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irishone
13 Oct 20 07:44
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Thought the codd over rode that dark spark at kilbeggan today
Undulating r h track , cheltenham test
Let him know who was boss
heard he got one lined up for J P
might change
His mind given the way that took off

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By:
Paterson92
When: 13 Oct 20 18:31
Seems that word has been out for a while now hence why he’s prominent in the ante post market, but SIR GERHARD is the talking horse for the Champion Bumper already. Trained by Gordon Elliott and owned by Cheveley Park, who bought him with a view to winning the race 3 years in a row.
By:
irishone
When: 25 Oct 20 17:55
Not many would have been too interested in the last at Galway this evening but the conditions were awful. The bumper was run in a full pelt galway storm. The winner was one of Willies, very smart accelerated away top of the hill in a matter of strides. Ideal Cheltenham bumper horse , see what happens now, if willie puts him away for the winter that will be the mullins bumper horse for the festival. If you owned the horse I guess your view might be a little different .
By:
SeeMoreBusiness
When: 05 Dec 20 23:44
rare I jump in this early but I have backed Kilcruit at 20/1 for this. Interesting he has moved to WM from TM.Form of the first bumper is ok. He hacked up today on a course I love for grooming good Cheltenham candidates. Worth ago I think
By:
ambush
When: 02 Jan 21 21:47
ginto runs tomorrow.cost the morans 470.i could see it sharing favouritism tomorow evening if its impressive. the way the market is going at the moment the chelt bumper could be run in cullentra
By:
Hibore
When: 03 Jan 21 09:08
Very interesting Ambush. Worth a pop at 20/1 on sports book. There is £700 waiting to be matched on exchange at 15.5 which is promising.
By:
GAZO
When: 03 Jan 21 09:25
possibly because it was tipped up in the racing post
By:
Hibore
When: 03 Jan 21 14:03
Backed into 14/1 now and plenty of money for him for today as well.
By:
Bentring
When: 03 Jan 21 15:58
Mari wilson not what you wanted
By:
Hibore
When: 03 Jan 21 16:04
Not for £470k Laugh
By:
paulo47
When: 03 Jan 21 17:52
Not a disaster , had a bit of 40s .
By:
irishone
When: 16 Jan 21 06:50
Galway bumper winner Grangee , referred to above turns up for Willie Mullins at Market Rasen today, its been punted in recent weeks for the bumper from 40s down to 20s on BF . 33\1 with the books. Sending it to run in UK as he did with PANIC ATTACK last year, changed hands shortly afterwards and flopped since. Strange when owners have to pay 19% v a t on valueof horse.coming over after brexit, plus staff will have to isolate for ten days..... Something smells
By:
cryoftruth
When: 16 Jan 21 15:57
Eileendover looks different gravy to me. 10/1 with a run AFTER today’s astonishing performance was utter madness, shame betfair sports book would only take a measly tenner.
By:
Hibore
When: 16 Jan 21 16:10
Sounds very unlikely she will run. She could be a useful tool on the flat
By:
impossible123
When: 16 Jan 21 16:55
Nrnb is the way forward. Who knows...if her new owner (if sold to JP for £500k or more) runs her here. But, she's undoubtedly very good.
By:
FOYLESWAR
When: 16 Jan 21 17:09
the itv team are hyping the fook out of it ,youd think it was frankle !
By:
FOYLESWAR
When: 16 Jan 21 17:10
frankel
By:
Hibore
When: 16 Jan 21 17:13
I wouldn’t be running at Cheltenham if she was mine. £40k race around Newbury in May against 5 opponents much more like it.
By:
impossible123
When: 16 Jan 21 18:00
I'd not sell her, breed from her yes given her age. Unless an offer of £1m, and that will put right so many issues at her stable and more. If she jumps hurdles and/or fences with aplomb she'd be a serious Champion Hurdle and/or Gold Cup contender receiving 7lbs from the boys.
By:
Hibore
When: 16 Jan 21 18:09
Doubt you’ll ever see her run in a NH race again. No chance going hurdling with that ability.
The flat is her future Imp.
By:
impossible123
When: 16 Jan 21 18:29
You'd know better than me 'Hibore'. I only have an interest in horse racing in my leisure. And, even then mainly the good ones. I've to admit I'm an elitist. Also, I can just about tell the difference between a horse and a pony!
By:
know all
When: 16 Jan 21 18:46
very impressive today Eileendover 7/1 with a run sportsbook there is a max stake but just bet it at lower stakes until it says no, non runner no bet. you only get one chance for a bumper winner at cheltenham especially a small stable like that if that was trained by mullins would be 2/1, the great frankel should have run in the derby i got 100/1 thinking its to good to miss, so i got the last one wrong which is why nrnb is great,
By:
Hibore
When: 16 Jan 21 20:23
I’m not trying to be clever. The horse will be more lucrative in the flat sphere rather than staying in bumpers and hurdles.
The bumper is worth £30 or £40k not sure. It can bottom a horse so why risk it.
I think she would win if she ran but money and longer term goals should be taken into account.

We can always claim we had the best horse never ran whatever the result Cool
By:
Autocue
When: 16 Jan 21 21:10
Agreed. She’s a flat-bred daughter of a high-class miler and granddaughter of an Oaks winner with a July Cup winner in the pedigree. It’s remarkable she can stroll through 2 miles on heavy then show a turn of foot. NH fans are lucky to have seen her in bumpers. I don’t see her running at Cheltenham. The Aintree mare’s bumper could be on the agenda then top flat tracks. One to look forward to and a credit to the owners/trainer/breeder.
By:
impossible123
When: 17 Jan 21 13:54
Eileendover is well bred. Any price for Eileendover in the Long Distance Cup or Ascot Gold Cup given Stradivarius could be retired or on the decline?
By:
Bentring
When: 17 Jan 21 14:00
What are you smoking?
By:
impossible123
When: 17 Jan 21 14:11
If only. I think she'd be a freak. According to Horse Pedigree her Dosage Index is 1.67 - not even likely to stay 12f. And, she romped home over 15f on heavy ground. I'm surprised, given her breeding, she's not running on the Flat. If connections have a rethink I'd back her for one of the staying races eg Yorkshire Cup, etc, if she's entered.
By:
irishone
When: 17 Jan 21 16:40
What are you injecting ?
By:
cryoftruth
When: 18 Jan 21 09:22
It’s difficult to equate NHflat race form to flat proper form. Not many seem to do both.

Clever Cookie was a decent NH flat racer and was unbeaten in 2 such races getting a RPR of 109. His best ever flat proper RPR was 117.

Eileendover certainly looks as good as Clever Cookie and got a RPR of 112 for her amazing run on Saturday.

My best guess is that she is probably capable of a flat race rating of at least 112 and maybe as high as 120. This obviously makes the Cheltenham bumper a real possibility. She is unproven on decent going though and does seem to love soft or heavy going.

In terms of her potential for the flat proper, she would be a really interesting contender in a soft ground Yorkshire Cup.
By:
clayfield1
When: 18 Jan 21 11:35
cryoftruth, I know not many go from n/h flat to proper flat races. But what about Collier Hill for Alan Swinbank.
By:
Saritamer
When: 18 Jan 21 21:37
I remember Mellottie trained by Mary Reveley in the early 90's. His first 2 or 3 wins were in NH flat races and then went on to run 2nd in the Cambridgeshire before winning it the following year - pretty unusual to say the least
By:
Andymca
When: 19 Jan 21 11:02
Eileendover to miss Cheltenham  https://www.sportinglife.com/racing/news/eileendover-to-miss-cheltenham/188425
By:
The_LUFCwaffe
When: 19 Jan 21 12:41
A sensible move by Pam Sly. This is a 4yo, and the Cheltenham Bumper can knock the stuffing out of young horses. Cue Card was a bit of an exception.

The Aintree options are more suitable.
By:
irishone
When: 19 Jan 21 15:01
Weld won it a few years back with decent flat horse
By:
Autocue
When: 19 Jan 21 18:33
They’ll want to breed from her. The Cheltenham bumper is a stepping stone for future hurdlers and chasers and this horse won’t be jumping so I can understand why they don’t feel the need for it on the CV. The Aintree mares race as a prep for a flat campaign, bringing hope for more black type, seems sensible.
By:
muse
When: 19 Jan 21 20:20
I made my notes on the race before I saw Pam Sly's interview.  I doubt the suitabilty both of the course, and, chiefly, of the hurly burly. I have no idea why they would go to Cheltenham.
By:
The_LUFCwaffe
When: 28 Jan 21 10:55
Any reason Noble **** doesn't show up on the markets anywhere??

Not going?
Not qualified?
By:
duffy
When: 29 Jan 21 16:38
Three Stripe Life impressed me just then, took the 33's immediately after the race.
By:
Andymca
When: 29 Jan 21 16:53
You must have been quick, 20s best price now and 16s NRNB
By:
duffy
When: 29 Jan 21 16:57
I was
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