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Native River and Might Bite 2018 Gold Cup
Native River and Might Bite 2018 Gold Cup
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Irish I've been around horses all my life,as far back as I can remember. But I don't see why this matters. If I told you I have 4 horses out in the stables would that make my opinion more valid than yours? Having 3 horses in your back yard means absolutely nothing in the context of Might Bite's Gold Cup performance.
He was upsides Native River, traveling at least as well, on the run to the last with Anibale Fly 8-9 lengths adrift. At the line he was 4.5l behind and only 4l ahead of AF, and the other 2 weren't quickening. |
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around horses all yer life?
so what indicators did you see that told you might bite was all out ? |
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If MB emptied in the King George (3m) he'd have started to back-pedal between the 2nd and last fence at Cheltenham. But he did not,..he was going the better against NR up to and after jumping the last fence - he headed NR for a stride or two up the hill. I think MB was clearly outstayed by NR, and whether it was the atrocious ground to blame for his defeat or not one could not be sure until a similar scenario arose again with the same result on good going against NR.
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to be fair a slowing of pace is usually marking the onset of fatigue
the other you could argue was that the 7 cracks he got werent motivating im in the oppo camp the horse spooked again when he saw the hill needed the lead , hes a head job finished ok not distressed at all none of hendo remarks afterwards referred to lack of stamina he did however mention the mind games |
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Spoke to one of the lads at the open day,and they put it simply down to the ground and trying to beat a thorough stayer in it,and just coming up short. Whether that means he can beat NR on decent ground,only time will tell.
They are not at all concerned about staying the trip on better ground. That will do me and it all makes sense to me after watching the race a few times now. I hope we get decent ground next year,and we can all know for sure. |
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It will be interesting to see how MB runs on Thursday. Soft ground will be in his favour and the trip of 3miles on a sharp track should be his optimum race conditions. If the ground dries up it brings Balko D F into the argument. The more you look into MB form he runs at least 7lbs lower on Good/soft or better.
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love this wrong information, creates bigger prices
balko de flos needs good , ffs ...heard it all now |
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Oh dear....if you honestly think that good ground is what Henderson wants on Thursday then I’m amazed. Good ground then Might Bite is evens if it’s soft then he’s 4/7.
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no hibore, said mb prefers good in the going description , good to soft appears his optimum.
BDF doesnt want dry ground. he won the plate after it peed down before the race , and during it . after the race the stewards changed the going from good to soft , an indication of how much rain had got in. it was the same the night before at cheltenham peeing down on the morning as well, i immediately alerted the cheltenham thread on the greyhound forum. |
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BDF drifted from 4/1 on Sunday before Cheltenham to 16/1 on the Monday due to the ground being against him. He opened at 12/1 and was backed in 8/1 on the day. He won for two reasons 1) UDS raced too freely early on and set up the race for him. 2) BDF was not inconvenienced by the ground as much as De Bromhead feared and all preview evenings said he’d have no chance.
Let’s just look forward to to great race on Thursday which I’m leaning towards MB as we stand. |
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I suppose it comes down to some remarks by willie that the horse was a strong stayer in heavy ground when he had him and the remark by henry that he thought he needed good ground. on top of that for someone who got 14\1 in the best mate enclosure when the horse opened at 12\1 alledgedly i find your reliance upon newspapers and preview meetings misplaced.
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Ideally, I think Hendo would want good to soft for MB, but not heavy or tacky ground as that would hinder MB against NR especially in another Gold Cup. On the other hand, good ground would hinder NR more than MB; good to soft could be neutral for both.
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Irish you should have your own preview night next year. You seem to know more than the jockeys, trainers and owners. Didn’t see you post any threads with any Cheltenham winners either.
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on the greyhound forum there is a cheltenham thread , check it out or checkout the TARGET HORSES thread on this forum.
when itcomes to jockeys and trainers action speaks louder than words |
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Well you did select a lot of horses on there. Good call on Penhill and couple others.
Looks like we both had good Cheltenham’s even though I selected the one max bet at 16/1 on the Antepost thread. |
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Mitebite..... Doesnt stay ??? My r s
HE S A MONSTER !!!! |
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What are you talking about?? Of course he stays that trip. Which doesn't alter the fact that the extra 1 and a half furlongs uphill around Cheltenham stretches his stamina to the limit
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How many times
 staying is relative!!! N/R on soft ground stays the GC trip better...it's even that hard to grasp in all honesty |
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not hard to grasp....harder to type though!
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The Gold Cup form was upheld in the Aintree Bowl with the win of Might Bite; his jumping was near perfect apart from one. Another King George triumph looks very likely especially on an easy surface (with/out Waiting Patiently/Native River) but not heavy or tacky; the 3m trip is just up his street.
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Agree duffy
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Interesting that hendo now confirms might bite is still a head job.
The run in the betfair was not out of character imho , and im quite prepared to fully accept hendos excuses. |
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Might Bite is out to 10.5 here, value or crass? Hendo's charges are running much better now that they've been able to work on grass.
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The price reflects the major concern for the well-being of Might Bite this season. If he doesn’t run well in the King George then I don’t really know where they go with him.
9/1 is a good price for the Gold Cup if you ignore the last run.... |
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Might Bite schooled brilliantly and on track for Kempton, according to Hendo on Luck on Sunday.
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