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Buy spectacles for all the Irish stewards?
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Could they not use brexit
To protect u k trained horses With more weight for the irish ? Thats my nap for cheltenham 2019 ! |
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Yep...all they need to do now is win the 3 best races
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Perhaps they could have the irish horses stopping after every circuit to show their passports.
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Anyone praising Willie
needs to count how many of his chasers hit the deck.Guessing somewhere between 10 and 20. Maybe if I am sad enough with some time,i will count them. |
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@buddeliea
Mullins had 10 fallers (including hurdlers but not counting Sandsend who broke his leg). 1 Livelovelaugh 2 Bonbon Au Miel 3 Al Boum Photo 4 Douvan 5 Bacardys 6 Let's Dance 7 Salsaretta 8 Stormy Ireland 9 Bachasson 10 Total Recall |
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and how pylonthepressure never hit the deck is anyones guess!!!
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We need the same carrots,team sky comes to mind!
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Cheers Ram, thats rather a lot,6 chasers and 4 hurdlers.Actually thought it was more chasers to be honest.
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So far as I can see, Mullins had 10 fallers, Elliott and King had 2 each and no-one else had more than one.
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Aye but Mullins had about 300 runners.
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Aye but Mullins had about 300 runners.
Mullins had 62 runners which is twice as many as Elliott (32) or Henderson (34) so it is still disproportionate, though we are dealing with small numbers of fallers so luck plays a large part. You'd want to look at whole seasons before drawing conclusions. |
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Nice bit of deflection lads
The bha sent drug investigators Into mullins and elliots yard One week before the festival Now its over .... its oh dear Look at the fallers Desperate measures needed lads Cant have the english being shown Up by the irish can we lads Sssssshhhh dont mention twickers ! ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
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I,i suspect,like most Cheltenham fanatics,just just want to see good racing and get some winners.
Personally find all this Brits v Irish in horse racing boring to be honest. All about watching these lovely animals perform for our benefit.Where they are trained is not really that important as far as i am concerned. Think you might be better off on the Football Forum. They like all this tribal stuff. |
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It does have an impact though on British racing as a whole. Don't forget that all of the prize money (that comes from UK punters) going back to Ireland deprives GB owners, trainers and stable staff of potential income. The same is true of Wimbledon, Open Golf etc. in that the gate money and TV rights contribute to prize money but with racing it is the levy on betting from GB punters that largely funds the prize money. Sadly GB trainers are very reluctant to try to get much of it back by competing in Ireland or France although there a few notable exceptions.
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Well that's a fair point and worth discussing Sage.
All this us Irish are better than Brits stuff....no thanks. |
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a lot of bollox has crept in over the last few years and the betsh1te cup is top of the list
GB v ireland "the battle" is about as tedious as the punters v the bookies |
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Correction to the score last week btw
IRELAND 24 - ENGLAND 15 |
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I can never understand why UK horses don't run more in Ireland
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more racing over here = easier opportunities
logistically easier as less travelling and (mostly) no need for an overnight stay typically heavier ground in winter |
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use a UK based jockey they wouldn't have the experience of irish courses
use an irish based jockey he won't know your horse |
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agree with sageform, not to mention all the money going home from all the foreign footballers
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as for a lot of bollox creeping in
agree lets start with the tribe that gathers in the marquee with the band behind the best mate stand. pi55ed as newts , never see a race , just like the streets of any english city on a saturday night ..... cheltenham once ouzed class .... now its classless |
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yes irish, that is the case for most racecourses over here on saturdays
chester, donny, haydock etc you name your course p1ssed up eejits, at the races but not there for the races think it was warwick a few weeks ago where there was booing when a long odds on shot in a novice chase got up late to beat a rag who looked like it was going to win no class at all you are spot on there irish |
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Add Sandown to that,and to a lesser extent Kempton.
Just use a day at the races as somewhere different to drink.Doubt most of them see a horse. |
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Big change from when an application for membership of Cheltenham Race Club required 2 current members to endorse your application in writing and there was a 10 year waiting list! About as easy as getting a knighthood in the 1950's.
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regarding runners back and forward across the Irish Sea or English Channel, the Irish seem willing to bring horses to Perth or Ayr where the prize money is only 50% of the Irish money these days but English trainers can't be bothered go the other way for £20 grand. When they do they usually do well.
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When they do they usually do well
evidence of this from the last 5 years? |
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perth pay expenses to irish runners
not sure about ayr in any case, its a short journey on the ferry to ayr for trainers like gordon elliott even his worst horse in training is likely to find a p1ss easy race to win at perth in the summer |
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That's funny. Perth's a pleasant course without being known for the quality of the horses on show, apart from a few decent types blowing the cobwebs off at the September meeting.
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couldnt believe my eyes when cheltenham winner of willies BENNY DES YEUX (Or similar) turnedd up and won at carlisle before last xmas
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tizzard is 3/7 over here this year, ellison had a 123 at galway fry is. 2\5 , longsdon 1\1, mulholland does all right 1\4 , some of them do all right
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varian and charlton were sh1t hot on the flat over here last
year 5/8 as i recall |
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Thank you irishone. Dandy Nicholls and Kevin Ryan have also won a few while Paul Nicholls and Henderson have won some big races at Punchestown.
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For the people who aren't bothered if British National Hunt racing is thriving or not I would say be careful about becoming complacent because before you know it grade 1 tracks like Kempton can become housing estates.
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yeah thats true ..... think when arkle beat mill house it directly led to the demise of hurst park ..... cant stand losing...... lol
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dandy nichols !
did they ever establish if that was suicide ? chucked in his training license andhad a couple of court cases coming up ...... died in his sleep? |