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Report BigField March 1, 2018 2:45 AM GMT
Saturday 17th March
Report blueton March 1, 2018 8:52 AM GMT
when they cut all there daft odds in half,,not that it matters
Report Arsene March 1, 2018 10:05 AM GMT
Bit embarrassing that they haven't yet.

Guess that with the handicap weights now out, they're waiting for the 'well handicapped' horse to be punted with everyone else before sticking their heads above the parapets
Report Can't Catch Me March 1, 2018 10:22 AM GMT
To be fair, I think its good they havent yet.

There are plenty of NRNB options out there at reduced odds. If you really fancy a couple and are confident on their targets you can get much juicier odds with those firms not yet NRNB.
Report eric_morris March 1, 2018 11:02 AM GMT
Yeah why dont they cut their odds in half in the month or two before the Festival so all the lemmings can take their appalling value in the knowledge they will get their money back if horses who trainers will move heaven and earth to get to the Festival dont actually make it there.

There is no hope for some.
Report eric_morris March 1, 2018 11:18 AM GMT
Incidentally, bookies are killing the interest in the Festival by offering nrnb early. Those like Ekbalco, who dont understand the poor value they are getting, will soon stop betting on these poor prices after plenty of times seeing a bigger price for their horse on the day.

Those who havent had a frontal lobotomy and can see the poor value (obviously another ploy to increase bookie profits by offering less overall value) will stop placing bets earlier than previously as it is akin to selling their house at half price in case the deal falls through and they are quite rightly insulted by it.
Report asquires March 1, 2018 11:41 AM GMT
To be fair - Bet365 and SkyBet have been NRNB AND BOG for a while, so if it drifts on the day then doesn't matter.

Agree about NRNB when there's no BOG to go with it though, may as well wait.
Report eric_morris March 1, 2018 11:49 AM GMT
I wouldnt know as whenever i ring Bet£3.65 for an antepost bet i get the reply 'Sorry sir, i'm afraid you cant have anything on that'. I am also limited to a £100 stake by Slybet.
Report eric_morris March 1, 2018 11:50 AM GMT
Just in case any of you show a profit antepost at any stage these are 2 to avoid for the Festival.
Report Ekbalco March 2, 2018 4:29 PM GMT
Ericers - you mostly talk out of your *rse - and don't dare imply you know my thoughts you pompous pr*ck.

By the way, there is no such thing as 'value' in gambling - it is by it's very nature a valueless pastime - you are merely guessing that your % guess of an outcome is higher than the bookmakers % guess at an outcome.

Now go and do one.
Report eric_morris March 2, 2018 4:44 PM GMT
Nice good luck with that attitude problem.
Report The Sawyer March 2, 2018 4:48 PM GMT
Eric

Didnt Ted Walsh ride something like that to win the Foxhunters?
Report eric_morris March 2, 2018 4:59 PM GMT
You're dang right we could do with some attitude adjusters around here not to mention some soap to wash people's potty mouths out. Really, pompous, I say.
Report eric_morris March 2, 2018 5:01 PM GMT
Cant bear being sworn at by strangers over the internet, however will i recover from this one it cuts deep.
Report eric_morris March 2, 2018 5:20 PM GMT
One thing we do have in common is being big fans of Eric Morecombe .. comedy genius
Report Meat Loaf March 3, 2018 12:06 PM GMT
When did they go NRNB last year?
Report PJay March 3, 2018 8:05 PM GMT
They should be applauded for not going NRNB and keeping stand out prices on most horses. Big thumbs up.
Report saxon farm March 3, 2018 8:10 PM GMT
NRNB with BOG is a gift with no Rule 4 and so many short priced favourites.
Report Deptford March 3, 2018 8:15 PM GMT
It matters not with this rancid outfit, they wont lay more than two bob
Report PJay March 3, 2018 8:17 PM GMT
BOG just guarantees your price against the SP. Not the opening show. Not the more advanced prices in a week or so. Not the exchange prices. You don't get any of the specials on the week of Cheltenham. You don't know what the ground will be. You don't know your opposition. You probably don't even know who's riding your horse.
Report p_r_e_m_i_e_r__f_a_n_t_a_s_y March 3, 2018 8:19 PM GMT
who fkin cares?

tried to back Dandridge for the Grand Annual with them and was offered fack all Laugh

Just like most firms their prices are mythical and do not exist for anybody with an IQ higher than their shoe size
Report Deptford March 3, 2018 8:22 PM GMT
Apart from the media luvvies ^
Report saxon farm March 3, 2018 8:26 PM GMT
So then if for example either  Altior  Buveur Dair, Footpad, Apples Jade or Samcro cannot turn up,  I would suggest the concession is excellent, as Rule 4 is not involved.
Report saxon farm March 3, 2018 8:29 PM GMT
I bet in tenners and scores mainly and only spoilsports have banned me.
Report p_r_e_m_i_e_r__f_a_n_t_a_s_y March 3, 2018 8:30 PM GMT
you've gotta be kidding me? Shocked

your accounts are gold dust then
Report saxon farm March 3, 2018 8:41 PM GMT
My best punting friend who bets in bulls eyes and centuries is restricted by all to peanuts.
I am just an average Joe who is not too greedy.

Mind you I agree that restrictions are now ridiculous.
Report harry callaghan March 3, 2018 9:17 PM GMT
the betfair sportsbook are offering good prices it's just a shame they don't want to take a bet on any of them...an admirable service
Report eric_morris March 4, 2018 1:49 AM GMT
So you are willing to take sht odds in case another horse prepared specifically for the race by a trainer pulling out all the stops, doesnt turn up? Can i be your bookmaker please?


saxon farm 03 Mar 18 20:26

So then if for example either  Altior  Buveur Dair, Footpad, Apples Jade or Samcro cannot turn up,  I would suggest the concession is excellent, as Rule 4 is not involved.
Report saxon farm March 4, 2018 3:57 AM GMT
The advantage of NRNB with BOG now saves any Rule 4 if short priced are withdrawn.
Report eric_morris March 4, 2018 12:26 PM GMT
Yes but you are taking shorter prices shaving your value from the bet. Long term you cant win day of race without inside info. Antepost was a level playing field but punters like yourself who dont understand this are bringing everyone's value down.
Report saxon farm March 4, 2018 12:38 PM GMT
OK Eric, we are never going to agree on this. Nevertheless I wish you a happy and prosperous Cheltenham!
Report eric_morris March 4, 2018 12:41 PM GMT
The reason being the more popular with punters the more likely you are to be given nrnb. It is removing value from antepost. Those taking it are not really antepost punters they want day of race terms but cant have full antepost odds with that. Bookies will squeeze and squeeze the prices year on year if it becomes popular there is nothing surer.
Report eric_morris March 4, 2018 12:41 PM GMT
Good luck saxon farm hope you win loads mate!!
Report Nogoody March 4, 2018 3:00 PM GMT
Were they not n.r.n.b. about a month ago on the 5 big races.
Report blueton March 5, 2018 3:30 PM GMT
bf sportsbook is a joke,,i have never been allowed 1 p on abet not even a football match...all the fancy odds load of bollox,,
Report blueton March 5, 2018 3:30 PM GMT
waste of space on oddschecker thats what they are
Report eric_morris March 5, 2018 6:06 PM GMT
blueton do you arb your bets back onto the exchange or not? Fair question. I am limited to how much I can place but antepost multiples show I am not arbing.
Report blueton March 6, 2018 5:31 AM GMT
fair question,,theyve never allowed me to have a bet not one...maybe because i lay a lot of horses.backed elsewhere usually
Report jimeen March 6, 2018 7:59 AM GMT
In fairness to the Sportsbook, they remove any confusion for punters. Some firms are going all in run or not, others are going non runner no bet, the Sportsbook just goes no bet .
Report blueton March 6, 2018 9:13 AM GMT
lol..thats true
Report eric_morris March 6, 2018 3:46 PM GMT
blueton .. no offence but that does sound like arbing albeit not placing the win stake with Sportsbook but with other bookies. Is PPower a company you have done this with? They will have a record of your activity with them obviously if you arb their prices onto here.
Report blueton March 6, 2018 4:03 PM GMT
eric ive had numerous accounts with them all,,,got runners up and down the land these days,,im 6000 miles away in the sun,,,all part of the game ..used to be easy .not so any more...have a good festival
Report blueton March 6, 2018 4:06 PM GMT
i know what i wanna back early doors,its the betfair bots that do my head in..i totally understand the bookies dont like losing ,,i was one!!!
Report charwell. March 6, 2018 10:09 PM GMT
Filthy arbers.
Report blueton March 7, 2018 4:22 AM GMT
charming words charwell...u aint got a danny
Report blueton March 7, 2018 4:28 AM GMT
this forum 10 years ago was alight with insight,knowledge and shrewd people,,only come on rarely as guys like charming just spout crap about,,but hey its cheltenham week so cheer up charwell u might get lucky...
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