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2021 gold cup.............your twisting ................
2021 gold cup.............your twisting ................
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Walsh said afterwards he’ll go up in trip foyles you can still dream
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cheers harry missed the race ,but by all accounts you couldnt see much anyway ! happy with the finishing position .
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Talked me into a small e/w wager at 66 Foyles.
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yeah budd as said 66 too big for a horse that loves chelt ,he has class form at the festival obv we dont know if he will stay but couldnt be in better hands !
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harry, Sageform of course
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Yeah I found you...shame weekend thought I may of lead the free comp but one tailed and Altior didn’t run...unless I can get the welsh national winner and king George winner which is unlikely looks like I’ll be tailed in the outright big one I’m afraid to far back I’m afraid
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Well he gave it a right go did Melon, at one stage i was thinking he was going to win.
I think if he were held up a tad more he would have gone very close. Maybe he dont stay well enough for a Gold Cup, but its not definite to me, and would not be surprised if he turned up in it. Shorter than 66 now. |
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I can fully understand horse racing is form and opinion based nevertheless, might I ask why posters yet repeatedly give chance after chance to horses that had already failed to deliver regularly? The result of the Savills Chase was fortuitous for A Plus Tard and deservedly so given the predicament of the 2 market leaders and a couple of others with merit eg Minella Indo, Delta Work, Presenting Percy and Samcro.
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Which horses you refer to?
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You quote Al Boom champ both still to run and santini who has and you question others read what you've written and get back with reasoning
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ABP has done it, and will be following the same route as last season; Santini ran a stonker last year given his troubled prep; Champ (admittedly present no a concern) on his potential and ability to quicken impressively with speed after the last up the Cheltenham hill.
In a nutshell ABP/S/C: reigning champion; runner-up despite a troubled prep; potential after his very unlikely victory in the RSA. |
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Yes he has done it and is declared the stonker followed by stinker and another we don't know where or when it will turn up and you question others thinking which you don't do you rely on faith and go to war with the Champ (and 2 English others) when 5 of last 7 winners have been Irish Trained,the Savills may have a bearing or not but the race was run and those that performed well in it could have a say in the Gold Cup and poster's will talk about this as the race was run in a good pace and evidence ie there unlike giving more chances to a horse that is nothing like last season and one who hasn't ran and I will add didn't look like a gold cup winner as how he gets from one side to the other but then again last 2 winners have been like that so you never know,but I thought the 2nd and 3rd in the RSA we're the horses to take from the race as they raced each other from way before they should have (think long run and sir des champs gold cup I know )and we're picked up.
I know others will have their outlook on it but that's how I see it |
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Welcome to the forum Bentring. I’m not the punctuation police but the odd comma and full stop helps to read
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If anyone fancies Champ than they should really fancy Minella Indo, very little between them in the novice RSA, especially as we have actually seen MI this season and hes a better jumper than Champ, from what i have seen.
APT and to a lesser extent Melon have imo earned the right to line up, and APT has won a recognised race in relation to a fair few Gold Cups in the past. I would include Kemboy but he dont seem to like the Gold Cup. I will include Frodon though....if he jumps like he can throughout the race and can get home, which after winning the KG, to me is the only big question remaining See absolutely nowt wrong with anyone mentioning any of these running big races in the Gold Cup, and if the Tizzards sort themselves out you can add LIT, and Native River who may well have a say in how the race is run. |
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Must,book,those,night,classes
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O/T
Can someone help with present Covid stay-at-home in Tier 4? Has it been extended? If so, how long for? Bojo nor Health Sec not forthcoming on that or I seem to have missed it. |
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Having watched King George again the winner was good,santini's jockey tried to do the right thing but Frodon was too quick away from the fence for him to keep it up.
In the end santini performance was OK,would I back it he'll no but then again I haven't bet anything yet. The thing that bugs me is the retirement of Ruby and Geraghty and Townend is a fantastic jockey but can only ride one. The rest in England are a much of a muchness and that only leaves Rachel. Robert Power as great a jockey that he is the Tizard stable could do with a few winner's and possibly a new horse as it's more lost in space. |
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Sorry new tablet here,well I will keep my powder dry until it's more clearer but with those two I mentioned it was comforting when they we're riding obviously not just in this race.
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Ironic that both those two jockeys got regularly told to retire on these forums, now we see what we're missing.
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Geraghty? Are you for real. Walsh is ok. The flipside is his mounts did not represent value; last hurdle/fence calamity occurring too often for my liking.
Townend is no Walsh. Bring back Francome; Rachel and Bryony have brains, and horses run for them. |
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Covid is a word you mentioned,is memory loss a symptom
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Remember those imortal words Hibore 'Welcome to the Forum Bentring' Remember that post Dec 30th 2020 5:04 PM GMT lol
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Hi bore sees himself as the leader of the forum
When he wrote ...... "We had a good go last year with 12/1 Santini and 14/1 Lostintranslation." ..... to try and cover up the fact he put up four in the race... And just about covered his stake.That was a giveaway.? There has then been pathetic appeals to his inbetweener "friends" on here to help him out. The allegiance to poison nicky this year , and his pathetic utterings about what he had on champ and santini were proved to be lies. Then he follows up a disastrous Year with an aftertimed "i had a winning patent". Scum, not worth talking to. |
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Not anymore Duffy
Him and that other pollutant Impossible Demonstrate on here Day after day That they are so far up their own backsides.... Unfortunately.... And there is no light at the end of that tunnel |
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Bentring 21 Mar 21 02:51
Remember those imortal words Hibore 'Welcome to the Forum Bentring' Remember that post Dec 30th 2020 5:04 PM GMT lol Heard you were knocking on doors offering to trim hedges or cut grass. Thought you might be a useful contact on here. Immortal has two M’s by the way. |
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genuinly hope this forum doesn't become toxic.
I come on these to talk horse racing. People back winners,people back losers. Life goes on. |
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Just the normal mix of characters and egos you'd expect to get when a large group of mainly men get together in an environment where opinions are given.
Bound to get heated debates/rucks. All par for the course. |
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Having a multi forum troll who argues with 95% of the posters unless they agree with his anti-British or anti-Henderson crap doesn’t help. Not many call him out when he spouts his lies and racism either.
If you don’t want this place to descend into an even more toxic environment then you need to tell him to concentrate on horses rather than trying to belittle people. I’ll ignore him going forward unless he starts up again. Otherwise I’m afraid things will stay the same for another year. |
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Hibore you're at it again,you welcomed me to the forum(is it your forum)and then belittled my grammar,you then call on other's to round up on a forum poster,then you belittle me again with a crass remark about calling on people's doors I assume this was a racist remark aimed at an ethnic minority group.
I posted an opinion at the time on what I thought,it was written the best and fastest way I could have done,opinions can change they often do as more information is gathered but you and one other kept on about champ and santini and imo that was strange as the evidence was there for santini that he'd probably gone at the game(course form all one could cling to)apart for one run at Cheltenham but I would like more recent evidence that that. I didn't back Minello apart from a lucky with 3 nr's as I don't like to tie up money ante post and with it's last 2 runs I let it run I did do Allaho though and can spell pu x2 |
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Bentring, you belittle every thing I’ve posted in the last 3 months to play up to your best mate Irishone. Don’t act the innocent or I’ll post 20+ unprovoked responses to my comments.
My recommendation about your 200 words without a comma or full stop on your first post wasn’t malicious if you look at it again and if you took that way I apologise. If you call me an idiot fancying this horse or that horse I’m going to retaliate...am I not allowed an opinion ? Is there an ethnic minority group that cuts grass ? You’ve lost me there...iI was giving you some pocket money jokingly as you lived with your mum. I’m willing to call an end to this bickering as I’m getting fed up with it. It seems we got off on the wrong foot and let’s start fresh this year ? Agree ? |
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Absolutely spot on bentring
Also the point about a forum Is you come on here to give opinions About horses and betting on them...as many have said .....but IF you start telling lies and aftertiming Then when you get caught out.... ....you start belittling people who you dont know from adam Making unfounded remarks about their ethnicity, lifestyle or unfunny banter then YES this forum will turn toxic. |
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Back to racing Budd
Paul Townend went through a long period in Rubys shadow and deservedly has come through it. There was a period when he would drive you mad seemingly looking for gaps that weren't there from in behind horses or changing his hands before the last, unsettling the horse and as a consequence losing the race. I dont know if you watched Irish racing a lot at that time but he was unpopular with the everyday betting shop punter and was starting to get a bit of a reputation as a blunderer. Whatever happened prior to Ruby's departure, whether it was that he had learnt from Willie or Ruby, or was getting better sits or literally maturing as an individual he has amazingly turned the corner, fair play to him and long may it continue. A thoroughly nice fellah as well. |
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as duffy said its a forum and you are going to get different characters egos with differing opinions .some will drive others mad, some will get along fine ,some take things /comments personaly some are easy going and ignore ,banter is fine the irish /english rivalry thing is starting to get boring now now ,yes the irish horses and trainers are in a different league at the moment its plain to see we are all aware of it but to be honest if i have backed a horse or fancy one, what country or what religion /gender race of the connections dont influence my thinking one bit.the main function of this forum should be the discussion of horses /races /fancies and the chelt festival and all that goes with it . we will get the odd spat here and there its expected .
everyone has opinions and for some its hard to see past their pocket ,hopefully irish /bentring /and hibore can end this crap now and we can get back to what the forum should be about before everyone gets the hump with looking in and posting and fooks off to another site. |
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Covert racism is a form of racial discrimination that is disguised and subtle, rather than public or obvious.
Regular jibes about Irish trainers on here. Regular jibes about Irish lifestyles on here. Regular jibes about Irish gambles on here. Two main protagonists Hibore and Impossible. Reported to moderators loads of times. Nothing done. So they get it back. Then start screaming....... |