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What do you all make of the Champion Hurdle entries?
What do you all make of the Champion Hurdle entries?
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Fair enough in a race where he did not need to do much.
If this trainer don't have him peaked in March I will be very surprised!! |
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A shockingly bad renewal is on the cards. What a shame for the great race.
Whether there is a reason or not I don't know; probably just one of those phases. But the Gold Cup also looks well below par, as does the Stayers and, unusually, the Queen Mother just could be the best of the lot in terms in quality in depth, which I've never known before. But only if Altior, Douvan, Min, Fox Norton and Politologue turn up, which must be odds against. NH racing can turn around very quickly from occasional slumps but I'd have to say its been a long time since genuinely top class horses have been in such short supply. Maybe this year's novices, headed by Samcro, can usher in a new era; we certainly need one. |
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Last year without Faugheen, and this year's CH are poor renewals and I believe the prize money ought to be reduced accordingly. Without a shadow of doubt this is an extremely poor renewal regardless of the skinny price of the market leader BD. But for Altior being in the same stable as the fav BD similarly Min same stable and ownership of Faugheen, either and possibly both would be targeting this race again, I'd imagine, but they won't.
May Wylie could show some "leadership" quality and dispatch Yorkhill this way or bypass Cheltenham altogether and wait for the Punchestown Festival,...yes, another minor end-of-season races for the benefit of stables/owners but not punters. |
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To suggest the prize money should be reduced is complete and utter BS. Imagine you walk in to work tomorrow and your boss says "Good morning Mr i123 we are reducing your wages this year because all your competition are perceived to be under performing". NJH should be commended for having the stars of the show this year - BVD, Altior and Might Bite. Go Nicky !!!!
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I'd rate BD as a 1* winner of the CH out of 5* even if he wins 2 CH post Mar 2018.
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Reduce prize money??!!!
 Altior and Min are both chasers, so aint gonna run in the Churdle,but even if they did all it would mean is that the QM would diminish in quality.....rob peter to pay paul. Yorkhill aint gonna make any difference the way hes running!! |
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You really dont like BD do you imp.
Anyone would think its his fault with the lack of quality around You seem to be coming out with a load of rubbish at the moment Imp......any reason why? |
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This Cheltenham forum is suffering the same malaise as the top races at the festival, fewer posters about it seems this year....where's STS to ffs, I used to like listening to him telling us that he's backed the field that would still guarantee an around the world holiday
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All those having a pop at Buveur Dair........do you realise his time when winning was exactly the same time as Faugheen's?
And hes a machine.....apparently. Both races on similar ground and both horses ridden out to the line. Just watched both races,and hard to tell which was more impressive to be honest. |
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Yes Duffy,quietest forum for years.
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I think any serious follower of National Hunt Racing esp the CH will no doubt agrees this year's and last renewals of the race were sub-standard as the firm fav has been beaten by two others presently running in another discipline for fairly similar reasons.
I hope Yorkhill would show up here or miss the Festival altogether maybe then my staunch opinion of the fav and race would be vindicated; the CH with its present participants is akin to the Mares Hurdle ie Apple's Jade. |
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Ok,has to be a wind up.
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I'm comparing BD with other CH winners on info and without any prejudice.
I had a bigger bet on BD than Altior in the Supreme but he was outpaced when Altior and Min quickened 2 out. Also, BD just managed to beat Petit Mouchoir in the following race again over 2m race but was impressive when beating My Tent Or Yours in the Aintree Hurdle. As I've said previously my money will be on Yorkhill (even him) or Min should either turn up. |
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So basically its all about his novice season.
Good job we did not judge Sprinter Sacre that way, and i imagine plenty more. We would look stupid. And so what that he got beat by Altior and Min,most horses have that they have run against.They are now the top 2m chasers around. Dont mean he aint a good Champion Hurdler. I am afraid your argument does not stand up. Unless horses are not allowed to improve out of novice season. If you are backing Yorkhill, with your own money,bl00dy good luck!!! |
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Really can't see any way BD loses unless he falls, which I of course hope doesn't happen.
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Well its horse racing BF,anything can happen,but yes on all known form hes probably the biggest certainty of the week,as the odds suggest.
I just hope people keep underestimating him,nice odds early season. |
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Regardless of the outcome of my bets I do not wish to see fallers and injuries arising from the Festival or any horse race.
BD will win the CH in the present field barring any mishap, but he is lucky his two conquerors are running in a different discipline. Unless he's beaten either or both post novice season in any discipline one cannot say that he's improved more than them and a better horse than either or both. Like I said many times before horse racing is mainly opinions, and I'm prepared to back my opinions and judgements with my own money should they meet. |
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Where has anyone said BD is a better horse than Min and/or Altior?,and where has anyone said BD has improved more than them??
As i said before they may simply be better than BD,after all they beat him in the Supreme and are currently the best 2m chasers around. As i said also,none of this makes BD not a good Champion Hurdler. |
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BD is a very short price fav. Next in the betting is Faugheen who is in decline follow by My Tent Or Yours (over-rans), Yorkhill (entered but not a confirmed runner) and Melon (exposed); Apple's Jade follows but another unlikely runner with the rest merely making up the numbers. That's it!
With the above, and the absence of any horse of the potential of either Altior or Min one can confidently concur the present CH participants are pants. But BD will be the most likely winner amongst a poor lot, period. |
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None of that has any bearing on how good BD is.
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Anyway,this is a waste of my time.
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Budd, Duffy, totally agree, like a ghost town compared to what it used to be.
I genuinely believe that the constant rubbish spouted by one poster in particular has scared a good number away. There isn't a topic on the Cheltenham Forum, that he can't pollute with his vague, safe, and completely irrelevant drivel. He is bloody everywhere, and he hasn't made one sensible post in the 2 and a half years he's been here. He's either a very lonely Troll, or someone who just doesn't have a clue, but desperately wants to join in. |
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budd - it took you way too long to realise you were wasting your time on this topic........... :-)
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yes Billy,it did that. Yeh,its a real shame Fab,used to have some good ol chats/debates on here,bit few and far beteween now. |
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Think the BD and Samcro double is a license to print money
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I'd say put Footpad in there too but just can't be as certain because Petit M wasn't given a touch race LTO and still wasn't beaten far - horse clearly not 100% fit for than run either - I mean Footpad will more than likely win, but those doubts are just enough to stop me being 'certain' it'll win.
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*Petit M wasn't given a TOUGH race LTO
and sorry for going offtopic! |
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Would not worry about that......A welcome sidetrack my friend
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I had a bit on the sly bet special BD Footpad and Samcro to win any festival race 6-1 treble.
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how much you get on that Castillo?? Very nice!
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Yeh I looked at that offer,but bottled it,bound to be one that lets me down I thought.
They all do look good things though. Footpad would be the one I would be most concerned about if I had bet. |
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I was allowed a tenner so no great funds either way but figured it gave me an interest in how BD goes in the champion hurdle.
I have played this race by looking for place chances. I think BD could be beaten but it would be down to him being off form not another being better. |
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Seems to be plenty of posts on this thread. The horse racing forum is the one that has lost many posters recently. I had to start a "today" post yesterday as noboby else had done so and that was after the first race had been run!
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crazy quiet on most forums.
used to be hundreds people on racing. |
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crazy quiet on most forums.
used to be hundreds people on racing. |
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Survival of the fittest guys....or daftest!!, not sure which
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All gone purple?
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Castillo a tenners still better than what I've got on (£0) haha, agree with budd that Footpad the least 'certain' to win purely because of the different ground/field size/pace in the Arkle but I still wouldn't back against that one so good luck :D
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Cheer big it will give me an interest so prob stop me betting more on the race.
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