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champion hurdle
sharjah 12/1 koral
not so sleepy e/w 33/1 375,pp.
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Report irishone January 11, 2022 5:21 PM GMT
Ashleigh would you be kind enough
To provide details
Of everything he has evet tipped up at cheltenham
Because i guarentee you
He is not profitable
Report brandyontherocks January 11, 2022 5:23 PM GMT
You can't judge a tipster on his Cheltenham bets alone. He gives tips out all year round.
Report irishone January 11, 2022 5:28 PM GMT
Ah thats o k then

Basically instead of putting on his shoes , going down the bookies and taking money from them he prefers wordsmithing.

No tax, no insurance , just plain cash readily available for him at the top of the road, but for some reason he gets more enjoyment out of writing claptrap about horses.

Who in their right monds cannot see through this ?
Report irishone January 11, 2022 5:29 PM GMT
*minds even ExcitedLaugh
Report brandyontherocks January 11, 2022 5:45 PM GMT
There have always been, always be tipsters. Papers need them.
Casual Saturday punters love it.

If you were a pro punter and a paper offered you a guaranteed income doing what you are already doing on top of the profit you make anyway, you'd be made to turn it down.
Report irishone January 11, 2022 5:56 PM GMT

He wouldn't be a pro punter once he took up that offer.

So the incentive isnt there anymore.

Once you take away the hunger , no point in hunting.
Report irishone January 11, 2022 6:07 PM GMT
I shared a train ride with a sporting press tipster once, he is still dashing around the paddocks for the post, even been on here a few times.....

Between Galway and Dublin he enlightened me on every massive gamble he had engineered and the huge bets he had on DW s melbourne cup winner months before. Upon arriving at Ceannt , (which in the circumstances was very appropriate) i realised he was nothing but a sad aftertimer eeking a living out of the generousity of coolmore and sticking a recording device up the nose of whoever he could at the track.
Report irishone January 11, 2022 6:23 PM GMT

13 Mar 20 19:20

over the 4 days, 19 selections and NO WINNERS.


19 Mar 21 18:38

final total 2 winners from 22 selections.
Report ashleigh January 11, 2022 6:53 PM GMT
don't keep records of ts selections. claims his ante-post record for profit on investment is.
2019 278%
2020 83%
2021 67%
assume that's for all flat and jumps races, as it sure isn't for cheltenham.
Report brandyontherocks January 11, 2022 9:07 PM GMT
Cheltenham is 4 days of the year. If you follow someone who isn't backing the horse he thinks will necessarily win the you have to follow him for 12 months. If thats your thing.
Report brandyontherocks January 11, 2022 9:39 PM GMT
Quilixios @ 25/1 tomorrow's tip.
Report ashleigh January 12, 2022 7:42 AM GMT
Ts on the champion hurdle.

Quilixios e/w 25/1. (Price for information only).
Report differentdrum January 12, 2022 3:32 PM GMT
Does he get the option of no bet? I know a few have come out of the Triumph and ran well subsequently, but Quilixios himself has ran three times since, and been beaten three times since. The form looks light years away from winning a Champion Hurdle. With any each-way bet you have to have some hope that the horse can actually win.
Report impossible123 January 12, 2022 9:12 PM GMT
E/W could also mean losing double. The Champion Hurdle is only 3 places too.
Report Hibore January 12, 2022 9:16 PM GMT
Nube Negra pricewise 14/1 ew Champion Chase.
Report ashleigh January 13, 2022 7:26 AM GMT
Ts on the champion chase
Nube negra e/w  14/1.   (Price for information only)
Report irishone January 14, 2022 5:57 AM GMT
Why put it up

2 winners in 41 selections over the last two cheltenhamd merit that

desperation lads .....there were far better tipsters on here !
Report Ramruma January 17, 2022 9:28 PM GMT
Stayers Hurdle: Flooring Porter 6/1
Report ashleigh January 18, 2022 7:17 AM GMT
Ts on the stayers hurdle

Flooring porter 6/1.    (Price for information only)
Report irishone January 19, 2022 5:12 AM GMT
Oh dear !
Report ashleigh January 19, 2022 7:22 AM GMT
Ts on the arkle

Blue lord 5/1
Third time lucki 20/1. 
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Report irishone January 19, 2022 8:36 AM GMT
The shadow jumpers ?
Report differentdrum January 25, 2022 8:40 PM GMT
Presumably, he has put up Sir Gerhard for the Supreme. Given that non runner no bet hasn't kicked in this looks a very risky bet. Perhaps the sheep should have stayed in the pen. The logical move would be to go Ballymore. It looks the weaker race, trip shouldn't be an issue, and Mullins has nothing obvious for the race. He isn't a trainer who usually wastes bullets.
Report Ramruma January 25, 2022 9:13 PM GMT
Yes, Sir Gerhard for the Supreme. Segal addresses this point directly, He acknowledges many think Sir Gerhard will go to the Ballymore but Segal thinks he will run in the Supreme.

(Segal is not quite alone in this. Separately, Ruby Walsh on the Paddy Power podcast has also said Sir Gerhard looks like a solid 2-miler.)
Report differentdrum January 25, 2022 11:13 PM GMT
Ruby Walsh, the man for whom no dollop of salt is big enough.

Imagine if he was still riding he would be moving mountains to make sure Sir Gerhard runs in the Ballymore. He would be saying he was completely outpaced by Kilcruit and needs a trip.

Let's face it he should have a pretty good idea where all the Mullins horses are going, but does he relay that information? Not likely, he only pipes up to contradict popular opinion. Isn't Galopin Des Champs his other party piece this year? How quickly he has forgotten that when he was riding it was all about the easiest opportunity.

He didn't care two hoots about punters when he was riding, and still doesn't.
Report duffy January 26, 2022 5:23 AM GMT
Yep, Walsh said that he thinks he has plenty of speed, he cites the Bumper where he points out that many concentrated on the finish where he came back somewhat to Kilcruit, but he suggested that he was entitled to tire after an injection of pace coming down the hill won the race.

He has a point in that regard, they were all in a bunch one minute and by the time they turned in were strung out like washing.
Report ashleigh January 26, 2022 7:38 AM GMT
Ts on the supreme novice

Sir gerhard  7/1.     (Price for information only).
Report differentdrum January 26, 2022 11:29 AM GMT
I think most people were of the opinion that Blackmore nicked the Festival Bumper. What was Walsh's explanation for Punchestown, and the fact Kilcruit has subsequently done nothing for the form. In an average year it might be worth a crack at the Supreme, but this year is it worth running for fourth place when the Ballymore looks a far easier option?
Report Ramruma January 26, 2022 11:34 AM GMT
Yes, the whole Sir Gerhard thing depends on second-guessing Willie Mullins on who will run in the Supreme and who in the Ballymore. However, on that note, Segal does say:-

Dysart Dynamo is clearly hugely talented too and given he was quite keen at Punchestown last time, he could easily be the Mullins Supreme horse.

However, he comes into the Constitution Hill category of having beaten much lesser horses on bad ground and the fact that he started his career over two and a quarter miles suggests to me that he should have no problems over the Ballymore trip. It certainly wouldn't surprise me if that was the direction he took.
Report differentdrum January 26, 2022 1:25 PM GMT
That completely ignores Dysart Dynamo's run style to go forward, and race freely. He also has pedigree which would suggest a shorter trip as well. I think the fact he started over longer trip is pretty irrelevant. Things have moved on quite a bit since then.

What are the top horses that Sir Gerhard has beaten? I would say the other three have better form, whatever ground they achieved it on.

It strikes as a very poor case, the sort it might just be worth making for a 33/1 shot.
Report ENGLANDBARNES1 January 26, 2022 6:40 PM GMT
Dysart dynamo has a half brother that was 3rd in this years Welsh National so not exactly pedigree for two miles.
Report differentdrum January 26, 2022 10:10 PM GMT
I would be interested to know the name of that horse as his half sister, Dysart Diamond, has actually disappointed each time she has raced beyond 2m2f.

Interesting that despite their man, Ruby Walsh, putting up Sir Gerhard for the Supreme, they were quite happy to be longest price. Even they don't seem to believe him.
Report Ramruma January 27, 2022 12:12 AM GMT
Has Ruby put up Sir Gerhard for the Supreme? He's said he thinks SG is a 2-miler but that is not quite the same thing.

If you are that convinced and/or bothered then maybe do an e/w double with DD and SG in the two novice races.
Report ENGLANDBARNES1 January 27, 2022 10:03 AM GMT
Hi DD the half brother is Truckers Lodge, trained by Nicholls.
They are both by Westerner, with different dams, but both dams were by Accordian.
Captain cutter who died as a 7 yo is also linked in the same way and had won up to 2m5 on good to soft and heavy when trained by Henderson.
The other notable horse is Pipe’s Eamon An Cnoic who’s best racing post rating came when winning a 2m 4 race on heavy.

It looks like the Ballymore would be perfect on pedigree, and he will be best with cut.
It’s also worth noting that most supreme horses step up to 3 miles in time including Champagne fever also trained by Willie so nothing wrong with 2m at this stage, but it’s just worth keeping this in mind.
Supreme is for stayers, Ballymore for quicker champion hurdle types weirdly, like Faugheen.
Report differentdrum January 27, 2022 12:21 PM GMT

Tread carefully.

To be considered a half brother you need to have the same dam. Truckers Lodge is the same cross, but might well have more stamina in his pedigree through the female line. I doubt that Dysart Dynamo will go anywhere near the Ballymore for the reasons given, but clearly not that long to go before we find out.
Report ENGLANDBARNES1 January 28, 2022 2:12 PM GMT
That’s strange DD.

I work in the same building as a guy that goes around bragging he has 7 kids by 5 different mums.
I think he’d be heartbroken if you told him they were not half brothers and sisters because it only counts if they have the same mother!

For obvious reasons, I go out of my way to avoid him as much as possible:)
Report brandyontherocks January 28, 2022 2:18 PM GMT
Imagine how many half brothers there would be by Galileo if you went on that theory Barnes.

It's through the dam.
Report duffy January 28, 2022 3:05 PM GMT
I knew a guy that was sat round his kitchen table with his 5 sons and finally noticed that one looked different to the rest, when he quizzed his Mrs on it she told him it was because that son was hisShockedWink
Report Ramruma January 28, 2022 4:44 PM GMT
In horseracing half-siblings have the same dam. Geneticists might disagree but that is the established terminology of the horsey business.

Because sires are, well, studs, they might have hundreds of runners from whom to draw conclusions. They'd probably be more reliable conclusions than guessing on the basis of just two or three (maternal) half-brothers or sisters.

But in racing, we look at the dam, partly because the sire is thought to be a known constant.
Report ENGLANDBARNES1 January 29, 2022 1:34 AM GMT
Every days a school day ;)
Report ashleigh February 2, 2022 7:33 AM GMT
Ts on the brown advisory novice chase

Fury road 8/1 nrnb  (price for information only)
Report irishone February 2, 2022 9:41 AM GMT
Sad clueless lemmings
Report ENGLANDBARNES1 February 3, 2022 1:52 AM GMT
I’d agree with regards to following high profile tipsters normally but Fury Road went from hating Leopardstown to winning over Christmas.
To me, that shows a big improvement from his hurdle form and looks a big danger.
The only worry is if the cheek pieces had the desired affect, but will they third time now that the horse is used to them?
Report cobra sam February 3, 2022 7:21 AM GMT
dont know what your reffering to Irish with the lemmings comment...if u dont like sir Tom dont bother opening the thread....I feel for Tom atm hes forced to make selections in these races and clearly he not that keen
Report cobra sam February 3, 2022 7:23 AM GMT
or if its a refferal to Fury rd in the rsa ,,please share your info Irish? much appreciated
Report ashleigh February 3, 2022 7:25 AM GMT
Ts on the ballymore novice

Journey with me 6/1 nrnb. (Price for information only)
Report ashleigh February 9, 2022 7:38 AM GMT
Ts on the truimph hurdle

Doctor parnassus  16/1. Nrnb.  (Prices for information only)
Report irishone February 9, 2022 7:44 AM GMT
You sad sad fecker
Report cobra sam February 9, 2022 10:29 AM GMT
yes you are,,and getting  boring as well...penis of the forum award a given
Report irishone February 9, 2022 1:23 PM GMT
Sam ffs you could do better than him ld
If he was any good why does he need to prove himself to us ?
Report cobra sam February 9, 2022 2:20 PM GMT
Irish,you are without doubt very knowledgable ,connected and privvy to stuff the average forumite isnt,when your texting your stuff i always take note,,,,Your downside is you like to provoke..incite,,and talk down to people.ive no idea why u have that in you...Tom Segal inmo is the best racing man in the public eye and his tips on here deserve there place,no doubt....If you think hes a **** thats fine .but please dont insult Ash who has been sharing his stuff dilligently for years,...Better you dont get involved in the thread at all....
Report ashleigh February 9, 2022 5:54 PM GMT
irishone, don't shoot the messenger, if you don't like TS selections just lay them, you will win some, but lose some.Grin
Report irishone February 9, 2022 6:54 PM GMT
Cheers sam
The whole concept is fractured
Ash is TS isnt he !

The day TS puts up his time stamped betting slips
Will be the day I will start looking
Report Bentring February 9, 2022 10:02 PM GMT
I agree with betting slips,he put 1 up for PP GC ridden by Tabitha for Josh Gifford and was available 70/80 for small £'s at 17.50pm on the Friday and he wasn't backing it.
I know as I wanted to  bet it but waited and next day was surprised to see he'd tipped it sophy not sweep up and lay back,only saying like.
Report Bentring February 9, 2022 10:03 PM GMT
(So why)
Report brandyontherocks February 10, 2022 5:22 AM GMT
Don't get your point Ben
Report ashleigh February 10, 2022 7:24 AM GMT
Ts on the ryanair
Conflated 12/1. Nrnb
Franco de Port  e/w  50/1. Nrnb

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Report irishone February 10, 2022 8:07 AM GMT
The fact you cant see what he is at
Is the problem
He backs a big outsider at 80\1 today
It goes in the paper tomorrow
A day later ashleigh and his pals get on
Price shortens naturally
TS lays off
Job done
Report irishone February 10, 2022 8:09 AM GMT
*pals ....should have said lemmings
Report Hibore February 10, 2022 8:28 AM GMT
That must also apply to Upping the ante with Lynch and Jennings ?
Report Ramruma February 10, 2022 9:26 AM GMT
There is no evidence that Segal is front-running Pricewise selections, and some indirect evidence that he is not. His predecessor complained he had to compete with the masses to get prices in the morning, and there have been no whistleblowers from amongst the satchel-swingers.
Report Bentring February 11, 2022 2:05 PM GMT
Thanks Irish 1 for clearing this up only seeing this now,how on earth it needed cleared up is beyond me
Report cobra sam February 11, 2022 2:52 PM GMT
of course he gets the best prices and carves em up on the exchange...only because hes been given that job as hes good at it,,,whoever had the job would do the same...and as i said imo he deserves his thread on here....tho i remember he went 0-35 at royal ascot one year,,,then stuck up a 50-1 winner in the big hcap at the days the bookies used to honour the overnight prices for a short time in the shops...
Report Bentring February 11, 2022 4:03 PM GMT
Of course he gets the best prices exchange the post above highlighted he wasn't using his vacuum HTH
Report cobra sam February 11, 2022 4:13 PM GMT
2020 bent,if your reffering to the above
Report ashleigh February 17, 2022 7:04 AM GMT
Ts on the mares races

Mares hurdle. Burning victory 10/1.

Mares novices hurdle. Party central. 8/1 

No selection for the mares chase

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Report ashleigh February 23, 2022 12:02 PM GMT
ts on the albert bartlett

falcon eight 20/1 nrnb
shantreusse 14/1  nrnb
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Report ashleigh February 24, 2022 8:05 AM GMT
Ts on the national hunt chase.

Vanillier  6/1 nrnb
Pats fancy 18/1 nrnb.

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Report ashleigh March 2, 2022 7:15 AM GMT
Ts on the handicap hurdles

County hurdle I like to move it  14/1. Nrnb

Coral cup  drop the anchor 14/1. Nrnb 

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Report ashleigh March 3, 2022 7:30 AM GMT
Ts on the handicap chases

Grand annual   Amarillo sky. 12/1  nrnb

Plate hcp chase.  The glancing queen.  12/1. Nrnb

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Report sageform March 3, 2022 8:52 PM GMT
Coral Cup short list for me: Christopher Wood, McFabulous, Guard Your Dreams. All have very high speed figures.
Report ashleigh March 8, 2022 6:33 PM GMT
20 selections in 17 races, put them all on one post.

protektorat gold cup 14/1
quillxios champion hurdle e/w 25/1  nrnb
nube negra champion chase  e/w 14/1
flooring porter  stayers hurdle 6/1
blue lord arkle 5/1
third time lucki  arkle 20/1
sir gerhad  supreme  7/1
fury road  brown advisory chase 8/1 nrnb
journey with me  ballymore  6/1  nrnb
doctor parnassus  truimph  16/1  nrnb
conflated  ryanair 12/1  nrnb
franco de port  ryanair  e/w 50/1 nrnb 
burning victory  close brothers mares hurdle  10/1 
party central  mares novice  8/1
falcon eight  albert bartlett  20/1  nrnb
shantreusse  albert bartlett  14/1  nrnb
i like to move it  county hurdle  14/1  nrnb
drop the anchor  coral cup  14/1  nrnb
amarillo sky  grand annual  12/1  nrnb
the glancing queen  plate hcp chase  12/1  nrnb
Report irishone March 9, 2022 5:06 AM GMT
Wheres the other eleven ?
Report ashleigh March 15, 2022 8:04 AM GMT
Report Ramruma March 15, 2022 11:24 AM GMT
What that list and those prices show is that by and large, antepost betting is not worth the form study. It's not just Pricewise, it is all the pundits who commit to providing selections on a schedule.
Report strontium March 15, 2022 11:33 AM GMT
You make a good point Ramruma - TS has to pick a selection for a given race and he has to do it on a particular day, because that is what his paper requires. That puts him at a huge disadvantage compared with us, because we can choose if we want to bet at all, and when we want to bet. People need to remember that when criticising his selections. Frankly, I would not have fancied putting one up for the Champion Hurdle, Ryanair or Turners this year.
Report ashleigh March 15, 2022 5:52 PM GMT
day 1, 0/7 winners, 1 placed with quilixios.
Report Manoleeds March 16, 2022 7:58 AM GMT
Quilixios placed? NR surely?
Report sageform March 16, 2022 8:54 AM GMT
Probably meant Zanahiyr who was the only 5yo who was competitive. Most people underestimate just how hard it is for a 5yo to compete with older horses at this level so he is a horse to note for next year.
Report brandyontherocks March 16, 2022 12:19 PM GMT
Definitely when he is upped in trip Sage
Report Bentring March 16, 2022 12:26 PM GMT
RP home page (online)claims he had a 10/1 winner yesterday
Report Bentring March 16, 2022 12:45 PM GMT
Tiped Brazil yesterday according to Ashleigh's thread
Report ashleigh March 16, 2022 1:26 PM GMT
Whoops got quilixios mixed up with zanahiyr.
Report ashleigh March 16, 2022 6:04 PM GMT
day 2 0/5
did not mention in the paper today the ch chase selection nube negra.Grin
Report ashleigh March 17, 2022 5:57 PM GMT
day 3  1/5  flooring porter.
Report Ramruma March 18, 2022 8:23 AM GMT
Let's take another look at @ashleigh's handy list of Sir Tom's antepost tips on the morning of Gold Cup day.

Triumph Hurdle: Doctor Parnassus tipped at 14/1 now widely available at 20/1
County Hurdle: I Like to Move It 14/1 now 12/1
Albert Bartlett: Shantreusse 14/1 now 12/1
Albert Bartlett again: Falcon Eight 20/1 now 25/1
Gold Cup: Protektorat 14/1 now 9/1

So in only one race, the Gold Cup, has he beaten the price by any significant margin. This is not to have a pop at Sir Tom but at the changed nature of antepost betting and the Racing Post's artificial schedule.
Report ashleigh March 18, 2022 6:45 PM GMT
day 4  0/5
Report ashleigh March 18, 2022 6:47 PM GMT
over the 4 days, 1 winner from 22 selections, flooring porter.
Report Bentring March 18, 2022 7:13 PM GMT
Bannbridge Brazil
Report ashleigh March 19, 2022 12:10 PM GMT
ante-post thread.
Report ImSoLuckyLucky! March 20, 2022 8:14 PM GMT
Is that a record?
1 winner
Wheres Mystic Meg

Report irishone March 20, 2022 10:13 PM GMT
A complete and utter waste of time
Born on the assumption TS could pick winners
He has provided one a year for the past three years
Only an idiot would follow his advice
...and what a sad fecker Ashleigh must be
Report cobra sam March 21, 2022 5:31 AM GMT
Ashleigh been posting his stuff for years i hope he carries on...Segal the only tipster racing man i really like to listen to,,what u have to consider with hes ante post selections is hes told a date and a race to give a selection ...i watched him days before the fezzie and he was all over Corach rambler and Brazil..anyway each to there own,,carry on Ash and ignore the irish taunts...
Report cobra sam March 21, 2022 6:31 AM GMT
just reading thru the post,,there doing long range best bets for next year,,,one stuck up Zanahiyr 25/1 for stayers which someone posted on other thread and sir Tom reckons 10-1 Lhomme press for the gold cup,take note irishone lol
Report irishone March 21, 2022 11:11 AM GMT
Wheres the figures ?
Give us a longterm look at all he has put up and the balance.

If he is so good where is the evidence ?

Theres only one piece of evidence on here , a consistent study of his Cheltenham selections and it shows  hes a fraud
Report cobra sam March 21, 2022 12:15 PM GMT
ascot as well..told ya before he 0/28 one royal meeting,,,then nailed a 50/1 winner in the pitmen derby,,,,think u love him on the quiet irish...just keeeping up the persona
Report brandyontherocks March 21, 2022 12:17 PM GMT
His record is very poor on the antepost front but like cobra says he has to put these selections up on a certain day.
Next year we should put a selection up on the same day he has to, and see if we get value and or a winner?
Report Fashion Fever March 22, 2022 3:47 PM GMT
to many favs and 2nd favs win the graded races looking for value antepost was impossible
Report irishone April 7, 2022 8:05 PM BST
Go on ashleigh give us a laugh

Did he get a winner this year LaughLaughLaugh
Report ashleigh October 17, 2022 4:39 PM BST
a 72 page pull out in the paper today on the new jumps season, TS has put up Ahorsewithnoname at 14/1 for the Mares Novice hurdle 2023, Cougar for the Triumph Hurdle at 22/1 and Corach Rambler at 33/1 for the Grand National.

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