MASTER DINO - JLT

Was just coming on to start a thread myself equine! Have taken the 16/1.

Obviously he beat very little last time, but hard not to be impressed and the way he jumped the fences at Auteuil, would suggest he shouldn’t have too many problems over here.

Not many will know more than McCaire imo so it’s telling he thinks this one should run at Cheltenham. No penalty kick tomorrow against a good horse, but if he wins I’d imagine he could be as low as 5/1 fav for this race.

Master Dino very weak today.

Gifted the Plumpton race.

Nice bet and deserves to be favourite.

Wasn’t overly impressed on first view but just watched it again and much better when consider was trying to keep up with Moore horse. I’ve gone in at 8/1 as think could be 7/2 if wins nicely at Sandown. Still needs softish conditions come March but most of mine do will do rain dance

@Hibore -- Wasn’t overly impressed on first view but just watched it again and much better when consider was trying to keep up with Moore horse.

Yes but then the eventual second seemed to blow up, flattering the winner. Look, clearly Master Dino is a good horse on the French form but what did today tell us?

I think we’ll know a lot more after Sandown but things were against him today (pace, course and ground) but won well enough. If he bolted in at Sandown then could be half the odds he is today and Jacob seemed to think he’s a class act so maybe he will.

He is nearly 7/2 in places already.

If you didn't think he was impressive name one horse who has been more impressive and is definitely heading for this race?

Far sooner be on him at 7/1 than Battleofdoyen at 7/1 for the Ballymore. He wasn't that impressive in beating a slow plodder and a pretty ordinary field for a Grade 1 race. Not close to Champ on that performance.

Not convinced he will need softish ground personally - they just get pigeon holed as soft ground horses because they come from France and have only raced previously on deep ground there.

The best Doctor Dino progeny I can see are Sharjah, La Bague Au Roi and Sceau Royal all of whom have produced their best form on decent ground.

There's obviously an element of risk until he proves it in a Grade race on decent ground...

Master Dino ran a very good trial for The JLT, but how good is the French form? His jumping got better as the race progressed; was receiving 5lbs from Knocknanuss. His present price of 6/1 against the probables Lostintranslation, Topofthegame, Defi Du Seuil and Kalashnikov (possible) is skinny to me.

A watching brief until his next outing in this country prior to Cheltenham.

The one's quoted are possibles not probables. Lost In Translation and Top Of The Game more likely RSA, Kalashnikov completely unproven at the trip and Defi Du Seuil beaten at the trip and as a result may be dropped in trip. La Bague Au Roi, the other at the top of the market likely to miss Cheltenham. There is no obvious opposition to today's winner at the head of the market.

Tizzard has moreorless confirmed Lostintranslation goes for this.

But for me he deserves to be fav in a weak enough looking race. Thought it was an excellent debut against some decent horses. The Moore horse will get them all it in the Arkle imo.

McCaire has a really good handle on what is required and he seems very confident.

I think Defi will probably go the JLT route given he shares the same ownership as Le Richebourg (Arkle); the former could be run off his feet by the likes of Dynamite Dollars and Le Richebourg in the Arkle. Also, I think either Lostintranslation or Topofthegame will be JLT bound too. Similarly, Kalashnikov if ground is good...ish.

I was very impressed with Mortal's run behind Delta Work last week, he jumped and traveled beautifully throughout and simply got outstayed by a very good stayer, he wasn't a high profile hurdler and like Le Richeburg is being a bit under-estimated...Mortal would be my pick for the JLT at this stage.....hope he runs

Master Dino jumped very straight and on a couple of occasions (at the beginning) rather flamboyant; the rest were good for a novice. The JLT is the right race for him. And his jumping reminded me of Desert Orchid.

He was probably standing at the start wondering where Tunis was.

Can't Catch Me, have you got a quote from Tizzard?

All he did when interviewed after the race was emphasise that the horse was all about staying and the definite inference was that he would go up in trip. I haven't heard anything from him since.

dd. A friend of a friend is good mates with Puppy and hes adamant he's a JLT horse for this year.

Sorry 'Moreorless confirmed' may be slightly exaggerating on my part in fairness... but I would be surprised if he didn't listen to the jockey tbh and he thinks the horse will go there.

Only caught the backend of a Joe Tizzard interview and I am guessing (I didn't hear the horses name) he was confirming Lost In Translation for JLT so it seems your friend was correct.

Out of the Festival. Sustained a hairline fracture at Plumpton.

Gutted

That's hard luck as he looked an exciting jumper. Hopefully he'll start back where he left off next year. At least they've caught it early. It seems that Summerville Boy has run twice this season with a hairline fracture.

It is very easy to say that's ante-post betting. Probably the worst blow so far coming only a short time after (most) punters had backed it. Bookmakers no doubt reeled in a fair amount on those who (quite rightly) expected Samcro to go chasing.

For me that's another one injured following the freak accident to Eldorado Allen and in this race Le Richebourg diverted elsewhere despite probably having the best bit of form on the table.

Commiseration to backers of Master Dino - it's so unfortunate. Hope he comes back next year fully recovered, and a successful 2020 season.

Race in danger of falling apart. Bookmakers have trimmed 'everything' so it hard to actually being supported. Either race Vinndication has to prove it going left handed but how certain are we that he will go up in trip?

As a backer of Le Richebourg in the "Any Race" market, I think the JLT probably looks an easier gig at this stage than taking on Dynamite Dollars in the Arkle.

I've also backed DD (specifically) for the Arkle, but wouldn't want to see him stepping up in trip as I don't think he really gets a strong-run 2.5 miles.

I'm sure the Dublin Festival will help clarify matters, although there will still be several runners for whom ground conditions will play a large part in deciding their ultimate target. If it came up soft then no doubt the 2/2.5 milers will stick to the Arkle and maybe one or two RSA types will re-route to the JLT (I'm also on Delta Work in the "Any Race" market, and if he did that it would be OK with me).

Hadn't heard about Eldorado Allen. That is another of my Cheltenham fancies down. Why do we bet ante post?

That sucks. Lucky i cashed out in time for 5x my money. Cheltenham hasn't even started and i am up 1000's already from using cashout. AP betting is easy and i never lose.


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