some of the **** being talked on Twitter in regards to this, the BHA imo are very foolish to come out with the threatening statement... It could easily go the other way and Irish trainers in its entirety pulling the plug on there horses !!!
We didnt chuck 800 years of British rule out of the window for nothing.
The BHA wont manipulate the IHRB
Who the feck do they think they are ?
The BHA wont manipulate the IHRB
Who the feck do they think they are ?
amazing how many people get themselves in complete sh.t due to women.
you may find a member of another irish training family involved in the reason for it finding its way online.
Whoever takes over has a major problem with the rule in uk.
A Person must not, without the prior written permission of the BHA, associate with the following in connection with horseracing in Great Britain:
a Disqualified Person; or
a person subject to an Exclusion Order.
So it definitely wont be family
A Person must not, without the prior written permission of the BHA, associate with the following in connection with horseracing in Great Britain:
a Disqualified Person; or
a person subject to an Exclusion Order.
So it definitely wont be family
Whats the b h a authority anyway their rules specifically say GREAT BRITAIN
A Person must not engage in conduct which the BHA considers is prejudicial to the integrity, proper conduct or good reputation of horseracing in Great Britain.
The pic was taken in Ireland. So its outside the U K
Godolphin must be sh1tting themselves .......NOT
A Person must not engage in conduct which the BHA considers is prejudicial to the integrity, proper conduct or good reputation of horseracing in Great Britain.
The pic was taken in Ireland. So its outside the U K
Godolphin must be sh1tting themselves .......NOT
I think the point has drifted off piste.
The fact is the picture was showing wrong doing. Whether it was in jest or something else, it was not right. I can't actually believe that Elliot would have let the picture be taken to be honest, and if it was against his wishes, why he allowed someone to walk away with that without reporting the incident to the Irish Horseracing Board immediately after, knowing the potential damage it could do......surely he would have known it would surface at some point.
Someone of Elliot's status in the sport, would understand what he does will be scrutinised....its the same for all elite sports. His saving grace here, is that it was not corruption related (nobbling a horse or using performance enhancing drugs etc). This was purely a lack of good judgement...albeit a serious one.
Now that it is out there, the authorities can't ignore it. They need to act to protect the integrity of the sport so potential owners and sponsors don't desert the sport. This is all about protecting that.
It has nothing to do with covid, nothing to do with rivalry, nothing to do with treating any particular trainer differently......it's about protecting the longevity of a sport we love.
I feel so sorry for the stable staff, owners etc who may now have to change everything or they will not get to be part of some fantastic festivals and days out.
We would all want to see the decent horses from Ireland to come over, that's the life blood of the festival. (and yes, I have back several of Elliot's horses)
I would ask though.....
.....if the picture was taken some years ago, why has it surfaced now?....and just before Cheltenham at that....just saying.
The fact is the picture was showing wrong doing. Whether it was in jest or something else, it was not right. I can't actually believe that Elliot would have let the picture be taken to be honest, and if it was against his wishes, why he allowed someone to walk away with that without reporting the incident to the Irish Horseracing Board immediately after, knowing the potential damage it could do......surely he would have known it would surface at some point.
Someone of Elliot's status in the sport, would understand what he does will be scrutinised....its the same for all elite sports. His saving grace here, is that it was not corruption related (nobbling a horse or using performance enhancing drugs etc). This was purely a lack of good judgement...albeit a serious one.
Now that it is out there, the authorities can't ignore it. They need to act to protect the integrity of the sport so potential owners and sponsors don't desert the sport. This is all about protecting that.
It has nothing to do with covid, nothing to do with rivalry, nothing to do with treating any particular trainer differently......it's about protecting the longevity of a sport we love.
I feel so sorry for the stable staff, owners etc who may now have to change everything or they will not get to be part of some fantastic festivals and days out.
We would all want to see the decent horses from Ireland to come over, that's the life blood of the festival. (and yes, I have back several of Elliot's horses)
I would ask though.....
.....if the picture was taken some years ago, why has it surfaced now?....and just before Cheltenham at that....just saying.
Let's see what outcome the IHRB come up with.
Until then the BHA should let that jurisdiction deal with their own affairs before getting involved.
Until then the BHA should let that jurisdiction deal with their own affairs before getting involved.
ss
to answer your question a standing p.ick has no conscience.
to answer your question a standing p.ick has no conscience.
jimnast
You seem to have knowledge of information that is not in the public domain?
You seem to have knowledge of information that is not in the public domain?
No doubt more to come on this one, and maybe others now theres a market.....
Sorry shakespeare I find your analysis very one sided.
Firstly who decided sitting on a dead horse was wrong ?
There is no law against that. Dead horses are not protected by law as far as I know.
Secondly you assume elliot knew the picture being taken, why is that ?
If the BHA are so hell bent on protecting the integrity of their bit of the sport in the UK when are they going to ban sheikh mo and his godolphin operation ?
Lastly the incident happened in Ireland , so why are the BHA now manipulating the IHRB to sort the issue quickly. Who do they think they are ! ?
Your last "just saying" comment more than suggests the timing is very significant. Two weeks before Cheltenham , highly predicted by myself, you couldnt write it.....unless you look at the u k press for the period leading up to the last two festivals.
Firstly who decided sitting on a dead horse was wrong ?
There is no law against that. Dead horses are not protected by law as far as I know.
Secondly you assume elliot knew the picture being taken, why is that ?
If the BHA are so hell bent on protecting the integrity of their bit of the sport in the UK when are they going to ban sheikh mo and his godolphin operation ?
Lastly the incident happened in Ireland , so why are the BHA now manipulating the IHRB to sort the issue quickly. Who do they think they are ! ?
Your last "just saying" comment more than suggests the timing is very significant. Two weeks before Cheltenham , highly predicted by myself, you couldnt write it.....unless you look at the u k press for the period leading up to the last two festivals.
Bentring01 Mar 21 21:49Joined: 25 Dec 20 | Topic/replies: 118 | Blogger: Bentring's blog
Let's see what outcome the IHRB come up with.
Until then the BHA should let that jurisdiction deal with their own affairs before getting involved.
Agree 100%
Let's see what outcome the IHRB come up with.
Until then the BHA should let that jurisdiction deal with their own affairs before getting involved.
Agree 100%
Irish one can I just say I don't condone what Elliott has done or not done I will not be the judge of that.
But you're country has its own affairs to deal with this and that's how it should be.
But you're country has its own affairs to deal with this and that's how it should be.
@irishone
I thought you might.
I never said anything about any laws. My point is that it is about ethics and integrity. Elliot himself has said it was wrong, not me, him...in his own words (and that he is profoundly sorry I might add). Although I agree with that analysis, you clearly might disagree with Elliot and many others that think it is wrong, and you are very entitled to that opinion.
Our opinions don't really matter...it will be the authorities opinions that matter (and that of the owners/sponsors etc).
IRHB have yet to make decision on whether they think it is wrong. The BHA have already made their own interim decision tp protect interests at their end, they have done nothing to say he cannot train, or run horses anywhere else, just not in the UK until it is sorted. They are not saying the horses can't come over, just that they Elliot can't bring them. I think that is balanced, as I think my post was balanced.
I didn't assume Elliot knew the picture was being taken....read it again...I actually stated "and if it was against his wishes"
In relation to the comments about banning sheikh mo and his godolphin operation....i have no idea. Possibly agree with you, but it may be down to the current issues not involving his racing operation, or that there has been no admission etc. But i guess it can be used to deflect away from this.
Lastly the comment about the incident happened in Ireland....I partly agree with you. But i think they are simply protecting their interest and that of the UK racing, and that's why they have not gone as far as banning the horses Elliot is involved in....although I think they could have left that until after the IHRB's investigation, i simply do not know what their procedures in something like this are....as their website site states, they have been contacted by many in the sport. I further suppose they were asked to respond.
I'm not falling out with anyone on here, just joining the conversation.
I thought you might.
I never said anything about any laws. My point is that it is about ethics and integrity. Elliot himself has said it was wrong, not me, him...in his own words (and that he is profoundly sorry I might add). Although I agree with that analysis, you clearly might disagree with Elliot and many others that think it is wrong, and you are very entitled to that opinion.
Our opinions don't really matter...it will be the authorities opinions that matter (and that of the owners/sponsors etc).
IRHB have yet to make decision on whether they think it is wrong. The BHA have already made their own interim decision tp protect interests at their end, they have done nothing to say he cannot train, or run horses anywhere else, just not in the UK until it is sorted. They are not saying the horses can't come over, just that they Elliot can't bring them. I think that is balanced, as I think my post was balanced.
I didn't assume Elliot knew the picture was being taken....read it again...I actually stated "and if it was against his wishes"
In relation to the comments about banning sheikh mo and his godolphin operation....i have no idea. Possibly agree with you, but it may be down to the current issues not involving his racing operation, or that there has been no admission etc. But i guess it can be used to deflect away from this.
Lastly the comment about the incident happened in Ireland....I partly agree with you. But i think they are simply protecting their interest and that of the UK racing, and that's why they have not gone as far as banning the horses Elliot is involved in....although I think they could have left that until after the IHRB's investigation, i simply do not know what their procedures in something like this are....as their website site states, they have been contacted by many in the sport. I further suppose they were asked to respond.
I'm not falling out with anyone on here, just joining the conversation.
irishone 01 Mar 21 22:14
Secondly you assume elliot knew the picture being taken, why is that ?
What, you mean besides the dopey great grin on his face and the peace sign looking straight at the camera?
Secondly you assume elliot knew the picture being taken, why is that ?
What, you mean besides the dopey great grin on his face and the peace sign looking straight at the camera?
D uffy I have got thousands of pictures of myself with a dopey grin on my face ....who hasn't ?
D uffy I have got thousands of pictures of myself with a dopey grin on my face ....who hasn't ?
irishone how do you feel about your country sharing the 2030 world cup with the uk something boris is up for ?
I dont know which world cup you are talking about. We used to send our best horses over so that the bha could say Cheltenham was the best in the World, it aint. Typical of Boris if it is the Hurling or GAA football world cup. All about power and control. It woukd be.culturally significant if it was the morris dancing world cup, lot of irish are naturals after a few pints of the black stuff. Dont think we could handle the conkers world cup or the bog snorkling world cup to be honest. The shove ha'penny not our.cup of tea since decimilisation but you never know !
No idea why this thread has become a stream of consciousness thread. There’s a thread on the main horse racing forum where posters can vent their feelings about Elliott and “that” photo.
The question posed by the OP seems ironic in light of recent events.
The question posed by the OP seems ironic in light of recent events.
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