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Can't Catch Me
16 Oct 18 21:37
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Always one of my favourite races, and wouldn’t be Cheltenham unless I started a thread on it Grin

Not often you find a 50/1 poke you fancy... but I’ve had a decent bet on Enurgumene.

Mark Howard "When I spoke to Tom Lacey during the summer he was adamant Energumene is a much better horse than Blackbow (was Willie’s number one Bumper horse seemingly and 5th at the Festival) which bodes well for his racing career under rules. The Cheltenham bumper is a realistic target"

Tom Lacey (trainer) "He bolted up in first division p2p at Larkhill.The winning time was much better than the second division race won by Sebastopol. He was brought by Willie Mullins who also purchased Blackbow.. I think Energumene is an absolute weapon"

Jonathan Neesom (p2p expert) "Early season Larkhill form always worth looking at again, he was of two winners for Sophie Lacey (Sebastapol). Despite not jumping well, he quickened up very well. He looks star quality in the making and has since joined Willie Mullins"

50’s gone with Hills but still available with Bet365.

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By:
Can't Catch Me
When: 16 Oct 18 22:25
Forgot to add he’s been bought by Tony Bloom and is by the same sire as Un de Sceaux.
By:
Catch Me ifyoucan
When: 16 Oct 18 23:02
Hollowgraphic (rip) was of course a son of the Ballylinch Stud stallion Beat Hollow, and along with 14 time winner Wicklow Brave (also by Beat Hollow - they both have done really well for the WPM team.

The 4yo Mt. Linster (also by Beat Hollow and 40's for Cheltenham bumper) recently won very impressively at Ballinrobe (9/10 fav) is ONE-for-the-NOTEBOOK - owned and bred by Willie Mullins' wife Jackie, a half-brother to Blackstairmountain, "We've been keeping that name for a good horse," said Patrick Mullins (the mountain overlooks the yard).

So perhaps, as the Closutton brigade unleash another home-bred son of Beat Hollow tomorrow in Punchestown, we should look no further than the Stellar Football Partnership's GOLAZO Devil
By:
Outlaw1
When: 20 Oct 18 19:10
Also read "One jump ahead" good spot , worth a cheeky punt this far out.
By:
wess
When: 27 Oct 18 11:01
Given the choice of a ride at Cheltenham Danny Mullins choice without hesitation was Mt Leinster. To quote him "From what we have seen at home... he is a jet"
By:
equine flew
When: 27 Oct 18 12:53
Romeo Brown runs today at Cheltenham and may make into a Cheltenham contender.

Was weak last year and run a great race against Acey Milan (who went on to finish 4th in the 2018 champion bumper renewal).   Acey Milan had the benefit of experience that day, and over a longer trip and without the greenness there may not be much between then.  New years day is a place that Williams likes to target his best horses, so I think is very well regarded.

Interesting they have decided to keep the horse in bumpers rather than going novice hurdling.   Is entered in the big Newbury bumper in March so may go that route but I think it may be a horse to keep an eye on.
By:
Can't Catch Me
When: 27 Oct 18 18:37
Willie was asked on TV this afternoon for a dark horse for the season... he said the magic word... Enurgumene.
By:
stormey1
When: 27 Oct 18 19:35
I thought he said Asterion Forlonge but my hearing is terrible!!
By:
Can't Catch Me
When: 27 Oct 18 20:08
Tbh Stormey I posted this on another forum and got the same response! I didnt see it myself, a mate who Ive told to back Enurgumene texted me... sounds like he got it wrong!
By:
Smart Predator
When: 27 Oct 18 20:27
He said Asterion Forlonge-y or however you say it. Willies words not mine
By:
Catch Me ifyoucan
When: 29 Oct 18 18:49
https://www.racingpost.com/bloodstock/o-brien-strikes-at-410-000-for-dlauro-at-cheltenham-sale/319717 .

Kirk and Co paid 290k for ASTERION FORLONGE
By:
Catch Me ifyoucan
When: 29 Oct 18 19:00
https://www.facebook.com/rahinstonstud/posts/asterion-forlonge-makes-a-tidy-profit-of-267000-in-just-8months-for-suirview-sta/1852739064767998/ .

Previously sold for only 60K - checkout Rahinston Farm and Stud on Facebook fyi.
By:
Catch Me ifyoucan
When: 15 Nov 18 23:33
Mt. Linster set to run on Sat in P/stown
By:
deepingfox
When: 16 Nov 18 23:20
It’s Mt Leinster vs Malone Road in Ireland on Sunday, joint favs for the Champion Bumper, WPM and Gordy go head to head, and if one of these wins by a few lengths from the other in 2nd, and posts a 135+ RPR, then the winner will probably shorten to as low as 6/1 in places, from 16/1 for the Festival.

If you have a clear fancy for one of them to win in March, now might be the time to put your bet on, if you haven’t already, and take the 16/1.
By:
Catch Me ifyoucan
When: 18 Nov 18 17:19
MALONE ROAD easily dismissed market rival Mt Leinster at Punchestown (5/6 fav under Jamie Codd, stretching clear in the closing stages to score by 8 and a half lengths). Successful on debut for Stuart Crawford in a point-to-point at Loughnamore in March and subsequently changed hands for 325,000 pounds. He won with ease on his first start for Gordon Elliott and owners Cheveley Park Stud at Down Royal earlier this month.
Elliott said: "Jamie said he'll learn plenty as he was half-green through the race and behind the bridle. He's a horse that does everything easy and probably it's his first time being in around horses. I don't know about you, but I thought it was very impressive. In fairness to Patrick (Mullins) he went a good, honest gallop all the way. I'd say he tried to take the speed out of us but I'm really happy with the way he picked up. That'll be it now until Cheltenham."
By:
ImSoLuckyLucky!
When: 18 Nov 18 17:19
Malone road thrashes Lenister
End of thread
This hoss is the real DEAL
if ONLY 10-1 EXISTED I take it

Grin
By:
Ramruma
When: 20 Nov 18 02:03
Malone Road looked like an aeroplane but why is he being put away till March? It is not to preserve his handicap mark! If connections are worried Malone Road is fragile, then suddenly the available 5/1 is not so tempting.
By:
Can't Catch Me
When: 20 Nov 18 12:15
Think its more to do with the ground Ramruna. They dont want to run him on very soft.
By:
sageform
When: 21 Nov 18 12:08
A bit early to take a strong view of the 2019 bumper but just had a look at the list of previous winners of the race and you have to go back to Cchampagne Fever to find a Supreme winner and then Cue Card to find a subsequent festival winner in any race. Many of them disappear without ever troubling the judge over obstacles.
By:
willie the milk
When: 21 Nov 18 18:37
When do trainers run bumpers often, especially if there are Good? Very rarely.
Looked mighty impressive
By:
Catch Me ifyoucan
When: 11 Dec 18 22:31
3.10 SUNDAY at NAVAN - 2m. Bumper 4/7-y-o 12 Entered Future Champions INH Flat Race (Listed) of €27,500.00
By:
Burkey1885
When: 17 Dec 18 20:03

Nov 18, 2018 -- 5:19PM, ImSoLuckyLucky! wrote:


Malone road thrashes LenisterEnd of threadThis hoss is the real DEALif ONLY 10-1 EXISTED I take it


It’s injured m8 want run

By:
irishone
When: 17 Dec 18 21:59
That mare at plumpton weren't stopping today
By:
unclepuncle
When: 18 Dec 18 13:59
^ She was uber impressive wasn’t she and could go under the radar a bit, but I’d expect them to go the mares route at Sandown or Aintree.
By:
irishone
When: 20 Dec 18 20:54
Ishkhara Lady  33/1 with 365
By:
differentdrum
When: 20 Dec 18 21:21
I backed her in that race and for a fair time I thought he could be tracking the wrong ones. Obviously, in the end she was in a different league and it didn't matter. She has probably won a very ordinary race very easily. As above if she backs it up I think she will end up at Aintree. That Sandown race can often turn into a slog.
By:
differentdrum
When: 24 Jan 19 16:32
Blue Sari visually impressive but slowly run race, soft ground, small field and guesswork as to the quality. 10/1 is no carrot whatsoever.
By:
maelduin
When: 29 Jan 19 19:09
Andy Dufresne looked impressive today. Not sure if he'll go to Cheltenham but fingers crossed he does.
By:
differentdrum
When: 30 Jan 19 15:33
Now got three very expensive, unbeaten ex-pointers topping the market. Do they deserve to be so short or is it flavour of the month?

They are all unbeaten but nothing has come out of their races to suggest the form is anything special.

At the current prices I wouldn't dream of backing any of them.

Another division that hasn't really evolved.
By:
duffy
When: 30 Jan 19 16:07
Blue Sari looked a bit special to me, Mullins came on and said it doesn't do a tap at home.
By:
differentdrum
When: 30 Jan 19 16:17
I know I knocked the price (and Bet 365 did subsequently go 20/1 on request) but visually he did appear to have more of a change of gear than the pointers but maybe that isn't the quality you most need to win a Festival Bumper. He isn't bred to be anything special.
By:
differentdrum
When: 02 Feb 19 16:33
Envoi Allen no more than workmanlike today. Had the chasing horse wanted to run in a straight line it might have been very close. Winner doesn't look a superstar in this sphere but in a poor year he might be good enough but the price offers no value.
By:
resner not lesnar
When: 02 Feb 19 16:41
I’m sure I’d read they weren’t going to the bumper with Envoi Allen it has this changed since the injury to Malone Road?
By:
differentdrum
When: 02 Feb 19 16:50
Pretty sure Elliott said he would have to discuss with the owners but he inferred that would be his next start. He did keep saying he was a chaser in the making.
By:
saxon farm
When: 03 Feb 19 01:09
Gordon said immediately after Navan in December, Envoi Allen will not
be going to Cheltenham, and this was after the  Malone Road scare.
A change of tune is fine but please pre-warn the attentive audience.
Anyway Envoi Allen reminds me very much of The I’ll fated No More Heroes.
By:
differentdrum
When: 06 Feb 19 15:15
Blue Sari purchased by JP.

Frank Berry stating the horse has options but what else has Mullins got for a race for which he is normally mob handed?

JP has also got Andy Dufresne but Blue Sari looks a quicker tool.
By:
Ming_the_Merciless
When: 19 Feb 19 16:31
Master Debonair has been shortening up.... now 14's, 16's in places from 20's

His bumper win is outrageous - forgetting his win in the first one he came second in the next, 13 runner race producing 7 winners (30 runners, 6 different horses and 9 placed & 14 unplaced)
Then he toughed it out in a win in his listed race - 10 runners producing future form 7 runs, 3 wins (3 horses), 2 placed, 2 unplaced.

Master Debonair RPR 119! LOL LOL
By:
Swardean
When: 19 Feb 19 18:34
I am pretty sure that GLORY AND FORTUNE is the best bumper horse this side of the Irish Sea,  Very impressive at Cheltenham on new years day.  I was there that day and the horse looked undercooked for that debut.  Already got track form and beat a stream of previous winners that day.  Horse is also a 4to so will get an 8lb pull in the Cheltenham bumper.

Horse is down to run this weekend (although I have heard he will not), if they do decide to run, the horse could shorten up.

Currently a standout 25/1 with William Hills, but more 20/1 and generally 16/1
By:
Ramruma
When: 19 Feb 19 19:52
Glory & Fortune headed for Aintree not Cheltenham according to Maddy Playle on the Postcast, so might be one for the NRNB firms.
By:
differentdrum
When: 19 Feb 19 20:14
I think that was pretty much 'known' ages ago, hence the price.
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