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30 Dec 20 09:25
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A busy x'mas programme has shone further light on the chances of the main protagonists and probable winners. Only 11 weeks to go, and I hope most of mine turn up raring to go.
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Report impossible123 December 30, 2020 10:00 AM GMT
I've virtually shut up shop where antepost betting is concerned eg:-
(1) Shishkin (4/1)
(2) Envoi Allen (5/2)
(3) Epatante (11/4 --> 4/1)
(4) Paisley Park (7/2 --> 7/1)
(5) Santini (9/1 --> 12/1)
(6) Champ (8/1 --> 14/1)
(7) Al Boum Photo (6/1 & 7/1)
(8) Zanahiyr (9/1)
(9) Samcro (14/1)

(1) & (2) - 14/1 & 11/1 win double
(1) & (2) & (3) & (4) - win trebles/acca
Either (1) and/or (2) and/or (3) with (4) or (5) or (6) or (7) or (8) - win doubles & trebles & 4/5 folds - too many to keep track
(8) Single; Sottsass (20/1) with Champ (12/1) - win double

The above 1st 2 (and 3) with Battleground/Thunder Moon/Wembley (2000G) and/or High Definition (Derby) or Pretty Gorgeous (1000G) or Indigo Girl (Oaks). A bonus if the majority turn up for their respective gig in 2021 despite the challenges of Covid.
Report jimnast December 30, 2020 11:07 AM GMT
should be plenty of winners in that lot impossible including the commonwealth cup winner.
Report impossible123 February 26, 2021 6:28 PM GMT
A mere 2.5 weeks to go. Bring it on!!!!!!!!!!
Report irishone February 26, 2021 9:50 PM GMT
Crazy betting
8\3 champ ?
9\3 santini
6\3 a b p

Months away from the contest
Me thinks theres a lot of losers
You conveniently forget about
Put up your non runners
Report Hibore February 26, 2021 10:21 PM GMT
Sounds like you have some good bets there Imp. Ignore the sh@t on here it’s just jealousy.
Report impossible123 February 26, 2021 11:21 PM GMT
Surprisingly all still standing but expecting a few gremlins come race days. Have "managed" Shishkin (11/1 & 14/1) and Champ (big prices thanks to Sottsass) - to stake money; probably "managed" others too if Shishkin (so many doubles/trebles/accas) obliges. Also, Energumene (recently) in doubles/trebles/accas with similar just in case - all nrnb.

It'd be nice to initiate a few shekels with the selections on the Flat.
Report irishone February 27, 2021 7:51 AM GMT
So you want to win obviously ....
And you have three of the first four in the gold cup betting ....

How does this equate to adien obrien sending 6 of the 8 runners over for the king george, a measure which you desrcibed as unsporting ?

Shirley ....all he wanted was to win ?
Report irishone February 27, 2021 7:53 AM GMT
That post will be conveniently ignored ....

Head in the sand punting !
Report FOYLESWAR February 27, 2021 9:10 AM GMT
a fair few of mine have fell by the wayside nature of the beast ,melon ,samcro ,saint roi ,fury road, to name a few ,backing at big prices tho so stakes not too damaging although not ideal, have a fair few that hopefully will make the festival one or 2 winners is hoped for any more would be great ,not long to go good luck everyone.
Report impossible123 February 27, 2021 6:50 PM GMT
Indeed, one or two winners can make the Festival. For me if Shishkin (he's significant) and Envoi Allen oblige everything is paid for given the win double prices; these two plus any other eg Epatante or Santini or Champ or Paisley Park or ABP will bring a nice return. A bonus and something to look forward to if they go on my Flat selections - no further outlay. But, so many hurdle to cross between now and Cheltenham prior.

Let's hope everyone has a good Cheltenham, and the bookies get a good spanking.
Report penzance February 27, 2021 9:23 PM GMT
decent prices
Report impossible123 March 1, 2021 3:15 PM GMT
Anyone seriously believe Elliot's horses will be refused participations at Cheltenham? Elliot could be banned from Cheltenham but his horses  will be allowed to run, why? The horseracing authority will not punish the owners, only the trainer. Thus, value could be had for some of his principals eg Envoi Allen and Zanahiyr.
Report jimnast March 1, 2021 3:32 PM GMT
impossible i think you have nothing to worry about with envoi allen been there .
Report Andymca March 1, 2021 3:49 PM GMT
I doubt that any investigation outcomes will be completed until after Cheltenham and so no action can be taken until then. Also as stated by others, you cannot penalise the owners for the actions of the trainer, especially in a case like this one
Report impossible123 March 1, 2021 4:15 PM GMT
Our BHA could be guilty of double standard if imposing a ban on Elliot's ability to train whilst Sheikh Mohammed was let off scot-free regards one of his retained trainers doping horses. If the same doping event had happened recently eg after the kidnapping/imprisonment of his two daughters, Princess Shamsa and Latifa and the abuse and threats against his former wife Princess Haya a different result would probably be the result.

Ban Elliot at racecourses, not his horses.
Report Hibore March 1, 2021 4:22 PM GMT
My cash out on Envoi is now suspended and has been all day. Not much more than 50/50 IMO.
Report impossible123 March 1, 2021 4:29 PM GMT
No worries. The idiots here have ages ago eg French Derby winner with Envoi Allen and one other. However, the nrnb with a winner are still ok. Also, no takers for Energumene at 10.5 here in The Marsh either.
Report jimnast March 1, 2021 4:31 PM GMT
hibore other than injury or transport strike envoi allen will be at cheltenham.
Report FOYLESWAR March 1, 2021 4:42 PM GMT
yeah or dodgy feed !^^
Report jimnast March 1, 2021 4:49 PM GMT
yep that as well foyles Devil
Report jimnast March 1, 2021 4:50 PM GMT
i would be surprised if she has access to the feed
Report Bentring March 1, 2021 11:46 PM GMT
Hibore cash out?offer still stands (DO U NEED A SUB)lol
Report HistoricWarwick March 4, 2021 10:43 AM GMT
I understand that there is value to be had antepost but, I don't place my bets until about a minute before the off as there is so much else to consider that can affect the value - the ground & watering, temperament, sweating, pulling on the way to post, market.

Reminds me of when I met the wife..
Report irishone March 4, 2021 3:15 PM GMT
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Report Hibore March 4, 2021 3:44 PM GMT
No need to worry Benny boy. Cash out is back on my Envoi bets.

Thanks for the offer though.
Report irishone March 4, 2021 6:01 PM GMT
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Report Bentring March 4, 2021 6:50 PM GMT
Would love an account with this facility.
Whether I'd use it a different matter.
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