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I'm slightly disappointed Kemboy could not beat Delta Work; he was a bit sticky at a few of his fences. Delta Work deserved to win, but I've not lost hope on Kemboy (yet) as it could be the sticky ground which was not to his liking. Maybe he'd make the running on good ground in the Gold Cup. But, Presenting Percy had every chance, but was not good enough.
Let's hope Lostintranslation brings his A-game next month, and gives us a thriller! |
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So excuses for Kemboy and none for PP. my dad used to say if you haven’t got anything kind to say don’t say anything at all so I won’t but try and read my mind
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Your dad was sensible and diplomatic, but diplomacy does not always apply to horse racing where differing opinions are aplenty, and just as valid given the right provisos; the sticky ground could be the decider with Kemboy today, I believe, as he seemed not able to jump fluently like he did at Aintree and Punchestown.
I've not given up on him, if anything, will wait a few days before backing him at 10.5 here. If Cheltenham Gold Cup is on good going he's the one for me; distance is less relevant as I believe he did not lose further ground to Delta Work today despite the ground. |
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DW finished the race stronger than Kemboy,and did extend the lead last 100 yards or so.
It points to one staying the extra distance better than the other. I think it best to know when to cease a belief you had. |
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People have questioned the prices of a number of the GC runners. Duffy i am not picking on you but remember your comment as it made me chuckle I think you described santini price as filth. Perhaps somebody/ some people take a stab at a book and maybe I can get a bet on as vast majority of the bookmakers won’t let me
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Maybe, but I'm not totally convinced that was the case today; Kemboy found jumping out of today's ground taxing, I believe. Maybe the watering (why?) did him a dis-service today, and helped Delta Work who'd prefer soft underfoot.
Santini beating BDM in that manner eg had to be rousted-up to be with the pace, BDM more effective at Haydock, and is now priced 5/1 I'd describe the price extremely skinny despite holding a 12/1 antepost ticket for him with 'sly'; only consolation is his juvenile form last season was slightly more superior than that of Delta Work. Lostintranslation (if soft) and Kemboy (if good) are the ones for me along with Santini; ABP only in small trebles; no bet on Delta Work. |
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the way Kemboy won his races last year and the
way he finished today,I believe he will get the Gold Cup trip.Who's to say Delta Work will get it,until they run no one knows. |
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Well we wont know for sure till March,thats correct.
But do you think Kemboy looked more likely to appreciate the Gold Cup trip than DW? |
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such a shame topofthegame had a setback would have been great to see how he went this season
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last years wins for Kemboy says he'll stay.
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Which races were those ?
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the ones he beat a King George winner 9L
and a Gold Cup wnr 2L and other 3m chases finishing strongly. |
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Both 6min 30 sec flat track good/soft ground. Frodon could stay one of those
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worry about time when your inside.
You've your opinion,I've got mine. |
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Penzance
Have you an answer to my question? |
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he was beat today by a better horse on the day.
I believe if they both stand up in the GC,Kemboy will finish in front of Delta Work.Last years winner the only horse I'm worried about. |
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Kemboy ran and won going away over 3m 1f on good to soft (not sticky) which gave me more than hope he'd stay the Gold Cup trip. He was entered in a 3m 5f race which he fell at the 1st fence. Personally, the main concern is the ground. I think he found jumping out of the sticky ground tough.
On an easy sticky surface I'll have Lostintanslation and Santini over Delta Work; good, only Kemboy; Native River has had his Gold Cup. |
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Ok,you don't have a direct answer to the question.
You think Kemboy will finish in front of DW at Chelt…..may I ask why,cos I may have missed something. |
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because I think he'll win the Gold Cup,
can't make it any clearer. |
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Again that's not an answer to the question.
You just think Kemboy will win the Gold Cup....ok. |
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do you think Clan Des Obeaux will appreciate
the Gold Cup trip more than Delta Work,he did trounce him earlier in the season? |
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'penzance', no worries. I believe the sticky ground was a disadvantage to Kemboy, but not Delta Work.
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At the time I was confident that was not DW true running,and subsequent runs have confirmed that for me.
No I do not think CDO will appreciate the Gold Cup trip more than DW,hes tried and failed in the race. I don't think DW will fail to appreciate the Gold Cup trip from what I have seen last two runs. I also think Kemboy ran his race today,and was primed for it. There yer go a proper answer. |
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and I believe come Cheltenham,Kemboy will
be in front of Delta Work,as already said. |
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Forget it Budd it’s like arguing with my teenage daughter. Actually rowing, she,d put up a much better case. Pathetic
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Rewind
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all about opinions and what makes a forum,be boring if everyone thought the same.
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Yeh,you said.
I was hoping for some help,some reasoning in case I have missed something. Good luck Pen. |
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Its an interesting and fascinating race Foyles,opinions are fine of course,but its good to have a discussion with reasoned thoughts on why those opinions exist.
None of us know whats going to win races at the festival,but its good if people share their thoughts in our quest to beat the bookie,can only help imo. |
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Foyles .... are you seriously saying that’s ok
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watch the races he won last year,as already posted.
He'll stay,wasn't stopping at he end of those races. GL |
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the way he jumped today he will be stopped at the first fence again
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After he has clattered into everything to his right
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Delta Work may have a new jockey,
Kennedy's broke his leg,good jock aswell. horse forum. |
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Christ the lad gets no luck
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Milton,
What price you think Santini should be then? filth might have been pushing it a bit but he's a couple points too short as he has a big enough question to answer, nice to hear I made you "chuckle", I'm just returning the compliment  |
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Native River looks in good form.
If conditions suit on the day I can see him running a big race. |
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Native River will run his usual big race, but he's definitely not as good as he was when winning this in 2018. Also, there's that small predicament about the 5 "pretenders" eg ABP, Santini, Lostintranslation, Delta Work and Kemboy. I think a place at best for native River.
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